Joined Blue Sky met the bedwetters!

[Saint_Ann]

Yeah, okay, no fucking shit!!!


Which one of you twats moved this turd into our cesspool?


Although I do appreciate the OP's point. I'm not surprised.

What forum does butters moderate?

 

[Wifetheif]

Look lord knows there are some unusual fetishises here. BUT if you won't even talk to someone whose fetishist you dislike. Even inform them that you will have problems with them based solely upon the fetish they choose to specialize in, what are you doing on this site? Just because I write non-con does NOT mean that I am in favor of SA or even condone it it any way shape or form. It is called fiction for a reason

 

[Wat_Tyler]

What forum does butters moderate?

Insh'Allah, none. Guess I'll have to look at the main page then.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Didn't see one . . . .


Did find this:

 

[Lazaran]

Look lord knows there are some unusual fetishist here. BUT if you won't even talk to someone whose fetishist you dislike. Even inform them that you will have problems with them based upon what another person wrote. What are you doing on this site. Just because I write non-con does NOT mean that I am in favor of SA or even condone it!

I’ve always found that non-con (no matter how artfully it is written) has a creepy, groomer undertone / subtext that could be interpreted as planting the thought in the head of impressionable young males and females (and some older individuals) that it (non-con) might be something they want to "explore" in real life.

It’s probably the most off putting genre in erotic writing - though it can obviously be "stimulating" due to the powerful imagery and appealing (to some minds) scenarios it presents.

It is dangerously appealing (imho) to young men who are struggling with relationships and young women who have self worth issues.

A compellingly written (detailed) non-con story could be THE motivating factor in an actual non-con event in real life. A literal recipe / blueprint for disaster.

I wouldn’t expect erotic non-con writers and their stories to be welcome in most venues outside of their defined category at Lit, etc. It seems naive / unrealistic to expect otherwise, and it seems unfair to expect others to accept erotic non-con in a larger general public forum.

JMTCW.

 

[Wifetheif]

I’ve always found that non-con (no matter how artfully it is written) has a creepy, groomer undertone / subtext that could be interpreted as planting the thought in the head of impressionable young males and females (and some older individuals) that it (non-con) might be something they want to "explore" in real life.

It’s probable the most off putting genre in erotic writing - though it can obviously be "stimulating" due to the powerful imagery and appealing (to some minds) scenarios it presents.

It is dangerously appealing (imho) to young men who are struggling with relationships and young women who have self worth issues.

A compellingly written (detailed) non-con story could be THE motivating factor in an actual non-con event in real life. A literal recipe / blueprint for disaster.

I wouldn’t expect erotic non-con writers and their stories to be welcome in most venues outside of their defined category at Lit, etc. It seems naive / unrealistic to expect otherwise, and it seems unfair to expect others to accept erotic non-con in a larger general public forum.

JMTCW.

Do murder mysteries inspire murder? In terms of non-con, mainstream novels are more of a problem. There have been real abductions and killings tied to the critically acclaimed John Fowles novel, "The Collector." One serial killer used it as a how to manual and dubbed his plan to abduct a woman "Operation Miranda" after the heroine of the novel. That book is still sold and taught in English classes. Should it be? I'm not publishing step by step abduction manuals. Most of my stories involve people being compelled to go beyond themselves. Quite often, it involves the character's secret desire or fetish that was out of reach before their circumstances changed. Conservative Christian couples led to the darker side and out of their whitebread suburban lives It's a Lou Reed song in narrative form. I DO oppose serious SA presentations in my fiction because I find it horrid and don't get off on it. AND Those stories have nothing to do with my romances, hot wife, fantasies or fetish tales. Writing something in NO WAY implies I identify with that behavior. I don't actually have to poison someone to write about a successful poisoner. I can despise coercion but use it for dramatic effect. EVERY fetish has its potentially sordid real-world parallel.

