Is sex better for women?

[CWatson]

Can we just, like, everyone add him to our Ignore lists? Maybe then he'll go away.

Also worthy of mentioning is that women barely initiate, don't really desire men and foreplay is more about them

Yes, it is. That is, unfortunately, how sex works: women need a lot more foreplay before they are aroused enough for intercourse. Why is this true? Nobody knows; it was God's idea. You'll have to ask Him.

ad that men can't really relax and let go during orgasms or get multiple orgasms from women.

That depends on the man. There are tales of men who have become multi-orgasmic. As to enjoying my orgasm, I personally have no problem with this; the real problem for me is endurance, that the point of enjoying-my-orgasm comes rather too quickly. I'm sure others have the opposite plight. If you asked this question of ten men on the street, you would probably get ten different answers.

It'd be rare to find a woman who gave more than she took.

And, again, that depends on the woman. And the man. I am a virgin so my practical experience is severely limited, but my understanding of a working sexual relationship is that it is all about giving--that sex, when undertaken properly, has absolutely nothing to do with your own pleasure and everything to do with your partner's. What this means is that you should talk to your partners about their attitudes if they seem selfish... And that you, for your part, should take the high road and turn the other cheek. If you give more than you receive in your sex life, you should smile and nod, because that is how sex works.

A psychologist once ran a simple experiment. He took 100 married couples and divided them into rooms by gender. He asked the men, "How much of the work do you do in your marriage," and they all said, "About 75%." Then he went to the women and asked them, "How much of the work do you do in your marriage," and they all said, "About 75%." They were both right. And I can't imagine sex is any different.

Besides, she thinks she's giving more than she receives too. It's true: women do initiate less, they do require more foreplay, they are not quite as interested in sex as men are. And yet, more often than not, they engage in it anyway, to please their man. Just as you sacrifice for her, by engaging in extended foreplay and being patient, she sacrifices for you--by doing it at all. And if you are not okay with trading sacrifices like that, then you have much bigger problems than your sex life because this is, unfortunately, how life works. We trade in one thing to get another. We compromise. We spend money to make money: we show respect to gain it; we show love to gain it. That is life. Nobody will ever give you anything unless you have shown yourself willing to give in return.

Long story short, you are receiving hostility from us because your comments are phrased in a way that make you seem selfish and unreasonable. You seem to want everything to go exactly your way, and to have no patience with any other method--including, in this case, the stark realities of female physiology and psychology, whose laws are beyond your, our or anybody's power to alter. I urge you to spend some time thinking about the fact that you are being perceived this way. True, it is our responsibility to not judge a book by its cover... But it is also your responsibility to put forward a pleasant and respectful cover. If it is our job to look past this display--which it is--then it is also yours to not display it in the first place. That is one of those irritating-but-necessary compromises that happen so frequently in life. Please think on this.

 

[NippleMuncher]

No. I never said anything of the sort. Learn to read idiot. I think you're the insensitive bitch.

Hmmm, you come in here insulting our intelligence, then proclaim that we are the ignorant idiots ... Me thinks you have some momma issues you should be seeking professional help for.

 

[Cattypuss]

What's with all the angry, socially impotent, ridiculously bitter and twisted men on here lately?

Let's put the OP and Dr Randomfuck in a locked room together and let them beat each other to a pulp.

 

[TallMan60]

What's with all the angry, socially impotent, ridiculously bitter and twisted men on here lately?

Let's put the OP and Dr Randomfuck in a locked room together and let them beat each other to a pulp.

Well I try not to be one of those. So there are a few that are not like that. I even clean up pretty good for social things. People would hardly know I'm a geek sometimes, when I try.

 

[emap]

Really? Are you blind or are you an idiot? Who did I insult? The others threw the insults and I gave it back to them. Maybe those are too weak and cowardly and need to insult in groups (like you) shouldn't insult if you cry when someone responds.

Let's see, everyone with your threads, I mean seriously, do you really think the entire world is that brain dead they are going to believe something apparently said in a different forum by people who almost definitely are not accredited doctors or scientists?

Or perhaps how you consistently ignore everyone who does not agree with you and continue to spout the same nonsense, unless they point out your obvious lack of intelligence. I mean seriously, just because it's said on a forum it means it's true?

No seriously, do you also believe that there is a tooth fairy, santa clause easter bunny and that you can duck down below your car door to avoid being shot?

So now in all seriousness, I somehow can manage to do that with you, if your experience with women suggests that they don't do anything in bed, don't ask for sex ever and simply use you for your juices, I suggest you either find an actual woman, or raise your standards by ALOT. Not to mention say, actyually trying to get her excited instead of getting on top sliding in and pumping twice before rolling over to sleep.

Woman don't always need foreplay, they don't always want sex for 2 hours, well rarely want that anyway, but they always want a lover who is attentive to her needs, cares that she is ready for sex, wishes to give her orgasms, and can think about something besides having his own orgasms.

OK so I checked a little deeper, the basis of at least one of the threads you linked to is a book written by all of things, a journalist. There's no leading scientific minds there, it's a journalist who probably edited what he was told to fit his own preconceived notion or just to be inflammatory to sell more books. Find a serious scientific or medical paper on the subject and perhaps someone will take you seriously somewhere.

