How straying too far from reality is ruining your stories

[gunhilltrain]

You can explore the site history via Wayback: https://web.archive.org/web/20220720150751/https://www.literotica.com/stories/

First capture is on Oct 13 1999. At that time the categories were:

Fetish - Bondage, feet, panty, s&m, and other kinks and kinky things...
Erotic Couplings - Wild one-on-one consensual sex...
Erotic Poetry - Sensually sexual verse...
Exhibitionist & Voyeur - Watching, and being watched...
Group Sex - Orgies, swingers, and others...
Illustrated Stories - Stories with erotic photos and art...
Incest - Keeping it in the family...
Non Consent - What part of "no" didn't you understand?
Non Human - Aliens, androids, and more...
Romance - Candlelight, wine, and a soft kiss...
Same Sex - Girls who like girls, and boys who like boys...
Toys - Battery-operated fruits & vegetables, etc...

AFAICT the last two categories to be added were Erotic Horror & Letters and Transcripts, both some time in 2003, and the "Extreme" category disappeared around the same time. In the nineteen years since then, no new/removed categories that I can see, though a couple got renamed ("Text with Audio" -> "Audio", "Celebrities" -> "Celebrities & Fan Fiction") and some of the category descriptions have changed.

"Extreme" is kind of intriguing yet vague. Not a lot of innovation in this particular area.

 

[Bramblethorn]

"Extreme" is kind of intriguing yet vague. Not a lot of innovation in this particular area.

As far as I know, it was mostly the kind of non-consent that the site no longer allows. Even when it was up there, the category link directed to a separate site.

 

[gunhilltrain]

As far as I know, it was mostly the kind of non-consent that the site no longer allows. Even when it was up there, the category link directed to a separate site.

You mean the stories were actually posted on that site? The rules here are so arbitrary but, it's their site.

 

[lovecraft68]

You mean the stories were actually posted on that site? The rules here are so arbitrary but, it's their site.

The extreme stories/category were on a sister site rather than lit proper. When they decided to merge it, most stories didn't make the cut here. However, even now you can still find a few lurking that slipped through and no one ever reported. That's what I've heard from people that have been here longer than I have

 

[lovecraft68]

You can explore the site history via Wayback: https://web.archive.org/web/20220720150751/https://www.literotica.com/stories/

First capture is on Oct 13 1999. At that time the categories were:

Fetish - Bondage, feet, panty, s&m, and other kinks and kinky things...
Erotic Couplings - Wild one-on-one consensual sex...
Erotic Poetry - Sensually sexual verse...
Exhibitionist & Voyeur - Watching, and being watched...
Group Sex - Orgies, swingers, and others...
Illustrated Stories - Stories with erotic photos and art...
Incest - Keeping it in the family...
Non Consent - What part of "no" didn't you understand?
Non Human - Aliens, androids, and more...
Romance - Candlelight, wine, and a soft kiss...
Same Sex - Girls who like girls, and boys who like boys...
Toys - Battery-operated fruits & vegetables, etc...

AFAICT the last two categories to be added were Erotic Horror & Letters and Transcripts, both some time in 2003, and the "Extreme" category disappeared around the same time. In the nineteen years since then, no new/removed categories that I can see, though a couple got renamed ("Text with Audio" -> "Audio", "Celebrities" -> "Celebrities & Fan Fiction") and some of the category descriptions have changed.

I wonder when LW came along? There's quite a few more not on the list as well. How To, Mature etc...

Seems crazy nothing has been added in so long. Meanwhile categories like Mind Control and Anal don't seem to really warrant there own.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I wonder when LW came along? There's quite a few more not on the list as well. How To, Mature etc...

Seems crazy nothing has been added in so long. Meanwhile categories like Mind Control and Anal don't seem to really warrant there own.

I guess you also mean how LW became the "No Law West of the Pecos" place it is now. I don't know if anybody (except Laurel) remembers that, but I suspect it grew that way as like-minded individuals found each other. Still no "Loving Husbands."

Sites have different quirks and some grow slowly over time. There have been some upgrades on here - not always great ones. A law of inertia takes over, and a feeling of "it's good enough" appears. You can see that in organizations much larger than erotic literature sites.

