I Want to Get Raped Ch. 02

[gunhilltrain]

Well I'm trying to write it so that he can fulfill her fantasy without bringing additional men into the equation.

My guess is that Lit rules would require that the event be a completely staged and faked role play. Probably that means that only one man would be involved, and the general outlines of the event are agreed to ahead of time. I must be wrong, because the story by thebobber326 seems to cross the line, even if he claims that the female character wanted it that way. Or he got away with it because he claims that it is purely a fantasy on his part. But then, all the stories on here could be considered fantasies, even if some have a basis in real events.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Yes, that's the plan, but the fantasy included multiple assailants. Not to mention at some point she has to realize that it is her husband and he's doing this to fulfill her fantasy, or else it's just rape and not something she can enjoy at some point. I've got it pretty well laid out, it's just wildly different from my usual May/December romances.

As I tried to explain above, the the way you described this event, while not completely impossible I guess, sounds highly improbable.

 

[rutherford366]

I only read some of it. I have to ask, if she is looking for this to happen and does what they want, is it really rape?
From what I gathered she was a willing participant. This is more of a submissive story, maybe closer to BDSM.

 

[Rob_Royale]

As I tried to explain above, the the way you described this event, while not completely impossible I guess, sounds highly improbable.

You just described the majority of the work on this site. Certainly my work. The story is coming along. Would you like me to bounce it off you when it's posted? Just for curiosities sake? I appreciate your input. Thanks very much.

 

[stickygirl]

Thanks for the feedback! I call it rape because she does not give verbal or any other form of consent despite the fact that she wants it.

Then stop calling it rape. What you're doing, is diminishing a crime... we only murdered her 'a bit', we only set her on fire 'a little'. Quit using the word - you know you shouldn't, what you're doing is using a clickbait title to drag in male readers who find rape kinky - you know, like rapists. ffs

 

[lovecraft68]

Then stop calling it rape. What you're doing, is diminishing a crime... we only murdered her 'a bit', we only set her on fire 'a little'. Quit using the word - you know you shouldn't, what you're doing is using a clickbait title to drag in male readers who find rape kinking - you know, like rapists. ffs

I agree, but we need to put some onus on the site as well. "We don't want full out rape stories, but feel free to use the word in the title so anyone looking for rape stories on google can find us." The talking out of both sides of their mouth is BS. They want clicks and don't care who they come from. For that matter let's get to if you don't want non con and only want reluctance or Dub con why the fuck do you have a category called Non con? In that light I find it hard to blame the author for doing it. If the story was kicked back because of the word in the title, he'd know not to do it again.

Because they're lying hypocrites is the answer no one seems to want to admit.

While I'm at it, the entire victim has to like it deal is worse than an actual rape story. If its flat out rape it appeals to the kink in the fantasy sense(at least we hope the authors/readers see it as just an extreme kink and not to be condoned in real life) but the 'she has to like it' pushes the mantra "See, no always means yes, all dem bitches want it!"

Not that I feel you can hold fictional stories to causing real life events, but it does push a dangerous ideal that wouldn't exist in a straight up non con story which reads like "Yeah, like incest, we know we can't do these things, but this is just fantasy" instead we have to play this absurd game and encourage the thought you're never raping a woman because look, see? She always wants it no matter what she says.

I once had this out with Laurel a few years back when she used to post. Her oh, so educated response to me? "Well, you write incest stories."

My reply was "show me the no incest stories rule, and I'll pull them right now"

I'm sure you won't find it hard to believe there was never a reply to that.

Don't get me started on what a cesspool of rape and abuse the "BDSM" section is.

 

[tristantrotsky]

Personally, from my point of view, I enjoy watching those videos where they interview the smiling girl, and the interviewer asks her 'do you know why you're here today?' she giggles and she replies 'I'm here to be gang-banged by twelve guys.' Then she's hauled away and her slutty clothes are pulled off and she's repeatedly fucked in every orifice by twelve relentless and well-hung guys who face-fuck her one after the other and rough-fuck her ass and her pussy simultaneously, regularly switching holes. She's held down and her make-up is smudged and they cum on her face and into her open mouth. Presumably she has a safe word? Until, at the very end, she sits there prettily with her face and bare tits spattered in cum and drool and the interviewer says 'did that live up to your expectations?' and she gushes 'that was totally AMAZING!'

 

[djrip]

You guys, going on again as if there is a rule against rape. I noticed the other day, Tara's Breeding is in the top 30 favorites stories list (don't think I ever looked through that before).

There are stories about sex slaves in the thousands. I saw a story where a woman was brutally gang raped until catatonic and then left in a dumpster. That one actually is hard to believe, since it doesn't follow the 'must end up enjoying it' rule.

