Mental submission

[madetotakeit]

Physical Domination is a simple concept to me. I am told to do something or something is done to me and I would do it either due to restraints or fear of punishment.

Mental domination on the other hand is harder to qualify for me. Have I experienced it? I feel very thankful that I have. For me it is not taking on the likes and dislikes He has-that seems a bit dysfunctional for me personally, I like my independence of interests. For me it is a recognition of minds. A realization that there is strength of will and of character and the ability to exert that over me. Someone that exists on many levels.

We are complex creatures. We have developed in our forms to assist in seeking out who is appropriate for us. Women have curves for a reason-round breasts signal an ability to sustain life, round hips signal the ability to carry life. Men have strong shoulders to signal they can protect and provide, the penis is proportionately larger than any other primate to signal that they can successfully impregnate. Pheromones are sent to make aware that there is sexual interest. The body recognizes that you find that person desirable by either lubricated or becoming erect.

The mind is the key to all that we are. Doe it not make sense that it would recognize in another that they are similar? For the mind that needs to submit be drawn to the mind that needs to Dominate? Mental submission is not something that can be forced. It just develops. The result is doing something even though the physical dominance aspect is not present. It isn't a reaction to simply his voice-that is infatuation, association of how he made you feel. It is however a reaction to his voice when he activates that mode-intentional or not I wouldn't know. It makes me close my eyes, take a deep breath and let the shudders travel down my spine, the pulse quickens and pupils dialate. Nothing sexual about it, more primitive. It is a major necessity for me. Don't get me wrong, physical domination is a must for me. The idea of being restrained and used, completely at the others whim is way up on my must do list! But to get there one must access it through my mind.

 

[Adakgirl]

Mental submission IS at it's very core...what makes up all submission.

 

[Caitlynne]

I'm prone to long involved answers usually, but this time I can do it in a few sentences. Mental submission is trust. The trust that allows one to surrender your mind as well as your body. At least this is what it is to me.

The mechanics of trust can vary from person to person because we all have different "trust issues", but the basics are the same. When trust is established, mental submission follows.

 

[Netzach]

I have to beg to differ on that one. There are people I trust with my life, cat, house keys, and secrets, not gonna submit to them though. It's critical, in that without that, no go, but there's other ingredients to that gumbo.

As listed prior.

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

How do you explain mental submission?

That way of instantly dropping into a different headspace.

Is it voice, a word, a single touch.

My take on mental submission is the place where one minute you are going about daily life, the next your entire focus is on your PYL.

I am not sure how to explain my view of mental submission, but I can tell you how it work for me and how it makes me feel like.

Few days ago we had a lil talk. I get hot and he had to leave for a bit. Once he come back I was calm down and felt just okay. I wasnt horny or needy anymore, I just let it go. He had me on webcam and I was smiling, I dunno why but I was. I was just happy he was around ya know. I was in normal state of mind, enjoying man I love and care for. He asked me what I am smiling about? I told him I cannot help it, that I am just happy he's there. And I was, I so enjoyed him that day. I told him I feel just nice, not horny or needy at all and that I fukin enjoy feel like that. Oh and I said I won't beg.

I wasn't bitchy or anything like that. I just wasn't horny at all and felt totally no need to beg ya know? I was honest about the way I felt. Uhm, I can just tell you I was smiling only like for 30 more seconds LOL. He took me from the normal state of mind on a place in my mind where I was crawing at his feets. In no time I felt him all over me and I felt so helplessly in need of HIM, I dunno describe the feeling. It was an incredible need he made me feel. While ago I was fuking okay, not horny at all and 30 seconds later I was crying in desperately intense need of release, in need of HIM. In need of HIM to do something with me, anything really. I didn't mind at all what he gonna do, I just begged him to do not leave me like that.

I was shaking all over my body and I coulnd't even look into the webcam as I felt his look would just kill me. I couldn't take more of HIM I really couldn't. I couldn't stay still and all I could say was "What have you done with me??"

I was okay and while after I was crying in such a helplessly need of HIM and I had to beg for it yes. I couldn't different, the need was killing me, it was eating me alive. I was whining on the very edge of orgasm just from talking to him, actualy just from him talking to me cuz I wasn't really able even spell correctly. I was lost and I needed him with all of my being. I was willing to do or take impossible for HIM in this state of mind. I was on a place where only he my Sir can take me.

For a while I felt like I don't need anyone and anything, I felt owner of myself again and I enjoyed the feeling, guess thats why I was smiling. What can I say, my Sir have remind me WHO is my owner and he reminded it to me in a way I won't forget that soon. I am still shivering when I remeber that night.

