Landmines you should avoid in a category

[Djmac1031]

Story title: Mom's Poophole Loophole

Make this happen. Please. I beg you.

 

[8letters]

Anal in a Mom / Son incest story.

Apparently this is huge no no.

Perfectly fine to fuck your own mother.

But butt stuff is icky.

I think this is an urban legend. If you click on the "Mother" tab in I/T, "Anal" is the 13th most common secondary tag. Most of the ones above it are to be expected in a mother-son story - "Son", "Incest", "MILF", "Mom", "Taboo", "Mother son incest", "Older woman", "Mother son sex", "Younger man". Looking at the stories with both the "Mother" and "Anal" tags, I see mostly red H's.

"Impregnation" is way down the list of tags occurring with "Mother".

I agree with LC68 that noncon is unpopular. Similarly, I think full-blown BDSM is unpopular. Mild BDSM like spanking and hair-pulling is fine.

MM sex is unpopular. FF is sex is very popular if it's part of a MFF threesome. I don't know if female-only stories would be unpopular, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Watersports is unpopular. I'd guess a lot of fetishes would be unpopular.

 

[countdowntolov3]

BDSM - There is a vocal (and voting) portion of the readership who believe stories there should demonstrate responsible BDSM play. Safe words, SSC, etc. In my experience you can dodge some of this with a disclaimer (There characters think they're doing BDSM, but they're not. This story is not meant to portray a healthy BDSM relationship.) But based on the comments I see on my stories and others, you'd be wise to show a BDSM dynamic that reads as responsible if you want to chase the high score.

 

[alohadave]

Make this happen. Please. I beg you.

I have a story that I think I can rework for this.

 

[Kasumi_Lee]

Anal in a Mom / Son incest story.

Apparently this is huge no no.

Perfectly fine to fuck your own mother.

But butt stuff is icky.

This never occurred to me when I posted my debut incest story, but that's fine since I'm not a fan of butt stuff, either.

 

[lovecraft68]

On the flip-side though, incest in non con does fairly well.

Go figure, right?

 

[lovecraft68]

BDSM - There is a vocal (and voting) portion of the readership who believe stories there should demonstrate responsible BDSM play. Safe words, SSC, etc. In my experience you can dodge some of this with a disclaimer (There characters think they're doing BDSM, but they're not. This story is not meant to portray a healthy BDSM relationship.) But based on the comments I see on my stories and others, you'd be wise to show a BDSM dynamic that reads as responsible if you want to chase the high score.

Thing is safe and sane are fluid, my idea of either might not be your idea. As long as the people involved are aligned have at it. Consent is needed and not just BDSM, but anywhere. Without consent you have rape and there's a category for that.

I'm one of the readers-well when I bothered there-who would call out the people posting rape and abuse stories and calling it BDSM. I live the lifestyle, so I find it offensive when its portrayed as rape. Otherwise, whatever.

 

[lovecraft68]

Anal in a Mom / Son incest story.

Apparently this is huge no no.

Perfectly fine to fuck your own mother.

But butt stuff is icky.

I mostly agree, but this is lit so...here's a story for this.

Last year I took something previously published elsewhere and put it here in a contest. In the original, there is an anal scene at the end. In this one, I cut that part out and had the story end with the softer scene. However, at one point earlier in the story the mother made a comment about anal sex...once, and not even in reference to the son.

Sure enough I get a comment "wish you'd delivered on the anal."

Understand, it is nigh impossible to completely win with anything here.

 

[samhasstories]

I mostly agree, but this is lit so...here's a story for this.

Last year I took something previously published elsewhere and put it here in a contest. In the original, there is an anal scene at the end. In this one, I cut that part out and had the story end with the softer scene. However, at one point earlier in the story the mother made a comment about anal sex...once, and not even in reference to the son.

Sure enough I get a comment "wish you'd delivered on the anal."

Understand, it is nigh impossible to completely win with anything here.

Chekhov's B-hole.

 

[RetroFan]

I've said this before, but attempts to make the Incest/Taboo crowd laugh by submitting comedy stories in this category will usually fall flat, and sometimes be taken as an act of provocation. My most recent entry in IT was a 750 word story last month that was written to be so ridiculously bad it surely couldn't have been taken as anything other than a joke, but some readers thought that I was serious.

This category seems to be devoid of humour, and in a twisted sort of way its actually amusing in itself how utterly humourless some of the readers are there.

Amazingly, I've been able to make some readers laugh in Loving Wives, one saying how much s/he laughed at a scene where a male detective who is narrating the story has to buy sanitary pads for a hot wife in witness protection, but things go wrong at the supermarket and he winds up looking like some sort of pervert in the feminine hygiene products aisle. I don't think such a scene would do as well in IT.

 

[MyBareTorso]

I'm truly tempted to write one where all mom and son do is anal.

Tentative title: Nothing But The Butt For Mom

Or "Butt, Mom!", said in a whiny voice...

 

[RetroFan]

I'm truly tempted to write one where all mom and son do is anal.

Tentative title: Nothing But The Butt For Mom

I wonder how they would react if it was inverted and a pegging scene, where the Mom puts on a strap-on and fucks her son up the ass?

