How can a civil war even happen?

[Politruk]

No I don't, I'm one of the few that doesn't formulate an opinion till the facts are out.

You're lying.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Also, reveal to us the previous alt you used that was banned.

It's KingOrfeo/pecksniff revisiting his greatest hits.

 

[coati]

For January 6? I doubt he ever will be.

If Trump loses the election, Jack Smith will be able to continue the J6 case against Trump, and my money is on Jack Smith.

 

[Politruk]

There was a time, not so very long ago, when it appeared entirely possible that South Africa would have a civil war, over issues much more important than anything that now divides Americans.

They avoided that war. They built a functioning multiracial democracy in a country where the idea of democracy had shallow roots.

So much more easily can we avoid it. We have the oldest functioning democracy in the world.

 

[dawnonyou]

Haitians are eating the pets!

It doesn't matter what facts actually are..... MAGA just makes shit up and believes it

People around the world living in socialist and communist countries do eat whatever they can. You would too. If you are hungry a dog or cat can mean the difference between living or dying. The Haitians do it dogs and cats and a lot of other things too. In China they eat bats and all kinds of creepy things. They have no choice. They live under a communist system.

 

[dawnonyou]

If Trump loses the election, Jack Smith will be able to continue the J6 case against Trump, and my money is on Jack Smith.

Hope you had some extra money. LOL

 

[Politruk]

Well, there isn't going to be any civil war in the near future.

 

[ll74]

People around the world living in socialist and communist countries do eat whatever they can. You would too. If you are hungry a dog or cat can mean the difference between living or dying. The Haitians do it dogs and cats and a lot of other things too. In China they eat bats and all kinds of creepy things. They have no choice. They live under a communist system.

Did Haitians eat your pets?

47 will give you a new car on day 1!

Unclear whether Leon will then deport you due to wasteful spending.

 

[AceDesSpades]

The only civil war will be the un-civility of incivility warring against winning...

It is time for the minority to culturally pull a fire alarm.

burning down the house

 

[AceDesSpades]

They can "Go Galt...," young trans...

 

[AceDesSpades]

You knew The Left wasn't going to put up a fight...

strutting​

sound and fury​

Next time my precious, next time..., PRECIOUS!

 

[John_von_Neumann]

With Stephen Miller proposing to mobilize national guard from sympathetic red states to enforce mass immigration policies in sanctuary states, I'm a little less optimistic that civil war is entirely implausible.

 

[Bray123]

The MAGAT insurrectionists brought firearms into the Capitol. They brought explosives into the Capitol.

They fired their guns and set off their explosives inside the Capitol.

They ripped down the flag of the United States of America and raised the Trumptard Flag in its place.

Trump demanded that the Insurrection Act be invoked, to allow him to disregard the election and stay in power.

All this is well known unless your news sources are Newsmax and Alex Jones, in which case you think that Dr. Fauci went to China to invent a virus to infect the Chinese and they allowed it to happen because after many months it would end up killing ignorant folks in Kentucky who believed that de-worming treatment might save them.

 

[Politruk]

In China they eat bats and all kinds of creepy things. They have no choice. They live under a communist system.

They ate the same things before Communism. Shortage of food is not a problem in the PRC at present, and really has not been since the 1950s.

 

[dawnonyou]

They ate the same things before Communism. Shortage of food is not a problem in the PRC at present, and really has not been since the 1950s.

And if we don't believe that just ask the Communist Government News outlets. "Everything is fine here. Nobody is hungry in China. Pay no attention to that many behind the curtain." No garbage problem either. Everyone is happy and doing well.

 

[Politruk]

And if we don't believe that just ask the Communist Government News outlets. "Everything is fine here. Nobody is hungry in China. Pay no attention to that many behind the curtain." No garbage problem either. Everyone is happy and doing well.

The PRC is not isolated from the world like North Korea, and nobody who visits reports any hunger problem.

 

[stxjimmy]

We have the oldest functioning democracy in the world.

Are you really sure about that claim?

 

[Politruk]

Are you really sure about that claim?

Yes. Switzerland does not have the same constitutional continuity.

 

[stxjimmy]

Yes. Switzerland does not have the same constitutional continuity.

New Zealand? Finland?san Marino?
Surely it needs universal suffrage?
https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-80426,00.html

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

One occasionally seems to perceive hints, or threats, that there’s gonna be a civil war if Trump doesn’t win this. Trump himself has said there will be a “bloodbath.”

How?

When the Southern states seceded from the Union, they were still states – functioning political entities with tax revenue, capable of forming and funding a real army, with real professional officers, and hundreds of thousands of enlisted men, and armament at least comparable to what the Yankees had – an army capable of going toe to toe with the United States Army for four years.

