How many subs are too many????

[libbyboy]

Generally, nothing. However, if one was new to the lifestyle as a Dom/me I would think it more important to hone their skills with one or perhaps two before taking on an entire stable full. Then again, if one is only talking of ropes, knots, floggings, canings, etc...perhaps the level of skill is not as vital. *shrugs*

You are right the D/S route has no place for greed

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

I don't want to be spreading myself to thin.

Here's the issue. And only you and your sub army can answer it. If everyone's happy, everyone's happy.

 

[Loverskitten]

Generally, nothing. However, if one was new to the lifestyle as a Dom/me I would think it more important to hone their skills with one or perhaps two before taking on an entire stable full. Then again, if one is only talking of ropes, knots, floggings, canings, etc...perhaps the level of skill is not as vital. *shrugs*

I agree with this.
However, she's talking online subs. How does one flog or cane online? I'm confused

 

[dreamykitten2]

To answer your question

I agree with this.
However, she's talking online subs. How does one flog or cane online? I'm confused

You don't! Although I'm sure someone creative could come up with a way they could themselves. But I am not into pain so to each his own. Torment yes but with a different set of tools.

 

[DVS]

Generally, nothing. However, if one was new to the lifestyle as a Dom/me I would think it more important to hone their skills with one or perhaps two before taking on an entire stable full. Then again, if one is only talking of ropes, knots, floggings, canings, etc...perhaps the level of skill is not as vital. *shrugs*

Most of this is said in jest, but there is always some truth in humor.
If someone was new to the lifestyle, I really don't know if I'd like to be on the business end of a flogger or cane wielded from their hand. While you might argue that practice makes perfect, being one of the first victims in that practice session could be dangerous.

Honing skills with target practice, I guess a little variation could be beneficial. But, care should be taken, when the target is human. Now, I'm talking real time, face to face, skin to skin play. The only thing that might become bruised and bloody in an online session is one's typing fingers. And in some cases, that's just one's index fingers.

Back to the subject of greed, I was never brought up to be greedy. Greed is selfish and while it might be fun to have more than one sub, just how many subs does it take to satisfy someone? And from a male's point of view, just how much fun can one erect cock handle before it's too weak to continue? It's a muscle, but it isn't like other muscles where more exercise makes it stronger.

I've never been that much of a drinker and for me, subs are somewhat like drinking beer. After one, I'm just getting started. After two, I've really lost my inhibitions. After three, I'm still going strong, but I'm not quite sure where I'm going. After four, my cock is spending more time in the bathroom than in the sub. After five, I might still be the life of the party, but my cock has already gone to bed. If I ever make it to six, swinging a flogger is no longer possible, because I'm just trying to keep the room from spinning.

OK, I seriously doubt I'd ever want more than a couple of subs. That's selfish enough for me. I've been involved in threesomes before so I know the responsibility of satisfying multiples. After a while, just remembering names would be an issue, even if you used sub 1, sub 2, etc. I don't think sub 1 would like being called sub 2 by mistake.

Multiples would be much easier online, though. It would be kind of like playing a video game. Angry Birds, anyone?

 

[DVS]

I wonder...how much satisfaction does one need before it becomes greed?

I agree with you DVS. Personally, I'm a one sub guy. I have my sub and I give her all of my attention. I couldn't even see myself taking more than one sub on at a time.

Agreed

You are right the D/S route has no place for greed

I see a mild form of play on words, here, but it's nice we all agree on greed.

And what the fuck is wrong with greed?

Sorry, but you didn't agree. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[Loverskitten]

Torment yes but with a different set of tools.

I suppose you could Cc: the torment
Meh, still don't get the online crap, never will I guess.

 

[the captians wench]

I suppose you could Cc: the torment
Meh, still don't get the online crap, never will I guess.

I promise I am not going to get into yet another online vs flesh life debate again, but I see an open here to maybe give you a bit better glimpse. (even though we've established that I'm not an "online" person but rather a LD person who communicates mostly online)

With out pain play this makes a lot more sense. It's all mental stimulation. Ever read a story or watched a video that made you so close to orgasm you could feel the muscles starting to twitch? Same deal.

Of course I'm not one who really "gets" the thought of "ownership" with out there being a desire to move from online into the flesh world, but on this level I can relate.