 

[Djmac1031]

I wonder how they would react if it was inverted and a pegging scene, where the Mom puts on a strap-on and fucks her son up the ass?

 

[Bramblethorn]

My choice is Rear ended on the highway

"Hershey Highway", surely.

 

[KeithD]

I think Romance tolerates soft porn. Many of the Hall of Fame stories aren't erotic. It feels like a story with sex inserted as afterthought. There aren't any memorable stories that are remembered for their smut as much as they're remembered for their plot.

A non-erotic/soft porn romantic story should have more plot and comedy/tragedy to keep the readers from noticing the lack of smut.

I don't see where the degree of "smut" should have a connection with whether something is a successful Romance or not. I think as long as it has plot, a connection between the primary characters is achieved, and there's a happy ending, it can be successful no matter how graphic the sex becomes. (I don't even require a happy ending to consider it in the Romance category, but I concede that most readers of Romance probably do). I just don't think it needs to be devoid or mostly lacking in graphic sex to be successful on Literotica.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Lesbian stories with a large proportion of male-female sex. This is not a category where "well some of the sex is lesbian" will fly.

Contrariwise, if you write a Lesbian story which discusses (some) men as being undesirable that can also attract complaints from insecure dudes, but I'm at peace with this.

 

[8letters]

My understanding is that Romance does not like men who cheat, and that stories where the Main Male Character cheats on his wife with the Female Narrator and they eventually fall in love get severely panned.

 

[alohadave]

Contrariwise, if you write a Lesbian story which discusses (some) men as being undesirable that can also attract complaints from insecure dudes, but I'm at peace with this.

A good portion of lesbian is men writing for men, so that tracks.

 

[lovecraft68]

I've always wanted to write 'Charlie and his Mom's Chocolate Factory.'

Only if it takes place in Hershey PA.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Avoid any kind of sex scene in non-erotic. I know the category is meant to be less focused on sex but it does say ‘Non-Erotic Sex Stories’ and this is a porn site. I assumed a light sex scene that ends before it got too erotic would be okay. I was wrong.

The first time I did this is the worst rated chapter in my series, which is now on chapter 42. The clean readers punished me. The next chapter was rejected by mods for a similarly mild and brief sex scene.

Are people agonizing over ratings? I don’t believe many are agonizing. Are they irritated that one-bombers knock their scores down? Sure. I have that problem too. You need seven fivers to offset a single one-bomb to maintain the 4.5 rating. There’s nothing we can do about that problem but that doesn’t make it less frustrating, especially when you know these pathetic cucks aren’t actually reading your work.

That said, having avoidance guidelines for categories is not a bad idea. I wish there was a soft porn category. That’s where my work would fit best.

Romance readers hate break-up scenes, so they will often ask that such things go in Non-erotic - even when it is erotic, at least in part. The most recent time I tried that, the voting was terrible. Two votes, I think.

There is another site that has many more categories. I'll have to do a count to make a comparison. (No, Lit is never going to add categories I believe.) However, there is no Non-erotic section and no Reviews and Essays. Thus my four-part (so far) series on taxi driving would likely not fit there. But Lit published them, so hey . . . Every site has its quirks and problems.

 

[gunhilltrain]

This never occurred to me when I posted my debut incest story, but that's fine since I'm not a fan of butt stuff, either.

I'm finishing my first incest story here, but it's about a step-parent. It's got some of the mom-son tropes, however, but not anal. Anyway, some people are going to say it's not incest since it's about non-biological relatives. I guess I should ponder that issue a bit.

 

[gunhilltrain]

A good portion of lesbian is men writing for men, so that tracks.

I suppose that there are no women writing gay male for other women.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm finishing my first incest story here, but it's about a step-parent. It's got some of the mom-son tropes, however, but not anal. Anyway, some people are going to say it's not incest since it's about non-biological relatives. I guess I should ponder that issue a bit.

Here's a tip with getting step-mom over better.

The taboo can still exist depending on how long she's been step mom.

If the story is dad remarries when the son is 16 and two years later the step-mom is coming on to him, its nothing more than a cougar cub story, there is no mom/son bond.

Now, make it mom leaves or passes away when the son is very young, and dad remarries when he's 4/5 years old and now he's 18 and something is happening between him and the step-mom there is some taboo because although not biological, she is mom to him, there is that bond, and a moral and emotional line that shouldn't be crossed.

Still not the same, but you can get a lot more play with it that way.

 

[PeytonMirabelle]

Romance readers hate break-up scenes, so they will often ask that such things go in Non-erotic - even when it is erotic, at least in part. The most recent time I tried that, the voting was terrible. Two votes, I think.

I had some luck placing such a story (detailing a romantic build-up w/sexy time, followed by a collapse of the relationship and a bittersweet ending) in Novels and Novellas, which--the longer I am on this site--feels like more and more of a "catch-all" category.

 

[intim8]

After reading this, it makes me want to stick to E&V. It seems like you can get away with anything in there, so long as at least one character is at some point seen naked by someone they're not having sex with.

Seriously, it seems like the closest thing we have to "Misc".