How do you overcome your upbringing/socially induced perceptions of what is "proper"?

I have a friend who skydives, she gets an almost sexual thrill from the act of hurling herself out of a plane at fuckknowshowmanythousand feet and gliding to the ground under a parachute to land fuckknowswhere. She accepts that every dive is a risk and that each dive may be her last. Weirdo. *shakes head*

I on the other hand get a very sexual thrill out of being Dominant. I try to keep it from being life threatening (though for an accurate assessment you should ask one of the subs I've played with ;) )

I'm a female Domme, black, gay, born in the UK, I break more than a few social norms just by breathing in and out. I have fought my share of demons over the years and have come to the conclusion that I'm never going to be a paragon of Britishness; a white, middle class, heterosexual, happily married, equal partner with 2.4 children and a dog.

To see me at work you would see a conservatively dressed, well spoken, mild mannered, business centre manager. My lifestyle now is nicely middle class.

To see me with my working class family you would see a laid back west indian with an accent to match, respectful of my mother. A loving daughter and sibling.

To see me with a sub you would see a confident Domme, sexy, sassy and in absolute control, getting my rocks off. Even then, the level of play and how rough I am depends entirely upon the submissive. They always hold the aces.

All these people are me. They are all genuine and also, to a degree, all facades. My dominant side has no bearing on the rest of my life, I bully and oppress nobody who doesn't beg for it naked at my feet. I see it as nobody else's business. The subs I play with, similarly, are generally well adjusted, confident people in their every day lives, their other personas.

Everybody does something that other people think is insane, like skydiving. Life would be thoroughly dull without insanity and eccentricity.

Don't forget either, that submissive women used to be the norm. It's in the Bible, the Koran, and so on. It was traditional to view a man's word as law. Your father's until you married and then your husband's. It oppressed many but worked for many too. For some people it still works. I know a muslim lady who married her husband at her parents' direction without meeting him beforehand. She obeys him in all things and by all accounts is happy and (six months on) madly in love. For her, it works.

Be true to yourself and you'll always have a friend who never lies.
 
I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful and candid responses. I have re-read this thread a number of times and take another piece of it with me each time. You all have helped me tremendously. I can't thank you enough.
 
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callinectes said:
I want to thank all of you for your thoughtful and canded responses. I have re-read this thread a number of times and take another piece of it with me each time. You all have helped me tremendously. I can't thank you enough.

Such graciousness as you have shown in this post is to be lauded and commended. :rose:

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
Such graciousness as you have shown in this post is to be lauded and commended. :rose:

Fury :rose:

Why thank you. I can't imagine being anything but gracious and thankful..everyone that posted put a lot of thought into what they had to say and all were most helpful.
 
Unfortunately, I can't help you much with your question. In part because I don't have enough of a similar experience to compare, but also in part because there's a part of me with a cocky smirk on its face, going, "Y'know what? I am a twisted son of a bitch. I am a kinky bastard. I am a degenerate, and I love it... especially because it gets your goat." to any kind of propriety in my upbringing. Then I usually say "Lllllet's get ready to suck it!" and do a few crotch chops. (and the three people who get that will love me for it.)

Another part of the reason is, in some respects, I don't manage to overcome my upbringing at all. I am chivalric and gentlemanly (except when I'm preoccupied or otherwise have my head up my ass) to a frightening extent. Even when I'm dating a woman, I practically need a written, signed, and notarized invitation to cop a feel while kissing, due to that whole pesky, "treat a woman with respect." line I had drilled into me by my father. Makes you wonder how I ever tied a girl up or spanked her ass, doesn't it? :D
 
onyxvixen said:
I have a friend who skydives, she gets an almost sexual thrill from the act of hurling herself out of a plane at fuckknowshowmanythousand feet and gliding to the ground under a parachute to land fuckknowswhere. She accepts that every dive is a risk and that each dive may be her last. Weirdo. *shakes head*

I on the other hand get a very sexual thrill out of being Dominant. I try to keep it from being life threatening (though for an accurate assessment you should ask one of the subs I've played with ;) )

I'm a female Domme, black, gay, born in the UK, I break more than a few social norms just by breathing in and out. I have fought my share of demons over the years and have come to the conclusion that I'm never going to be a paragon of Britishness; a white, middle class, heterosexual, happily married, equal partner with 2.4 children and a dog.

To see me at work you would see a conservatively dressed, well spoken, mild mannered, business centre manager. My lifestyle now is nicely middle class.

To see me with my working class family you would see a laid back west indian with an accent to match, respectful of my mother. A loving daughter and sibling.

To see me with a sub you would see a confident Domme, sexy, sassy and in absolute control, getting my rocks off. Even then, the level of play and how rough I am depends entirely upon the submissive. They always hold the aces.

All these people are me. They are all genuine and also, to a degree, all facades. My dominant side has no bearing on the rest of my life, I bully and oppress nobody who doesn't beg for it naked at my feet. I see it as nobody else's business. The subs I play with, similarly, are generally well adjusted, confident people in their every day lives, their other personas.

Everybody does something that other people think is insane, like skydiving. Life would be thoroughly dull without insanity and eccentricity.

Don't forget either, that submissive women used to be the norm. It's in the Bible, the Koran, and so on. It was traditional to view a man's word as law. Your father's until you married and then your husband's. It oppressed many but worked for many too. For some people it still works. I know a muslim lady who married her husband at her parents' direction without meeting him beforehand. She obeys him in all things and by all accounts is happy and (six months on) madly in love. For her, it works.

Be true to yourself and you'll always have a friend who never lies.

Fabulous post Onyx. :heart:
 
I'm of the breed that doesn't overcome it.


I don't change my beliefs I recognize them and I recognize that I don't always follow them.

Nothing for me to overcome. When I do it is when I overcome it.
 
Accept the past

Your upbriinging is in the past, and there is really nothing that can be done about it. Trying to "overcome" it means you may be still be locked in the past and not moving forward. When you embrace the past and accept it, you are free to move on.


You can develop your own moral code and live by it. But it is always wise to move out of your parents house first if they are paying the bills. LOL

Eb
 
Ebonyfire said:
Your upbriinging is in the past, and there is really nothing that can be done about it. Trying to "overcome" it means you may be still be locked in the past and not moving forward. When you embrace the past and accept it, you are free to move on.


You can develop your own moral code and live by it. But it is always wise to move out of your parents house first if they are paying the bills. LOL

Eb

Good points Ebonyfire. Thank you. The living with parents thing isn't an issue, I haven't lived with them for more years than I care to count. ;)
 
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