But that rule in general is not so strange. Statistically, being raped is a common female fantasy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with women wanting to read about being raped, however you may feel about men wanting to read about raping. And I imagine most of the time those women want to read about a rape that ends up being enjoyed.

Also doesn't seem very different from portraying incest as all puppies and rainbows when we all know in real life it's not generally like that, since you brought up the comparison. These are fantasies.

 

[stickygirl]

Times have changed - we're not in the 1990s when child abusers in public life were given the nod by the music industry or TV. Same with rape and rapists.

We can't inhibit people's fantasies, but fantasies are in the mind and shouldn't be played out IRL or shared with readers drawn in by a title or content.

I dunno... Murder is probably the most popular crime style novel. Maybe it just depends on how you murder someone, how you recount their liver falling out on your shoes as you drove in the blade.... you know, kinda messy murder. A bit like rape then - y'know, she statistically always wanted it, right?

 

[djrip]

I disagree! With the 'we shouldn't share these kind of fantasies with readers' part, since you added more.

 

[lovecraft68]

Personally, from my point of view, I enjoy watching those videos where they interview the smiling girl, and the interviewer asks her 'do you know why you're here today?' she giggles and she replies 'I'm here to be gang-banged by twelve guys.' Then she's hauled away and her slutty clothes are pulled off and she's repeatedly fucked in every orifice by twelve relentless and well-hung guys who face-fuck her one after the other and rough-fuck her ass and her pussy simultaneously, regularly switching holes. She's held down and her make-up is smudged and they cum on her face and into her open mouth. Presumably she has a safe word? Until, at the very end, she sits there prettily with her face and bare tits spattered in cum and drool and the interviewer says 'did that live up to your expectations?' and she gushes 'that was totally AMAZING!'

Yeah. sounds like Kink dot com which is in the UK, they have a lot of hardcore sites under them, whipped ass(woman on woman femdon) bound gang bangs, public disgrace etc....

Thing is most of those "smiling girls" who say this is my fantasy and have them make it happen are porn stars.

Like in TV there is little reality in reality porn.

 

[lovecraft68]

Times have changed - we're not in the 1990s when child abusers in public life were given the nod by the music industry or TV. Same with rape and rapists.

Have they changed? Let me ask you a question not enough people in positions of authority are asking. Epstein goes to jail for sex trafficking. His partner in crime goes to jail for sex trafficking. They have their records. Why is it no one has been arrested for obtaining sex slaves, especially under aged once, from him? Two people went to jail with....no proof of a crime if no one is named.

Hmmm....or is it that its been agreed upon by all the wealthy politicians, kings, princes, celebrities, millionaires and billionaires that none of this can come out?

And as a society we're so stuck on social media and hating one another we don't demand to know who these animals are.

Also, look at Football. If you're a good player, you can beat your kids, women, commit rape, beat the shit out of people and ride around with automatic weapons and not even break the NFL's "personal conduct rule" why? Because too many moral crusaders suddenly look the other way when something threatens their precious entertainment.

I give you the case of Weinstein V Tarantino, former is rightfully reviled, latter is awesome because lemmings buy into the hype its cool to like his movies.

We can only police our own morals, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't speak out, in fact if you don't you just perpetuate an issue. But in these examples we're talking real life.

My issue isn't content of fictional stories here, its the game of "we have a stance....yeah, no we don't" on this topic. Again, if the site will let you put rape in a title or tag, that's something they should be called out for because if someone comes here and sees it, they feel they can do it, and why wouldn't they?

This is where in the AH we get if you don't like it leave.

 

[djrip]

I dunno... Murder is probably the most popular crime style novel. Maybe it just depends on how you murder someone, how you recount their liver falling out on your shoes as you drove in the blade.... you know, kinda messy murder. A bit like rape then - y'know, she statistically always wanted it, right?

This kind of supports my point, unless you are saying there shouldn't be books with murders? Serial killers?

 

[gunhilltrain]

You just described the majority of the work on this site. Certainly my work. The story is coming along. Would you like me to bounce it off you when it's posted? Just for curiosities sake? I appreciate your input. Thanks very much.

Sure, I'll look at it; let me know when it's posted. The one Non-Consent/Reluctance story I have here is staged in advance.

https://classic.literotica.com/s/the-ravishment-of-young-judy

Maybe it didn't score well because it is faked, although it's mostly a comedy.

 

[gunhilltrain]

This kind of supports my point, unless you are saying there shouldn't be books with murders? Serial killers?

You can get away with things like that in the publishing world, but you can't do them here. American Psycho, Lolita, Will Self's My Idea of Fun, and many others wouldn't be accepted on Lit.

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

Have they changed? Let me ask you a question not enough people in positions of authority are asking. Epstein goes to jail for sex trafficking. His partner in crime goes to jail for sex trafficking. They have their records. Why is it no one has been arrested for obtaining sex slaves, especially under aged once, from him? Two people went to jail with....no proof of a crime if no one is named.