Nobody now calling for civil war has that kind of resources. If every private militia club in the United States were to gather in one place and join forces under a unified command, they would not last half an hour in combat against any state’s National Guard. (Probably not even against any local PD, considering that the DoD has been supplying local law enforcement with surplus military-grade hardware since the Clinton years.) And he result would be no different if they were reinforced by the entire membership of the NRA. (Any serious discussion of gun control in the U.S. has to begin with even the NRA admitting that privately owned firearms are POLITICALLY useless and there really are not any "Second Amendment solutions.")

Another problem is this: The present divide in American politics is not between states, it is within states – between traditionalist rural areas and cosmopolitan urban areas, with the suburbs and exurbs as political battlegrounds. A civil war would be a war between the cities and the countryside, with the suburbs and exurbs as military battlegrounds. And the cities and the countryside are economically interdependent. If commerce between them were interrupted by war, both populations would be feeling pain within a week.

And you can forget about guerilla warfare. The American terrain just isn’t suitable – there is nowhere rebels could hide out and still maintain fighting capacity. Unless perhaps they're URBAN guerillas -- but those aren't going to mount any rebellion because Trump loses.

And I really do not believe anything can ever come of what William S. Lind calls "Fourth-generation warfare".

No matter how this election goes, no violent event more serious than a riot is going to result from it, anywhere. And it won't even rise to the level of the January 6 riot.

You can relax now

 

[dawnonyou]

One occasionally seems to perceive hints, or threats, that there’s gonna be a civil war if Trump doesn’t win this. Trump himself has said there will be a “bloodbath.”

How?

When the Southern states seceded from the Union, they were still states – functioning political entities with tax revenue, capable of forming and funding a real army, with real professional officers, and hundreds of thousands of enlisted men, and armament at least comparable to what the Yankees had – an army capable of going toe to toe with the United States Army for four years.

Nobody now calling for civil war has that kind of resources. If every private militia club in the United States were to gather in one place and join forces under a unified command, they would not last half an hour in combat against any state’s National Guard. (Probably not even against any local PD, considering that the DoD has been supplying local law enforcement with surplus military-grade hardware since the Clinton years.) And he result would be no different if they were reinforced by the entire membership of the NRA. (Any serious discussion of gun control in the U.S. has to begin with even the NRA admitting that privately owned firearms are POLITICALLY useless and there really are not any "Second Amendment solutions.")

Another problem is this: The present divide in American politics is not between states, it is within states – between traditionalist rural areas and cosmopolitan urban areas, with the suburbs and exurbs as political battlegrounds. A civil war would be a war between the cities and the countryside, with the suburbs and exurbs as military battlegrounds. And the cities and the countryside are economically interdependent. If commerce between them were interrupted by war, both populations would be feeling pain within a week.

And you can forget about guerilla warfare. The American terrain just isn’t suitable – there is nowhere rebels could hide out and still maintain fighting capacity. Unless perhaps they're URBAN guerillas -- but those aren't going to mount any rebellion because Trump loses.

And I really do not believe anything can ever come of what William S. Lind calls "Fourth-generation warfare".

No matter how this election goes, no violent event more serious than a riot is going to result from it, anywhere. And it won't even rise to the level of the January 6 riot.

I heard Trump make the "blood bath comment." I understood the context of what he was saying. I also knew instantly that the fake news would take the quote out of context to spook people. Most people knew that he was NOT talking about a bloody civil war if he lost but a large minority were fogged out. Even though it has been clarified even in the fake news media the echo chamber still keeps barfing this up. Also, did you

The PRC is not isolated from the world like North Korea, and nobody who visits reports any hunger problem.

The term "nobody" is a superlative. I have talked to people who have been in China. People are NOT free to go anywhere they want. It is a huge countries and there is vast poverty in many areas and horrific living conditions. I have also talked to people that have escaped China and are here seeking asylum. Of course such ones born and raised in China could be lying about how bad it is to keep people in this country from fleeing the USA and sneaking into their country illegally.

 

[Corbie]

If Trump loses the election, Jack Smith will be able to continue the J6 case against Trump, and my money is on Jack Smith.

Smith resigned this week.

 

[ll74]

Smith resigned this week.

Smith did not resign this week.

 

[coati]

Smith resigned this week.

The point I was making had to do with what Smith would do if Trump LOST.

Trump won the election, and I am aware that Smith does not want to prosecute Trump at this point.

If Trump had lost, it is very likely Smith would have secured a conviction. Trump now depends on staying in office to avoid this fate. That partially explains why loyalty is his number one priority in making new cabinet appointments.

 

[dawnonyou]

Smith resigned this week.

Was last seen slithering into some slime on the edge of the swamp. His plot to save "democracy" by silencing the peoples choice did not age well. I wonder what the word origin of "democracy" is?