 

[lovecraft68]

I guess you also mean how LW became the "No Law West of the Pecos" place it is now. I don't know if anybody (except Laurel) remembers that, but I suspect it grew that way as like-minded individuals found each other. Still no "Loving Husbands."

Sites have different quirks and some grow slowly over time. There have been some upgrades on here - not always great ones. A law of inertia takes over, and a feeling of "it's good enough" appears. You can see that in organizations much larger than erotic literature sites.

LW used to be a decent category with stories written for true fans of the kink and not the haters. The cucks were supportive, more stag stories, even some romances, and everything done in the spirit of the hot wife fantasy. How/when it started to shift I have no idea, but let's face it, everything in this society is now filled with hate spewing, and this category which by its existence fuels the angst of the impotent knuckledragger really accelerated with how fast it turned into a cesspool of malice towards women and any man who is fine with what/who his wife does.

As for a Loving Husbands category?

Remember the old line "How come there's Mother's day and Father's day but no kids day" and the reply was "Because every day is kid's day?"

LW is based on wives who step out, do as they please, etc... and look at the reaction it gets meanwhile

Cheating and doing as they please is every day for men, and always acceptable. We still very much live in a Man's world society except for the fact there are few actual men in it.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I wonder when LW came along? There's quite a few more not on the list as well. How To, Mature etc...

Seems crazy nothing has been added in so long. Meanwhile categories like Mind Control and Anal don't seem to really warrant there own.

Looks like LW was somewhere between December 1999 and February 2000.

 

[Comentarista82]

I've been lurking and reading for several months now, and just created a profile this week. I decided that a PSA would be beneficial to the authors, so here it is.

The problem isn't writing about stuff that's fantasy, and likely wouldn't happen in real life (incest/taboo category largely falls into this category), what ruins stories is when writers stray too far away from human nature. For example, the cuckold stories. While there is a minority of people out there that get off on watching their spouse having sex with someone else, the vast majority of people DON'T. The problem that I've seen over and over again is where authors have an example of the latter (NOT okay with being cucked) that make the cuck tolerate it, in some cases for YEARS. Sorry, but if someone isn't okay with being cucked, they're NOT going to put up with it, PERIOD, especially for years on end. THIS is how you are ruining your story.

The other category that I would like to point out is the "too stupid or stubborn" category. Yes, there are people that ARE pretty stupid and stubborn out there, but even they will eventually come to realize that their marriage is over because they were caught cheating or being a serial homewrecker and going after married person after married person. NO ONE is that stupid.

Yes, these stories are fiction, and yes we all enjoy fantasy and escapism, but don't stray too far from how most reasonable people would react to a situation. It's okay to stray SOME, but when you take it too far it ruins your story EVERY TIME.

Problem is human nature encompasses pretty much the best, the most extreme of the worst and degrees in between: if a human can imagine it and has the power to carry it out, the human will do it if one chooses; people can vary from extremely weak characters, to the opposite side and in between (e.g., some females might only tolerate one unjust slap, slap the tar out of the guy and leave never to return while others might tolerate horrible abuse for years before they leave).

My only problem with the examples you mention would be if somehow the author paints himself into a corner by saying "only x% of this kind of people do this," when you can look it up and prove it's wrong. Otherwise, if there are story elements that despite the story's "fantasy" have to conform to accepted truths, then that's an issue you can rightly criticize and take issue with. I once read a story where an author established the story would conform to generally accepted sci-fi principles but when this one ship broke apart and fell through a planet's atmosphere, the people inside somehow didn't die from asphyxiation, burn up from the heat on re-entry, all power was offline so there were no engines, thrusters nor inertial dampening possible and while some parts of the superstructure would have survived...everyone stayed inside, the ship hit the ground hard and didn't kill everyone? Ok, you can go to town with everything wrong with that and you'd be right because that's violating verisimilitude (something has to conform to a certain reality in real life).

 

[LisaVegas]

My stories are true and I have tried to keep them as accurate as possible. I like to add more of how I was feeling to draw that emotion out more so anyone can understand how I felt in the situation. Many writers are to matter of fact and don’t include how anyone is feeling during. No excitement just step one step two. I love to keep it real. My guess is that may not work for most. Or maybe over sensationalize the story in hopes the readers vote them up. I just like to tell what happened and how felt as it happened.