Hmmm....or is it that its been agreed upon by all the wealthy politicians, kings, princes, celebrities, millionaires and billionaires that none of this can come out?

And as a society we're so stuck on social media and hating one another we don't demand to know who these animals are.

Also, look at Football. If you're a good player, you can beat your kids, women, commit rape, beat the shit out of people and ride around with automatic weapons and not even break the NFL's "personal conduct rule" why? Because too many moral crusaders suddenly look the other way when something threatens their precious entertainment.

I give you the case of Weinstein V Tarantino, former is rightfully reviled, latter is awesome because lemmings buy into the hype its cool to like his movies.

We can only police our own morals, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't speak out, in fact if you don't you just perpetuate an issue. But in these examples we're talking real life.

My issue isn't content of fictional stories here, its the game of "we have a stance....yeah, no we don't" on this topic. Again, if the site will let you put rape in a title or tag, that's something they should be called out for because if someone comes here and sees it, they feel they can do it, and why wouldn't they?

This is where in the AH we get if you don't like it leave.

I'm not entirely sure what your point with that unnecessarily long rant was. Of course times have changed. In the 80s, you could walk into a bar, meet up with your male friends to loudly joke about how you just had to force your spouse into performing her "wifely duties", and everyone would have gotten a big laugh out of it. Try that today, then come back here and tell us how long your hospital stay was.

Regarding the rest? Well, power corrupts. Shocker, I know. But what it boils down to is that people tend to ignore the suffering of nameless, faceless strangers they don't know and have nothing to do with, if it means they can now keep enjoying their lifes. That is nothing new and applies to everybody. If it wouldn't, the entire nation would've flipped their shit every time that Alyssa Milano Unicef commercial was played.

But I agree on your last point. If the site wants to accept rape stories, they shouldn't put up fake rules against them just so they can claim to not condone them. You know, in case they ever had accusations thrown at them after authorities find literotica bookmarked on the laptop of Ted Bundy's rapey cousin or something.

 

[countdowntolov3]

I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring rape in erotica. You really can't deny that it's a common fantasy for women. And it's not like it isn't a common plot point used for titillation in incredibly popular multi-million dollar TV serieses.

But I'm popping in here to say I thought @lovecraft68 made a point that is eye opening to me. He pointed out that were you to take a moral stance of rape in erotica the "she has to enjoy it" rule is probably more socially harmful, since it supports the dangerous mindset that women say no but mean yes.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm not entirely sure what your point with that unnecessarily long rant was. Of course times have changed. In the 80s, you could walk into a bar, meet up with your male friends to loudly joke about how you just had to force your spouse into performing her "wifely duties", and everyone would have gotten a big laugh out of it. Try that today, then come back here and tell us how long your hospital stay was.

Regarding the rest? Well, power corrupts. Shocker, I know. But what it boils down to is that people tend to ignore the suffering of nameless, faceless strangers they don't know and have nothing to do with, if it means they can now keep enjoying their lifes. That is nothing new and applies to everybody. If it wouldn't, the entire nation would've flipped their shit every time that Alyssa Milano Unicef commercial was played.

But I agree on your last point. If the site wants to accept rape stories, they shouldn't put up fake rules against them just so they can claim to not condone them. You know, in case they ever had accusations thrown at them after authorities find literotica bookmarked on the laptop of Ted Bundy's rapey cousin or something.

I grew up in the 80's, turned 18 in 86 and there was no PC, people said what they wanted and told jokes that would get them fired today. Thing was for the most part it was jokes and no one had any real malice towards anyone, unlike today's "progressive era" of everyone hating and cancelling everyone. Having said that, I recall once being in a bar and someone told the "How do you get a girl with two black eyes to stop talking joke" Punchline of course is "I don't know, I already told her twice." This is someone who people knew hit his wife so I have him two black eyes in less time than it took for him to fall off the stool.

Guess when you grow up watching your father beat and literally force your mother into sex, you don't find the topic amusing.

My only real point here is the one you agreed with. Fiction is fiction and I would never want to censor anything. In fact if we want to go back to the 80's everything I liked, D&D, heavy metal, Horror movies like the Evil dead were all being attacked by the "Washington wives" and other groups. I find non con stories to be disgusting, but that's my opinion and guess what? I don't read them, they're not for me but some people like the fantasy.

My issue is the tiresome lies of the site. Accept the material or get rid of the words non con in the category and actually enforce the rule because again, I blame neither the authors of those stories or readers for thinking they belong here.