 

[Lazaran]

Do murder mysteries inspire murder? In terms of non-con, mainstream novels are more of a problem. There have been real abductions and killings tied to the critically acclaimed John Fowles novel, "The Collector." One serial killer used it as a how to manual and dubbed his plan to abduct a woman "Operation Miranda" after the heroine of the novel. That book is still sold and taught in English classes. Should it be? I'm not publishing step by step abduction manuals. Most of my stories involve people being compelled to go beyond themselves. Quite often, it involves the character's secret desire or fetish that was out of reach before their circumstances changed. Conservative Christian couples led to the darker side and out of their whitebread suburban lives It's a Lou Reed song in narrative form. I DO oppose serious SA presentations in my fiction because I find it horrid and don't get off on it. AND Those stories have nothing to do with my romances, hot wife, fantasies or fetish tales. Writing something in NO WAY implies I identify with that behavior. I don't actually have to poison someone to write about a successful poisoner. I can despise coercion but use it for dramatic effect. EVERY fetish has its potentially sordid real-world parallel.

My post said what it said.

I stand by it. (Not really looking for a debate.)

Some words / subjects hold more power, and thus are potentially more dangerous. And with power comes responsibility.(Your John Fowler example didn’t really help your cause, imho)

Maybe confine your non-con writing (and your advocacy / defense of it) to Lit’s dedicated forum and don’t promote it in a more "PC" general public online forum, such as BlueSky, with its general (all ages) audience???



Again, JMTCW.

 

[Wifetheif]

My post said what it said.

I stand by it. (Not really looking for a debate.)

Some words / subjects hold more power, and thus are potentially more dangerous. And with power comes responsibility.(Your John Fowler example didn’t really help your cause, imho)

Maybe confine your non-con writing (and your advocacy / defense of it) to Lit’s dedicated forum and don’t promote it in a more "PC" general public online forum, such as BlueSky, with its general (all ages) audience???



Again, JMTCW.

It was in the LITEROTICA FORUM PAGE ON BLUESKY! They identified themselves as an L.com writer first and asked ME what category I specialized in.If you were asked a question wouldn't you answer it honestly? What if they had the SAME reaction if I said I write Female Domination instead? Their reacion is immature at best reactionary at worst. in NO WAY is it a normal or understandable reaction

 

[Wifetheif]

Words only have the power we as a society give them. They have no power on their own. WHO decides what words have power? Usually it is the rightwing censors and killjoys who decide the power of a particular word. Great company you are including yourself with.

 

[Politruk]

How is this political? We have a whole section for non-consent stories -- nobody is censoring those, nor the incest stories.

 

[Wifetheif]

You critisized my mentioning "The Collector" yet you cawardly REFUSED to state whether it should still be taught in school and sold. BRAVE MAN! You KNOW censorship is wrong. Unless you don't like the message then censorship is fine. That's what you wanted to say but lack the balls to.

 

[Lazaran]

It was in the LITEROTICA FORUM PAGE ON BLUESKY! They identified themselves as an L.com writer first and asked ME what category I specialized in.If you were asked a question wouldn't you answer it honestly? What if they had the SAME reaction if I said I write Female Domination instead? Their reacion is immature at best reactionary at worst. in NO WAY is it a normal or understandable reaction

My original post said what it said.
My follow up post said what it said.

I stand by both.

Would I answer honestly if someone asked me what genre I wrote??? Sure. And I sure as hell wouldn’t have been shocked or surprised if I had answered as you obviously did, and then received a less than welcome response.

Let me repeat: Non-con is a touchy (non-PC) subject, and erotic non-con has a creepy groomer vibe no matter how it is written.

The fact that it was confined to the “LITEROTICA FORUM PAGE IN BLUE SKY” is noted, but doesn’t change the main point about non-con being NSFPC.

I would also submit that a non-con story presented as a cautionary tale / "thriller" in fiction or true crime is a whole different animal than a story where non-con is glorified / glamorized / romanticized / normalized.

