CandiCame
Rocket Grunt
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Genderfluid and nonbinary people get married and have monogamous relationships. That statement makes no sense. Gender has nothing to do with sex. I have no idea where you're getting that. Like this is just... factually incorrect.
And polyamorous people can be monogamous- it's out of respect for the partner. Whether your polyamorous or monogamous has nothing to do with your sexual orientation or gender identity. The most common type of person to report polyamorous relationship are heterosexual cisgendered men, but that's likely just because that's the type of person who is most socially accepted to report that. People tend to be more willing to co-wife because there's a lot of socio-historical religious background for that sort of thing, whereas people of other orientations and genders have fewer socially acceptable outlets. I forsee that demographic growing in the future.
Either way, there's nothing about gender identity or type of relationship that implies or is in any way related to sexual promiscuity. People of any gender, with any orientation, absolutely enter into committed relationships. There's literally no reason to believe this isn't the case.
It may be that you're reading some of the research on millennials and Gen Z electing not to get married or have children. We don't want to get married not because we want to indiscriminately fuck- we actually have less sex outside committed relationships than any generation in the past half a century. It's because there's a fundamental issue with the socio-econoimic institution of marriage, which was founded as a way to subordinate women and create a social structure of the nuclear family, as opposed to the extended family, that no longer fits our needs. It's not a sex thing, it's that the economy is shit and we can't afford to do that, and honestly wouldn't if we could because the things you lose don't beat the things you gain. People do still get married, but as a group it's getting less popular, and that's the only thing I can think of that may have confused you. We tend to cohabitate rather than getting married, for financial reasons.
But as far as the popularity of anon casual sex, those are decreasing. People have less sex in general, but the sex we have is better.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-016-0798-z
You're just... wrong, like factually incorrect about every single thing you said.
I don't know why you're so hateful, but like... learn what words mean and how the world actually is before you start throwing around nonsense at people.
There is, by the way, absolutely nothing wrong with the lifestyle you're describing. It's just not what the words you're using mean.
Also these terms aren't new by any stretch of the imagination. Every culture since the beginning of time has understood the concepts that I'm explaining to you. Gender as a CONCEPT wasn't even a thing until around the 19th century, because everyone was considered genderfluid. The history of why we made the mistake of thinking there was a binary is interesting and complex, but the binary is what's new, not the spectrum. The spectrum is what we used for most of human history, and it happened to line up with what science says was actually correct- which is decently rare. A lot of the psychology we get from the ancients is complete bullshit. Socrates lived in a culture that didn't know germs were a thing, but we get the word "androgyny" from them, so like. Life is weird sometimes. Androgyny, btw, at the time was similar to other phrases like two spirit that just meant someone who fit more in the middle of the spectrum and didn't want to use masculine or feminine pronouns. So if you were talking about someone you would use it as a third gender, "that person is feminine, that one is masculine, that one is androgynous".
We began to see the rise in a gender binary- that is that there existed only two boxes and you had to fit into one of them- about the time that we started to see patralinial property laws, around the 19th century. Under patralinial laws, we needed gender identity to match biological sex, because we needed to be able to trace who people's biological fathers were, and that meant that people identified as women by their reproductive ability needed to be watched, because we needed to know who they fucked every single time to determine who fathered their children, because we were now inheriting property based on who the father was. This created a whole mess of problems and my culture never really bought into it, but I'm so, so glad that we went back to gender-neutral inheritance law before I came into the world because that system was a clusterfuck. But it is the reason we have a gender binary. The WHOLE reason. It really is that simple. There's nothing biological, people just wanted to trace who the baby-daddy was, so they needed to build a whole social construct around controlling who could identify as what gender.
Even then though, there were three. We've only had the two-gender system since the 1950s.
The genders under the one that went from the early 19th century to the 1950s were, "People who can get pregnant" so women, "People who can impregnate" so men, and "people who can't do either and also are probably magic". So we get a lot of people put into this third category that we would, even under the binary system that people like you are arguing for today, be easier or more difficult to classify. Also they did like, genuinely believe that people outside those men/women categories were magic and that's why witches were a thing. Because you grew out of being a woman when you hit menopause. You're a crone now, and you're magic. So you could still move around from category to category, it just had to be some external thing that did it to you. Eunuchs were in the third category as well, which is why they were allowed into 'no men allowed' spaces, and again, thought to be magic. It wasn't just genderfluid people in this category.
Just... god you have no idea what the hell you're talking about and it's weird that someone could be that wrong that consistently, in a way that can actually hurt people.
Let people live, Jesus Christ.