As for this material showing up on a rapists laptop, of course it will be full of rape stories and porn and bondage mags under the bed. But guess what? A lot of people have that material and would never hurt anyone. I write a ton of taboo material and am the first one to say that in real life there is nothing sexy about this stuff, we're doing pure fantasy here.

But lit is ultimately going to have some trouble with the law at some point and it won't be about stories.

 

[RoperTrace]

I think fantasy/desire and reality would be drastically different in this case. I don't think a person who has a rape fantasy, is liable to enjoy actually being raped. It's violence and pure terror.

In my story, she'll feel the fear at first, as she's faced with multiple men, stripped, handcuffed, and blindfolded and as the first cock is pushed into her, her husband uses a pet name that only he knows, to let her understand she's in no actual danger and can enjoy what happens thereafter.

I just published a story, 'Forced' along those lines a month ago. It was the real life fantasy of a friend of mine, and to my knowledge never happened because her RL partner refused to use the level of violence that she wanted. I toned that part way down in order to be able to write a story that Laurel would approve, and I would feel comfortable writing.

 

[thebobber326]

I never meant for this to be a controversial thread so I apologize if the title of my story was too much. It was just a fantasy that I had wanted to type up because I thought it was hot. I will even agree that I think the Lit rule regarding rape is rather ridiculous for the exact reason that @lovecraft68 mentioned. I think if Lit wants rape stories, they should just openly admit that. There was also some confusion about why I call it rape when she wants it. And, like I said earlier, if someone does not consent, it is rape. Although she wanted it, at no point did she give consent so it is rape. I really did not think that much about the title, it is just description of the basic fantasy that is the foundation of this story. Not to state the obvious, but personally I see no problems with fantasies like this so long as they are just fantasy. if it is okay for me to enjoy a series or movie about murderers or gangsters and fantasize about what it would be like to be one, I do not see why rape should be any different.

 

[lovecraft68]

I never meant for this to be a controversial thread so I apologize if the title of my story was too much. It was just a fantasy that I had wanted to type up because I thought it was hot. I will even agree that I think the Lit rule regarding rape is rather ridiculous for the exact reason that @lovecraft68 mentioned. I think if Lit wants rape stories, they should just openly admit that. There was also some confusion about why I call it rape when she wants it. And, like I said earlier, if someone does not consent, it is rape. Although she wanted it, at no point did she give consent so it is rape. I really did not think that much about the title, it is just description of the basic fantasy that is the foundation of this story. Not to state the obvious, but personally I see no problems with fantasies like this so long as they are just fantasy. if it is okay for me to enjoy a series or movie about murderers or gangsters and fantasize about what it would be like to be one, I do not see why rape should be any different.

No need to apologize, its a chance for people to discuss the topic. Like I said before, this is not on you. Had the site kicked your story back and said "we don't accept this word in a title" or "we don't accept this content" then you would have not published or made changes.

This is on them, and that's what the bootlicks here need to realize instead of attacking people who don't understand the rules because they're enforced with such a half assed effort, if at all.

 

[Bettytheboo]

I have sexual fantasies like any other woman and it does include similar situations to rape. I have had a lover cut my clothes with a box cutter and rip them away and its very exciting for both me and him in a controlled situation, the main difference is I trust him, but then that diminishes the experience a little bit for me.

I totally sympathies with the comments from other people who disagree with stories like this but I have to say I find the story very erotic. You cannot put everybody's sexual sycie in the same box and it would be a boring world if you could. I enjoy physical sex, and the term my friend uses is forced sex rather than rape. I think the safety word in this situation is role-play, it's for pleasure.

I have been called very open minded and if my views upset other women I apologise, but literature is about exploration.

 

[YANKEE DAN]

I'm shocked by how many people on here act so aghast that someone might fantasize about being raped. Research has shown that about half of women have this fantasy, and for probably more than 1 in 10 it's a significant kink that they think about a lot. Obviously actually being raped would be traumatic probably even for the women who are the most interested in this fantasy so exploring it via writing is an obvious outlet. I had a girlfriend once who would say, "We're going to have sex but you have to make me." I would then have to basically wrestle her until she was tired and pinned and that was foreplay for her.

Also some small number of men have this as well, I like to imagine myself forcably feminized and I've written stories in that vain that recieved comments from other men about how hot it would be to be forced by other men, doesn't mean that is a good idea we should pursue but well, there it is.

 

[gunhilltrain]

You just described the majority of the work on this site. Certainly my work. The story is coming along. Would you like me to bounce it off you when it's posted? Just for curiosities sake? I appreciate your input. Thanks very much.

It doesn't seem to be there yet, but I know these things take time, often more than first anticipated.

 

[Rob_Royale]

It doesn't seem to be there yet, but I know these things take time, often more than first anticipated.

Yes. I've got three stories all at about 60% done, but I worked on this one today. I hope to get it closer to done this week.