Again: JMTCW.

 

[Lazaran]

You critisized my mentioning "The Collector" yet you cawardly REFUSED to state whether it should still be taught in school and sold. BRAVE MAN! You KNOW censorship is wrong. Unless you don't like the message then censorship is fine. That's what you wanted to say but lack the balls to.

Relax.

Your level of defensiveness and aggression is not a good look.

Multiple posts suggests you are waaaaay too invested in what the person on BlueSky said or what I said.

I was just giving my opinion / point of view.

 

[Wifetheif]

My original post said what it said.
My follow up post said what it said.

I stand by both.

Would I answer honestly if someone asked me what genre I wrote??? Sure. And I sure as hell wouldn’t have been shocked or surprised if I had answered as you obviously did, and then received a less than welcome response.

Let me repeat: Non-con is a touchy (non-PC) subject, and erotic non-con has a creepy groomer vibe no matter how it is written.

The fact that it was confined to the “LITEROTICA FORUM PAGE IN BLUE SKY” is noted, but doesn’t change the main point about non-con being NSFPC.

I would also submit that a non-con story presented as a cautionary tale / "thriller" in fiction or true crime is a whole different animal than a story where non-con is glorified / glamorized / romanticized / normalized.

Again: JMTCW.

Some aspect of Non-con is an element in potentially EVERY Literotica category. The whole romantic trope of enemies to friends begins as a sort of non-con even if is the question of an (unwanted?) hand hold. Opposites attract stories have non-con elements. Any transition that goes from "I want nothing to do with you to I love you more than life itself" began as an unwanted relationship where consent would be suspect. Mannikin fiction? Mannikins can't consent. Hot wives? willing consent of the wife is the issue. Gay? Lesbian? Fan fiction? Questionable consent is a hallmark of these adventures. The soap opera "General Hospital" had a woman marry her rapist/stalker and the wedding was hailed as the romantic event of the year. In short sir, you are a hypocrite!

 

[Wifetheif]

Relax.

Your level of defensiveness and aggression is not a good look.

Multiple posts suggests you are waaaaay too invested in what the person on BlueSky said or what I said.

I was just giving my opinion / point of view.

You imply that my fiction inspires real world copycats without ever having a word of my fiction and then act surprised when I am defensive? What evidence do you have that MY fiction inspires the knuckle draggers? Oh that's right you have no evidence just a suspicion. Would I be justified in believing that every writer of cheating wife fiction is a limp-dicked loser who can't keep a hold of a woman? You accused ME with NO evidence of being creep/groomer adjacent. What wonderful insight you have. You should analize every Lit.com poster based upon their fiction! In the real world I'm an award winning nonfiction writer who has contributed to about a dozen nonfiction works. WHAT does that tell you? You are veering very close to slander.

 

[Lazaran]

Some aspect of Non-con is an element in potentially EVERY Literotica category. The whole romantic trope of enemies to friends begins as a sort of non-con even if is the question of an (unwanted?) hand hold. Opposites attract stories have non-con elements. Any transition that goes from "I want nothing to do with you to I love you more than life itself" began as an unwanted relationship where consent would be suspect. Mannikin fiction? Mannikins can't consent. Hot wives? willing consent of the wife is the issue. Gay? Lesbian? Fan fiction? Questionable consent is a hallmark of these adventures. The soap opera "General Hospital" had a woman marry her rapist/stalker and the wedding was hailed as the romantic event of the year. In short sir, you are a hypocrite!

Rationalizing… I forgot rationalizing….

Seriously, you’re grasping now…

“General Hospital”???

 

[Wifetheif]

nd You by accusing me WITHOUT evidence of being creep/groomer adjacent are verring very close to slander. Much of my nonconsent ends in woman empowerment. BUT yiou don't know that because your mind is made up. I have had women contact me telling me that they love my stories and identify with my heroines. BUT that also doesn't matter to you since your mind is closed.