McDonald's will replace cashiers with kiosks in 2,500 restaurants

[about_average]

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Most of their outlets are franchises with different bottom lines. You have no clue what the effect would be on those outlets. McDonald's has already published a study with negative outcomes that refute your bullshit.

No doubt you can post a link to that study.

Did you really think I wouldn't notice you dodged my "question"?

 

[Conager]

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[about_average]

You have nothing to back that up.

What's the percentage change in the number of McDonald's in cities that implemented a $15/hr min?

 

[Conager]

What's the percentage change in the number of McDonald's in cities that implemented a $15/hr min?

What is the proportionate cost of living in those particular cities?

In any event, your criterion that a parasite not outright killing off the host is evidence that no harm is done is specious at best.

 

[ejredlady]

They couldn't mess the order up any worse than they already are with humans.

 

[Ishmael]

They couldn't mess the order up any worse than they already are with humans.

And robots don't cough, spit, or sneeze.

Ishmael

 

[ejredlady]

And robots don't cough, spit, or sneeze.

Ishmael

Plus they don't have a surly attitude, hair all over the place, long, nasty nails or pants below their butt crack! I vote for robots.

 

[Ishmael]

Plus they don't have a surly attitude, hair all over the place, long, nasty nails or pants below their butt crack! I vote for robots.

(pulls pants up) I'm with ya.

Ishmael

 

[HisArpy]

And robots don't cough, spit, or sneeze.

Ishmael

I'm quite sure they can be programmed to do this if you insist on it.

 

[Ishmael]

I'm quite sure they can be programmed to do this if you insist on it.

I'd like a Big Mac, fries, and a Coke. Extra oil on that Big Mac please.

Ishmael

 

[BotanyBoy]

What's the percentage change in the number of McDonald's in cities that implemented a $15/hr min?

That's a rather irrelevant standard.

The real question is how have their employment numbers per store changed?

Better yet, find out a year after they put the kiosks in, I doubt you will find they are employing the same or more people.

 

[jaF0]

Better yet, find out a year after they put the kiosks in, I doubt you will find they are employing the same or more people.

There was word not too long ago about automated burger flippers. BK uses a no-flip conveyor system. Drink machines are customer self-fill in many locations. Technically, they could get down to a per-store per-shift staff of one or two to keep the various hoppers filled and unload trucks. And go to being open 24 hours, 365 days.

 

[BotanyBoy]

There was word not too long ago about automated burger flippers. BK uses a no-flip conveyor system. Drink machines are customer self-fill in many locations. Technically, they could get down to a per-store staff of one or two to keep the various hoppers filled and unload trucks.

Oh I'm sure they are hard at it and trying to get it in the field.

All to ensure order accuracy of course!!! They would NEVER do anything to cut one of their biggest expenses. Especially one that the government plans on double or even tripling on them. No no no no, just ask a lefty and they will tell you all the emo stories needed to make sure you understand that raising prices on everyone is really GOOD for everyone and is super progressive proving that everyone loves to pay more!!

 

[jaF0]

I can even envision less than that.

Imagine a system of packaging where the truck driver(s) unload boxes that are pre-filled in such a way as to be loaded into a hopper system from outside the building. Burgers, buns, fries (in pre-measured portions) and all the other fare in bar coded boxes get routed to their proper stations by scanners not unlike current warehousing, manufacturing and postal/shipping systems. Automated systems select and open each box on a 'just-in-time' basis. Empty boxes are crushed and bailed by other machines, then put out for pickup. Or maybe a reusable container system to be picked up and reloaded.

Add in the prospect of self-driving trucks, or even (shall we use the word?) drones to load supplies from rooftop landing points.

Cleaning --- anybody remember a 'Home Improvement' episode that featured a self-cleaning kitchen? Once a night, the system would shut down, all internal compartments would open and some sort of heating or microwave system would raise the temperature to burn off all contaminants.

Everything would be monitored remotely. Maybe from .... Bangalore?

 

[about_average]

That's a rather irrelevant standard.

The real question is how have their employment numbers per store changed?

Ok, post all three numbers then.
Surely the people making the claim can back it it up with data.

Better yet, find out a year after they put the kiosks in, I doubt you will find they are employing the same or more people.

They'd be putting those in anyway and just as many people laid off, regardless of what they were being paid. Unless maybe it was $2/hr.

 

[Que]

Ok, post all three numbers then.
Surely the people making the claim can back it it up with data.


They'd be putting those in anyway and just as many people laid off, regardless of what they were being paid. Unless maybe it was $2/hr.

...as if the fact that minium wage, the floor of labor expenses, having been raised from $2 an hour has nothing to do with the fact that aminimum wage worker stocking shelves at Walmart can't stop by McDonald's on his way home for a $0.35 burger.

Why do people on the left think that immutable principles of economics are repealed when they have some social engineering idea?

 

[about_average]

...as if the fact that minium wage, the floor of labor expenses, having been raised from $2 an hour has nothing to do with the fact that aminimum wage worker stocking shelves at Walmart can't stop by McDonald's on his way home for a $0.35 burger.

Why do people on the left think that immutable principles of economics are repealed when they have some social engineering idea?

I have no idea, ask someone on the left.

 

[Que]

I have no idea, ask someone on the left.

. . .says the Sanders write-in voter.

 

[jaF0]

I'd be curious to know how many (if any) small businesses closed rather than pay the increase. Or just after, finding out they couldn't afford it after all.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Some actually relocate outside of city limits.


It's hard to prove that that would be the sole factor causing a store to go out of business. What is easily provable, logically and statistically is the effects of future job creation and the discrimination by employers against youth employment (and some even argue on minority employment, but I'm not sure I buy that argument which smacks a bit too much as political squawk to me).

 

[jaF0]

I might be inclined to switch to hiring part-time, temporary, seasonal or interns only if any of those were exempt. Six months and you're out kind of thing. Higher turnaround, but no benefits to pay and you might even find a keeper along the way you could train for management.

 

[Rightguide]

Did you really think I wouldn't notice you dodged my "question"?

Why don't you Google it yourself? It's common knowledge that was published a couple of years back. You had no clue about the percentages of franchises until I proved it to you. Why should I subsidize your ignorance. Do your own homework.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If you exempt them, how can you avoid the political fallout of "taking advantage of the young?"


I mean, I can hear the angry chants of Child Labor!...

 

[Beco]

Plus they have 89 cent pancakes and senior coffee.

Gross food,. however, I do enjoy a McDonald hamburger from time to time, and the fries....

 

[jaF0]

And just showing up in the news pages this morning:

"Seattle’s minimum-wage law is boosting wages for a range of low-paid workers, but the law is causing those workers as a group to lose hours, and it’s also costing jobs, according to the latest study on the measure passed in 2014."

"The team concluded that the second jump had a far greater impact, boosting pay in low-wage jobs by about 3 percent since 2014 but also resulting in a 9 percent reduction in hours worked in such jobs. That resulted in a 6 percent drop in what employers collectively pay — and what workers earn — for those low-wage jobs. "

http://www.seattletimes.com/business/uw-study-finds-seattles-minimum-wage-is-costing-jobs/