How to lose weight... really?

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[EJFan]

I have a few fitness goals that I'd like to achieve. I achieved some of them in the past in a less than healthy way. Here's hoping I can pull my head out of my ass!

well... if you got your head INTO your ass, you're at least flexible if not healthy.

 

[houseman]

One of my biggest problems is that some foods make me crave the worst things. Like anything made with a lot of tomatos (ask Dan Quaile if it needs and e) say pasta and a tomato based sauce, is an instant craving for chocolate. I try to get by instead with a Nature Valley trail mix bar instead...they're kind of sweet but don't have the saturated fat chocolate has. Ice cream is another thing I crave after a lot of meals. At least I have cut out the Chunkey Monkey.....1200 calories in one container....sometimes used to eat one for lunch. But yeah, exercise is an important part of the equation.

Some foods definitely put the cravings back into your system which is why I don't eat such foods. That, and I remain 100% focused on the task at hand.

Currently, my diet consists of:

Egg whites
Bagels
All Bran
Skim Milk
Chicken
Canned Chicken
Flax Oil
Fat Free Mozzeralla cheese
fat free cottage cheese
8 liters of water/day


That's all

 

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[houseman]

I'm impressed. You are a focused man.

Just goal oriented

Have things to accomplish damnit!

 

[EJFan]

Some foods definitely put the cravings back into your system which is why I don't eat such foods. That, and I remain 100% focused on the task at hand.

Currently, my diet consists of:

Egg whites
Bagels
All Bran
Skim Milk
Chicken
Canned Chicken
Flax Oil
Fat Free Mozzeralla cheese
fat free cottage cheese
8 liters of water/day


That's all

i wouldn't dare challenge you, house, but how much flax oil are you consuming? it seems to be your only source of fat (i know you and i differ on this a bit) but what percentage of your macros is it making up?

i find that healthy fats promote satiety and help make my kcal goals without having to eat such a high volume of food... but that's just me. if flax was my only source of fat i'd have to put it in/on everything. lol.

again, not an argument, just a discussion for educational puproses.

 

[houseman]

i wouldn't dare challenge you, house, but how much flax oil are you consuming? it seems to be your only source of fat (i know you and i differ on this a bit) but what percentage of your macros is it making up?

i find that healthy fats promote satiety and help make my kcal goals without having to eat such a high volume of food... but that's just me. if flax was my only source of fat i'd have to put it in/on everything. lol.

again, not an argument, just a discussion for educational puproses.

2 TBSP's/day which totals 28 grams of fat.

There's an addition 10-15 grams of fat in the rest of my foods. My Bagels count for 3.4 per bagel and I eat 3 of them/day.

The breakdown is about 20% of my overall caloric intake.

The program I am on now, I have no problem with. I'ts about 3300 calories a day. In reality, for me, it's not as much food as I am used to but it's all very nutrient rich and dense food which makes it filling. Plus, at 8 liters of water/day... that keeps my stomach nice and full. Too full at times. lol

 

[EJFan]

The breakdown is about 20% of my overall caloric intake.

ah. i was wondering becuase it sounded rather low, even for you , when i read it. lol.

btw... i don't know what your thoughts are on breakfast cereals on the whole but i, personally, love 'em. recently i got this organic stuff called "optimum power" and it's INCREDIBLE!

organic doesn't mean shit to me... i could seriously care less. but this cereal seems to have some really good ingredients... flax, blueberries, whole grain (seriously whole grain... not, like, cheerios whole grain). i think the company that makes it is called nature's path... they have a pretty wide selection of cereal products (hot, cold, kiddie, adult, etc.).

 

[houseman]

ah. i was wondering becuase it sounded rather low, even for you , when i read it. lol.

btw... i don't know what your thoughts are on breakfast cereals on the whole but i, personally, love 'em. recently i got this organic stuff called "optimum power" and it's INCREDIBLE!

organic doesn't mean shit to me... i could seriously care less. but this cereal seems to have some really good ingredients... flax, blueberries, whole grain (seriously whole grain... not, like, cheerios whole grain). i think the company that makes it is called nature's path... they have a pretty wide selection of cereal products (hot, cold, kiddie, adult, etc.).