 

[MALIBUMAN666]

Isn't the internet a wonderful thing, that knobheads like this one can go forth all over the world and give us guys a bad name.

Shut up you halfwit.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I always wonder why dumb bitches like you answer if you have nothing valuable to say. Nothing will change the fact that everything you post is useless. And your last point is stupid. I never said anything of the sort. But what would someone like you know? You're the one with the chip on your shoulder. You're the one lying about what I wrote and reacting with emotion. I didn't expect more from you though.

And your previous threads prove my assertions right. Now go insult someone else so you feel better about your pathetic life.

Oh you're special.

I said it to DrAntsyPants and I'll say it to you.

You don't like HT. You don't like the posters on HT. You think everyone who doesn't pander to your half baked sweeping assumptions is stupid, so why are you seeking other opinions in the first place, on a forum that you don't even fucking like?

When everyone tells you you're completely wrong, it's because you are.

Now run along before that fleshlight of yours cools down.

I wonder, does a fleshlight enjoy sex more than a highly strung, misogynistic fuckwit with a tiny little dick?

 

[infinity706]

http://www.femalemultiple.org/index.php?topic=47.0

http://www.malemultiple.org/index.php?topic=34.0

http://www.malemultiple.org/index.php?topic=130.0

Also worthy of mentioning is that women barely initiate, don't really desire men and foreplay is more about them ad that men can't really relax and let go during orgasms or get multiple orgasms from women. It'd be rare to find a woman who gave more than she took.

Well at least men have more nerves in their sexual organs.

Sweeping statements much? I've met multiple women that seduce guys.

Reluctant to post on what may be a troll thread, but I have an opinion, completely unbacked by anything empirical (almost by definition so, since only Tiresias knows for sure).

I think better for women. The many orgasms in a sex session is one huge component. For men sex involves a lot of grit-your-teeth, hold-back, "endurance tests." (Except this test is not at all grim. ) I am very jealous that women can relax and just come again and again, with the same pleasure potential each time.

Additionally, I think sex for women is much more "multidimensional," and engages their entire body (skin, to be specific). That makes the experience much more sensual, literally, and following from that, in the psychological sense also. For men it's "one-dimensional" - it's all about the dick.

A sidebar on that one - nipples. I've read descriptions that it's like a live wire between nipple and clit. For a man that's like, "Huh?" We can't imagine that.

Heinlein also thought it was better for women - some here will have read I Will Fear No Evil. A sci-fi Tiresias.

This part is metaphorical: I think this is compensation for the fact that women bear the burden of the consequences of sex - pregnancy, birth, and primary care at least for the first year or two (baby at your breast). Certainly for many women those things have their own compensations, but on their face they dangerous, painful and uncomfortable.

Then there is menstruation - the fuss and muss, the cramps, etc. etc. Bottom line is, the least nature could do is compensate with great sex. (Of course nature is a fascist and couldn't care less - I said this was metaphorical.)

Actually, the nipple thing doesn't work for all women. There's been a few that have told me they get nothing out of nipple play. Of course, it does work for some guys as well. I know that from personal experience.

New if you don't want to be insulted perhaps you should try not insulting everyone else.

So I'm going to point something out, sex isn't all about the freaking orgasms, doesn't matter how many either person has. Yes some women can have multiple orgasms during one session of sex, i'm one of the lucky ones even. Trust me, I have done multiple orgasms and hated the sex, because all the guy was doing was shoving me down, spreading my legs and fucking me, never played with my breasts or kissed me or nothing. He figured he was doing it right because I came a couple times.

I never saw him again, at least not on purpose. Sex is about the closeness, the intimacy, the pleasure of the actual pumping. Good greif if sex was all about the orgasm do you really think women would be complaining about 5 minute men?

New here's a tip, before you use the forums again, grow up, grow a spine, get a girlfriend and stop being a clueless virgin. Heck rent a girlfriend, probably would take that anyway.

Well, from what I've heard, the women that complain about 5 minute men are more pissed about not having orgasms. That is honestly the first time I've ever heard a woman complain about a sex session that led to an orgasm. I can see your point, though. I've had plenty of experiences like that. I've even had guys that figured having a submissive side means they can do anything and everything they want to me.

 

[Mac98]

New... I suggest just taking it easy a bit. You're a little too worked up for nothing... Relax, have some peanut butter toast and listen to some Leonard Cohen...

As for the subject, to my knowledge, the "enjoyment" of sex is quite relative and depends on many factors. A man who fucks/rapes, beats and is excessively rough with a woman who would rather be taken care of, caressed and made love to will probably enjoy the sex much more than the woman.

On the other hand, if we go with logic, rationality and the obvious, yes, perhaps women can have multiple orgasms, they can relax and may have more nerves and all, but I think the "quality" comes into play more than anything else... that and the intimate connection.

 

[JohnMBrowning]

Actually, the nipple thing doesn't work for all women. There's been a few that have told me they get nothing out of nipple play. Of course, it does work for some guys as well. I know that from personal experience.