 

[Loverskitten]

I promise I am not going to get into yet another online vs flesh life debate again, but I see an open here to maybe give you a bit better glimpse. (even though we've established that I'm not an "online" person but rather a LD person who communicates mostly online)

With out pain play this makes a lot more sense. It's all mental stimulation. Ever read a story or watched a video that made you so close to orgasm you could feel the muscles starting to twitch? Same deal.

Of course I'm not one who really "gets" the thought of "ownership" with out there being a desire to move from online into the flesh world, but on this level I can relate.

Nooooooooo not that argument again. I shouldn't have said "I guess"
Actually the only stories that brought me close were written by my Lover (ex) and I knew I'd see him soon. *sigh*

Some stories have made me wet, yes, but he'd have me in tears and yes, twitching. They were mostly about things he planned to do, wanted to do, or how he felt when we had done things.

 

[DVS]

I promise I am not going to get into yet another online vs flesh life debate again, but I see an open here to maybe give you a bit better glimpse. (even though we've established that I'm not an "online" person but rather a LD person who communicates mostly online)

With out pain play this makes a lot more sense. It's all mental stimulation. Ever read a story or watched a video that made you so close to orgasm you could feel the muscles starting to twitch? Same deal.

Of course I'm not one who really "gets" the thought of "ownership" with out there being a desire to move from online into the flesh world, but on this level I can relate.

I can understand online, when it's totally mental, or mostly mental stimulation. And I do understand that, with limitations, online might be all that some have going for them. What I don't understand, though, is anyone preferring online over skin to skin.

Now, after I've said that, I'm only assuming there are some who do prefer online. Maybe I'm wrong, but it is much easier because you're not limited to local partners and you can pretty much be anybody you want. Well, that last part is meant only for posers and fakes.

And while I can see some benefits of online relationships, I don't see the benefit of it taking the place of a skin to skin, if that is possible. For me, I do understand that online is a good second choice, when you have no other means. But after I've had the real deal, online seems so empty to me, unless it's only until you can get together for real. In that case, I totally understand. You see...my electoplay stuff doesn't work so well, online. I'd need a very long extension cord. And right now, I have neither online nor skin to skin. But if I had the chance for online, I don't think I'd enjoy it. Maybe I've been spoiled...or I'm greedy? (stole that from another post).

 

[dreamykitten2]

Well I don't think so

Sounds like a luxury problem, like having too many Ferrarris or something.

But everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course!

 

[His_pet_slut]

You are right the D/S route has no place for greed

Oh, I didn't say there was no place at all in D/s for greed. My Master would quickly tell you that I am often a greedy little slut with huge appetites. However, I do think that as DVS alluded, moderation is often the better part of valor.

I agree with this.
However, she's talking online subs. How does one flog or cane online? I'm confused

I would suppose one does not and if the relationships will remain strictly online, it is a moot point. Still, even the toying with the control of emotions is something that takes finesse, no?

 

[His_pet_slut]

Most of this is said in jest, but there is always some truth in humor.
If someone was new to the lifestyle, I really don't know if I'd like to be on the business end of a flogger or cane wielded from their hand. While you might argue that practice makes perfect, being one of the first victims in that practice session could be dangerous.

Honing skills with target practice, I guess a little variation could be beneficial. But, care should be taken, when the target is human. Now, I'm talking real time, face to face, skin to skin play. The only thing that might become bruised and bloody in an online session is one's typing fingers. And in some cases, that's just one's index fingers.

Back to the subject of greed, I was never brought up to be greedy. Greed is selfish and while it might be fun to have more than one sub, just how many subs does it take to satisfy someone? And from a male's point of view, just how much fun can one erect cock handle before it's too weak to continue? It's a muscle, but it isn't like other muscles where more exercise makes it stronger.

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Absolutely! I knew I could trust the first Dom that flogged me when he sat me down to talk about my tolerances, how readily I bruised, etc and then explained that he did not own a flogger, crop, cane, paddle, etc that had not been used on himself. He further explained that until he had the opportunity to see how my flesh reacted to paddling, pinches, etc from his hands, he would not use anything else on me. This meant not just how things appeared that evening, but what the lingering results were.