I'm not big on cereal but I eat this because it has 36 grams of fiber per 1 cup serving.

 

[EJFan]

I'm not big on cereal but I eat this because it has 36 grams of fiber per 1 cup serving.

so you ARE familiar with it! cool. at least i know i'm not the only one.

it was so odd... our local food lion (suck ass chain supermarket) actually carries a good chunk of the nature's path product line. it's amazing considering that i can find it hard to get anything really interesting at most of the area supermarkets.... we're so in the dark here when it comes to trying new things.

like eilan said once... "our store thinks that if they can't pronounce it, we don't need it."

 

[houseman]

so you ARE familiar with it! cool. at least i know i'm not the only one.

it was so odd... our local food lion (suck ass chain supermarket) actually carries a good chunk of the nature's path product line. it's amazing considering that i can find it hard to get anything really interesting at most of the area supermarkets.... we're so in the dark here when it comes to trying new things.

like eilan said once... "our store thinks that if they can't pronounce it, we don't need it."

No. I didn't mean I eat your cereal. I eat my cereal. I DO know of your cereal though.

 

[EJFan]

No. I didn't mean I eat your cereal. I eat my cereal. I DO know of your cereal though.

oops. when you said "i eat this because" i just assumed you meant the optimum power crap. my bad.

what is it that you eat then? aside from this stuff i pretty much stick to either grape nuts or all bran.

 

[houseman]

oops. when you said "i eat this because" i just assumed you meant the optimum power crap. my bad.

what is it that you eat then? aside from this stuff i pretty much stick to either grape nuts or all bran.

All Bran Pellets

 

[EJFan]

All Bran Pellets

i JUST got some o' this last week. not bad but i'd never had it before and thought it'd be more like grape nuts... which it is, i guess, just not as dense... less crunchy.

good for a crap, nonetheless.

 

[houseman]

i JUST got some o' this last week. not bad but i'd never had it before and thought it'd be more like grape nuts... which it is, i guess, just not as dense... less crunchy.

good for a crap, nonetheless.

Hense why I eat two cups a day

 

[kinky shy girl]

i've lost 4 lbs in the last month. (i'm 5'1'' so a few extra pounds really show on my frame) the main thing that helped is not eating at night. i sleep very late, so i used to eat dinner around 8pm and maybe have a snack around 11pm. very bad.

now i eat dinner around 6pm and nothing afterwards. maybe a piece of fruit if i'm starving. plus i do cardio and weights. end result is that i'm constantly hungry at night, but i'm getting used to it.

 

[houseman]

i've lost 4 lbs in the last month. (i'm 5'1'' so a few extra pounds really show on my frame) the main thing that helped is not eating at night. i sleep very late, so i used to eat dinner around 8pm and maybe have a snack around 11pm. very bad.

now i eat dinner around 6pm and nothing afterwards. maybe a piece of fruit if i'm starving. plus i do cardio and weights. end result is that i'm constantly hungry at night, but i'm getting used to it.

One should not be "constantly" hungry is they are dieting correctly. Only in the later stages of a diet (once I hit the 16 of 20 week) will I start having the feelings of being very hungry but that's to be expected when you get to that stage of the game.

Constant hunger is a sign that you are starving yourself and not doing things properly.

 

[EJFan]

i have to disagree with you a bit, houseman... or maybe i'm reading differently from what you're typing (a hazard of not actually talking perhaps)...

when i lost my weight i went through periods of hunger from time to time... i'm only guessing but i'd suppose that the mind/body connection isn't quite reformed and you sort of "imagine" that you're hungry... feeling the sensations and all... but it's not really hunger, more of a craving.

in my uneducated opinion, i think her pound a week pace is pretty good. as long as kcals are in check she can still feel some hunger pangs w/o hitting starvation mode.

that being said, KSG, don't be afraid of eating at night... particularly a good protein source like fat free cottage cheese or something. it'll help you get through to morning and keep your metabolism moving a little faster than it would if there was nothing there.

the most important thing is to eat a little below maintenance (everyone has different tolerances/abilities here)... know your maintenance cals and be sure your daily intake is in check.

my two cents.