When the subject matter is human beings, nothing works with all of them. Still, it's interesting to talk about tendencies, even in something so inherently subjective that it's impossible to ever establish a definitive answer.

For reasons unrelated to the subject that discussion probably isn't going to happen on this thread. Maybe another one later.

 

[MisterSir]

When the subject matter is human beings, nothing works with all of them.

I don't know about that, stabbing seems to be a constant.

 

[newtoforums]

Oh you're special.

I said it to DrAntsyPants and I'll say it to you.

You don't like HT. You don't like the posters on HT. You think everyone who doesn't pander to your half baked sweeping assumptions is stupid, so why are you seeking other opinions in the first place, on a forum that you don't even fucking like?

When everyone tells you you're completely wrong, it's because you are.

Now run along before that fleshlight of yours cools down.

I wonder, does a fleshlight enjoy sex more than a highly strung, misogynistic fuckwit with a tiny little dick?

Your an idiot. No one even went into details. People started insulting in the first few posts namely you.

Now go enjoy your rabbit you man hating piece of shit. That is a whore like you can feel it in your loose , whore pussy.

 

[newtoforums]

Isn't the internet a wonderful thing, that knobheads like this one can go forth all over the world and give us guys a bad name.

Shut up you halfwit.

Fuck you douchebag. Your probably a loser so you need to cater to women.

 

[JohnMBrowning]

Me: When the subject matter is human beings, nothing works with all of them.

MisterSir: I don't know about that, stabbing seems to be a constant.

Nope, not even that:

"In a fierce fight beginning at dawn on November 22, 1718, the British sailors attacked and defeated Blackbeard and his crew. After suffering twenty-five wounds, including five from gunshots, Blackbeard finally died."

OK, it eventually worked, but not the first time!

 

[Eilan]

Repetitive troll is repetitive.

Your shtick got old five threads ago. No one on this board is ever going to take you seriously, so why don't you pack up and move along to some misogynists' forum? Hell, start your own damn forum for all we care.

However, my offer to have you serve my friends at my house naked while we make fun of your impotent, microscopic, disease-ridden, pathetic excuse for a cock still stands, because we all know that's what you're really craving.

 

[NippleMuncher]

Fuck you douchebag. Your probably a loser so you need to cater to women.

Obviously, you're so fucking pathetic that you can't get laid, unless you count the neighbors goat, though with your attitude I doubt even unsuspecting farm animals would have anything to do with you. Run along now, little boy, your mother is calling.

 

[shiny5437]

Besides, she thinks she's giving more than she receives too. It's true: women do initiate less, they do require more foreplay, they are not quite as interested in sex as men are. And yet, more often than not, they engage in it anyway, to please their man. Just as you sacrifice for her, by engaging in extended foreplay and being patient, she sacrifices for you--by doing it at all.

I'm surprised this went through without comment. I used to think the same as this but surely after reading this forum it's more apparent that women are just as sexually interested as guys are.

 

[yummielady]

For me, it is best for both..

 

[califwineguy]

For me, it is best for both..

I agree with Yummie... Why cant it be good for both?

(I'm also tired of all of the hostility on this thread...have a great weekend all..***** is too short)

 

[Eilan]

I agree with Yummie... Why cant it be good for both?

Thread starter aside, you're preaching to the choir here.

 

[Noor]

Yes, sex is better for women.

 

[infinity706]

I'm surprised this went through without comment. I used to think the same as this but surely after reading this forum it's more apparent that women are just as sexually interested as guys are.

Well, some women are even as sexually interested as I am. Things go quite a bit in the other direction when you're talking the women that ideally would want to get fucked 3 times a day. I've met a couple like that.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I agree with Yummie... Why cant it be good for both?

(I'm also tired of all of the hostility on this thread...have a great weekend all..***** is too short)

Life is indeed too short but for the collective sanity of other posters here, sometimes people need calling on their unmitigated BS, especially when they simply post variations on the same damn thread and wilfully ignore/attack all comments that aren't 110% in agreement with the OP.

ntf is known for throwing his toys out the pram somewhere around post 2 of any 'discussion thread' he starts. I can't think of a single regular HT poster who can countenance his ridiculous opinions, hence my astonishment that he continues to post here at all.

Hope you had a good weekend though.

 

[infinity706]

Life is indeed too short but for the collective sanity of other posters here, sometimes people need calling on their unmitigated BS, especially when they simply post variations on the same damn thread and wilfully ignore/attack all comments that aren't 110% in agreement with the OP.

ntf is known for throwing his toys out the pram somewhere around post 2 of any 'discussion thread' he starts. I can't think of a single regular HT poster who can countenance his ridiculous opinions, hence my astonishment that he continues to post here at all.

Hope you had a good weekend though.

Well, I'm pretty regular and I think he's hilarious. We need a good laugh sometimes.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Well, I'm pretty regular and I think he's hilarious. We need a good laugh sometimes.

Yeah, but just like your avatar, after a while the hilarity wears off. When you gonna get bored with it and pick something else?