 

[the captians wench]

Nooooooooo not that argument again. I shouldn't have said "I guess"
Actually the only stories that brought me close were written by my Lover (ex) and I knew I'd see him soon. *sigh*

Some stories have made me wet, yes, but he'd have me in tears and yes, twitching. They were mostly about things he planned to do, wanted to do, or how he felt when we had done things.

Like I said, I'm not going to get into the argument again, I was simply trying to see if I could open your mind. Instead I've learned something about you that really helps me understand why you "don't get it". I count that as a good thing.

This next bit is pure congecture: I realize that you have said in the past that you need to know that there is intentions of things happening in the flesh. From your past posts and this one here even more so, it's clear to me now that this needs to feel like a probability to you, not just a posability. I'm curious, do you fantasize about famous people or characters in books?

You don't have to answer that. I've been watching a lot of "Bones" lately and it has me even more anylitical than normal. Not to mention looking into that psych course.

I can understand online, when it's totally mental, or mostly mental stimulation. And I do understand that, with limitations, online might be all that some have going for them. What I don't understand, though, is anyone preferring online over skin to skin.

Now, after I've said that, I'm only assuming there are some who do prefer online. Maybe I'm wrong, but it is much easier because you're not limited to local partners and you can pretty much be anybody you want. Well, that last part is meant only for posers and fakes.

Yup there are. My ex husband was one for a little while. Of course it could have just been that he prefered online to sex with me.

And while I can see some benefits of online relationships, I don't see the benefit of it taking the place of a skin to skin, if that is possible. For me, I do understand that online is a good second choice, when you have no other means. But after I've had the real deal, online seems so empty to me, unless it's only until you can get together for real. In that case, I totally understand. You see...my electoplay stuff doesn't work so well, online. I'd need a very long extension cord. And right now, I have neither online nor skin to skin. But if I had the chance for online, I don't think I'd enjoy it. Maybe I've been spoiled...or I'm greedy? (stole that from another post).

For the record, I agree. Online should not take the place of flesh world relationships. It surely doesn't make you feel less lonely in the long run. I'm one of those socially awkward people who will stand in a crowd and want to participate, but just can't seem to figure out how to go about that. Other than Jounar i don't play online or on the phone even anymore. Mostly because it just isn't fullfilling. Random flesh sex fills a need that random internet sex just can't for me anymore. And with my luck lately, I've given up the random flesh sex as well. Dunno what i'd do with out really open friends.

Absolutely! I knew I could trust the first Dom that flogged me when he sat me down to talk about my tolerances, how readily I bruised, etc and then explained that he did not own a flogger, crop, cane, paddle, etc that had not been used on himself. He further explained that until he had the opportunity to see how my flesh reacted to paddling, pinches, etc from his hands, he would not use anything else on me. This meant not just how things appeared that evening, but what the lingering results were.

Yeah I was totally nieve and jumped in head first. But I didn't read books, or search internet porn, or anything like that. I walked into a shop that was willing to sell my costumes, made friends, got curious, and had my eyes opened. My very first BDSM experience was with knife play. I've never met anyone who took that much time and consideration before play. It's always just been a "let's see" kind of thing. Of course they could have been thinking about all of this and just not telling me as I really didn't care or feel a need to know.

 

[Loverskitten]

Like I said, I'm not going to get into the argument again, I was simply trying to see if I could open your mind. Instead I've learned something about you that really helps me understand why you "don't get it". I count that as a good thing.

This next bit is pure congecture: I realize that you have said in the past that you need to know that there is intentions of things happening in the flesh. From your past posts and this one here even more so, it's clear to me now that this needs to feel like a probability to you, not just a posability. I'm curious, do you fantasize about famous people or characters in books?

You don't have to answer that. I've been watching a lot of "Bones" lately and it has me even more anylitical than normal. Not to mention looking into that psych course.

Ok analyze me! Maybe I'll learn something, I do think I'm odd (but aren't we all a bit).
No I don't fantasize about characters or famous people. Sure I think Johnny Depp is crazy hot and Alec Baldwin would make the perfect Dom. But do I ever think about them during sex, no. Nor do I daydream about having sex with them.