So to answear the OP I can add just this:
Mental submission for me is the way I feel when my Sir is around. It's the I feel about my Sir. It's the way my body and mind react and respond to his words and to his treating, to his wishes.

I cannot imagine he would touch my body. I have a really hard time to stand even his look, I dunno what I would do under his touch? OMG!! *whimpers*

I dunno other man who would make me feel the way my Sir does. I feel like I have invisible mark all over my body, mark of his name. I am owned by HIM and I feel it with every cell in my body. At times when it seems like I have forget whos my owner it takes him just few seconds to remind me whos I am and where my place is. It's right at his feets and he sees to it that I remeber it very well.

I never gave anyone so much of power over myself, but I love giving it all to HIM. I know I am in good hands and I know I will never get enough of my caring Sir.

 

[Caitlynne]

I have to beg to differ on that one. There are people I trust with my life, cat, house keys, and secrets, not gonna submit to them though. It's critical, in that without that, no go, but there's other ingredients to that gumbo.

As listed prior.

Oh I agree. I didn't mean to imply that there weren't other things, nor that we all submit to everyone we trust. Plus I think trust operates differenlty depending on role [D/s].

But from my POV, I could have all the other things going on but without trust, mental submission isn't going to happen for me. I'll remain independent in the deeper parts of my head. IMHO mental submission requires a certain dependent mind set.

My comments were actually inspired by something you wrote...

. 1. the elaborate and insane architectural feat of making a foundation so secure and expansive that I actually feel safe to try anything - me, ms. look both ways always.

That described trust to me--or at least the circumstances I've encountered where I was mentally submissive with a look alone. Maybe I didn't explain myself well.

LOL, Maybe I should have stuck to my usual essay length answers.

Edited to add: You know I don't know about anyone else, but I make a distinction between mental submission and the ability of a Dominant to take me from zero to sixty sexually with a look or a tone of voice. For me, that's not mental submission, that's training. Delicious of course, but still it's a matter of training in physical responses. Voice training falls into this category along with the responses you can train in to a lot of different types of play. It becomes almost pavlovian, the voice or look a trigger to a certain response. It's more instinctual that what I consider mental submission.

[gee, I should have taken more time to think about this the first time.] Mental submission to me can have the same pathology as zero to sixty sexuality with a look, but instead of it being physical it is mental and can be applied to a much larger range of activities. In my opinion, with mental submisison the mind obeys almost the same way the body can have a triggerewd a sexual response. One is mental, the other physical.

Just thought I'd add that.

 

[Netzach]

Oh I agree. I didn't mean to imply that there weren't other things, nor that we all submit to everyone we trust. Plus I think trust operates differenlty depending on role [D/s].

But from my POV, I could have all the other things going on but without trust, mental submission isn't going to happen for me. I'll remain independent in the deeper parts of my head. IMHO mental submission requires a certain dependent mind set.

My comments were actually inspired by something you wrote...



That described trust to me--or at least the circumstances I've encountered where I was mentally submissive with a look alone. Maybe I didn't explain myself well.

LOL, Maybe I should have stuck to my usual essay length answers.

They're usually pretty stellar.

Yes, trust to the point of total lack of inhibition is really the key thing. Then there's the fact that they have to be sexy and authoritative in some way that reads as authoritative to you - it doesn't have to make sense to the rest of the world.

 

[Caitlynne]

They're usually pretty stellar.

Thank you Netzach.

Yes, trust to the point of total lack of inhibition is really the key thing. Then there's the fact that they have to be sexy and authoritative in some way that reads as authoritative to you - it doesn't have to make sense to the rest of the world.

Exaclty!

 

[Blushing Bottom]

First off I'll admit though I have read several posts in this thread, I have not read all so I do hope I'm not mimicking the thoughts of another.

IMHO "mental submission" can be related to Classic Conditioning, the Pavlovian dog theory. For those who don't know the theory is that if you associated a reward with a stimuli the subject will respond to the stimuli in the prescribed manner...ring a bell and give a dog food. The dog learns he is to be rewarded each time he hears the bell and he salivates as dog may want to do knowing food is coming.

On the same token words and touches as shy has described here can certainly elicit the desired responses the submissive has been conditioned to understand that those particular stimuli will be followed by reward...an orgasm...mouth full of cock...or perhaps a flogging....whatever.

In short shy...yes one can instantly fall into a subspace like response to certain stimuli and yes it do take trust to allow someone to condition one so but it happens every day and in many scenarios. You see the boss coming and immediately your work efforts improve...go figure.

How do you explain mental submission?

That way of instantly dropping into a different headspace.

Is it voice, a word, a single touch.

My take on mental submission is the place where one minute you are going about daily life, the next your entire focus is on your PYL.