 

[houseman]

i have to disagree with you a bit, houseman... or maybe i'm reading differently from what you're typing (a hazard of not actually talking perhaps)...

when i lost my weight i went through periods of hunger from time to time... i'm only guessing but i'd suppose that the mind/body connection isn't quite reformed and you sort of "imagine" that you're hungry... feeling the sensations and all... but it's not really hunger, more of a craving.

in my uneducated opinion, i think her pound a week pace is pretty good. as long as kcals are in check she can still feel some hunger pangs w/o hitting starvation mode.

that being said, KSG, don't be afraid of eating at night... particularly a good protein source like fat free cottage cheese or something. it'll help you get through to morning and keep your metabolism moving a little faster than it would if there was nothing there.

the most important thing is to eat a little below maintenance (everyone has different tolerances/abilities here)... know your maintenance cals and be sure your daily intake is in check.

my two cents.

I don't disagree with you but it's not right to be "constantly hungry". It means something is off.

And, this idea of not eating after a certain point... is not good at all. My last meal of the day is at 10:30 on non weight training days and 10pm on weight training days. My first meal starts at either 7:30 or 8:30 as well.

No problems here. I could it could just be mental. Not sure.

1lbs/week is definitely good. Means you are losing fat and only fat. Not too much in the way of muscle loss at only one pound a week. I try to strive for 2lbs but with men it's much easier to accomplish this.

 

[Eilan]

Today, I did something that I hadn't done since I became pregnant with my almost-two-year-old: I went to the Y and lifted weights. I didn't do too much, since it's definitely been a while, but I realized how much I missed something that, until recent years, had been a huge part of my life since 1994. It felt good (I KNOW I won't be saying that tomorrow).

I also did some cardio, which I've already been doing a bit more regularly, anyway.

Yay for me!

 

[kinky shy girl]

houseman & ejfan, thanks for your posts. just to clarify, i get really hungry at night because i miss munching on junk food. so maybe it is mostly mental. when i quit smoking, i substituted one bad habit w/ junk food. i still eat bad stuff once in a while, but not too often.

i'm definitely not semi-anorexic. i used to starve myself and that didn't help at all. i just gained it all back eventually. right now it's slow and steady wins the race.

eilan, congratulations! i hate cario, but i like working on weight machines. i can't lift a lot of pounds, so i make up for it w/ increased reps. it's a nice feeling, isn't it??

 

[EJFan]

Today, I did something that I hadn't done since I became pregnant with my almost-two-year-old: I went to the Y and lifted weights. I didn't do too much, since it's definitely been a while, but I realized how much I missed something that, until recent years, had been a huge part of my life since 1994. It felt good (I KNOW I won't be saying that tomorrow).

I also did some cardio, which I've already been doing a bit more regularly, anyway.

Yay for me!

sweet!

can anybody say DOMS!??!?!?!

 

[houseman]

Ahhh.. just ending the 4th week of my pre competition dieting before I start bulking again.

14lbs in 4 weeks. 2" on the waist. Caliper's show mostly fat loss with hardly and muscle too boot. Which is good. I work hard for every ounce of muscle I got. lol

Feels good to be starting to get back to regular (for me at least) sized clothes

 

[EJFan]

good deal house! that's awesome... i hope you do well in the competition.

i started cycling a few weeks ago (on a bike, not on injectables... lol) and have dumped 9 pounds on my cut. fastest loss to date. i imagine it would be even FASTER if i went out after lifting but i can't bring myself to do so yet. i prefer having a dedicated day for it at this point. not optimal but it works.