In fact, in another thread, I mentioned that I sometime orgasm in my sleep. I also explained that the person (it is always a different person too) I am with, in my dreams, is someone I don't know in real life. Maybe I'm weird.
I do wonder if someday I'll run into one of these strangers in real life :O

 

[abella117]

I presume your an online Dom to have a 'stable' of subs. In rl I would say any more then one is too many, because you truly wouldn't be able to satisfy them all, or may be im such a greedy sub slut

 

[Kurokami]

I presume your an online Dom to have a 'stable' of subs. In rl I would say any more then one is too many, because you truly wouldn't be able to satisfy them all, or may be im such a greedy sub slut

Y'know, you could just do what I do: have my two subs satisfy each other...

While I supervise, of course. Just to make sure they're doing it right

 

[abella117]

Y'know, you could just do what I do: have my two subs satisfy each other...

While I supervise, of course. Just to make sure they're doing it right

Been there done that n love it, only it was some1 else sub I was helping to satisfy

I dont mind my husband having sex with other females, we share, but if he had another sub, he would soon be a dickless Dom

 

[the captians wench]

Ok analyze me! Maybe I'll learn something, I do think I'm odd (but aren't we all a bit).
No I don't fantasize about characters or famous people. Sure I think Johnny Depp is crazy hot and Alec Baldwin would make the perfect Dom. But do I ever think about them during sex, no. Nor do I daydream about having sex with them.

In fact, in another thread, I mentioned that I sometime orgasm in my sleep. I also explained that the person (it is always a different person too) I am with, in my dreams, is someone I don't know in real life. Maybe I'm weird.
I do wonder if someday I'll run into one of these strangers in real life :O

I don't think you're odd or weird, just different. Different is good.

Actually, until i was married, I never fantasized either. I just never felt the need to. Of course I also didn't feel the need to masturbate. *shrug*

I find this all very interesting. Did you play make-believe as a child, or did you stick to things that were more tangable like blocks?

 

[Loverskitten]

I don't think you're odd or weird, just different. Different is good.

Actually, until i was married, I never fantasized either. I just never felt the need to. Of course I also didn't feel the need to masturbate. *shrug*

I find this all very interesting. Did you play make-believe as a child, or did you stick to things that were more tangable like blocks?

Haha, yep sure, I still do play make-believe.... see avatar.
I was a stuffed animal girl, turned real animal girl. Not big into blocks.

As far as the fantasizing about celebrities goes, it just seems silly. I'm also not a very star-struck person.

 

[troubledone]

I feel if the relationship is to be a serious one one Sub is enough

 

[the captians wench]

Haha, yep sure, I still do play make-believe.... see avatar.
I was a stuffed animal girl, turned real animal girl. Not big into blocks.

As far as the fantasizing about celebrities goes, it just seems silly. I'm also not a very star-struck person.

Okay, BUT, do you play animal girl with out a costume? Or do you need a costume to make you feel like that persona?

Thank you for indulging me, this has been most fasinating.

I feel if the relationship is to be a serious one one Sub is enough

I disagree.

 

[Loverskitten]

Okay, BUT, do you play animal girl with out a costume? Or do you need a costume to make you feel like that persona?

Thank you for indulging me, this has been most fasinating.

Ummm not quite sure what you're asking, like with a partner during petplay or everyday?
My ex bought me some ears, bells, collar, ect. Which I loved to wear for him, but did I NEED them to be cat-like in the bedroom? No, it's just how I am.
Would I RATHER wear my kitty things all the time, yes. In fact, I wear my ears during all October at work because I can get away with not looking crazy. I also go to clubs/events that have theme nights and I LOVE to dress up (not always kitty like either)

I also will send flirty kitten-like texts. But do I run around acting like a kitty in everyday situations... ummm no.



Figured me out yet? Hehehe rawr!

 

[Loverskitten]

I feel if the relationship is to be a serious one one Sub is enough

See I agree with this. However I am monogamous and do understand some people are into poly relationships, it's just not for me.
I do think it wrong to have many partners but not be honest with all involved.

 

[dreamykitten2]

Agreed

See I agree with this. However I am monogamous and do understand some people are into poly relationships, it's just not for me.
I do think it wrong to have many partners but not be honest with all involved.

All subs know about the others! And are fine as long as they get my attention when needed. So far it's fine and no problems.