My girlfriend likes me to choke her....

[switchbitch]

How long is a "touch too long?" Here's a link to a web site that says the human brain can live with no damage for up to a minute with no oxygen: http://www.med.umich.edu/trans/transweb/faq/q3.shtml.

Now, I do realize this is dangerous. How dangerous? Let's get some perspective: More dangerous than driving while intoxicated? That's something that happens every night on every major highway in this country. More dangerous than texting while driving? Again, happens all the time. More dangerous than taking a shower at home? Tens of thousands of people die in the shower every year. Hell, every year over 400 people die from accidental CO poisoning, probably from using a barbecue grill in the house.

Thank you for your concern. I'll try to be careful.

hi Ekserb,
comparing a deliberate action where you are using extremely dangerous techniques is hardly gaining perspective when compared with disastrous accidents. Of course there are many things that we do that are dangerous and of course accidents can happen no matter what we do but choosing to play safe minimises some of the risks. Please don't think that I don't like to play hard because I do, often using extremely risky behaviour and of course that is my choice just as this is yours, however educated risks are very different to risks taken without sufficient information. In one of your earlier posts you suggested that it was only interrupting blood flow. As the previous poster said this is far more dangerous.the brain receives oxygen via the blood directly.Stopping the oxygen supply to the lungs on the other hand takes some time before it can affect the brain because the blood supply in the body is already holding oxygen. The Link that you used does not support your case well either although personally I find that link to be only reasonable not perfectly accurate. As it says in your link after one minute brain cells begin to die, but survival is possible (possible not even guaranteed for one minute). But there is a further issue that you don't appear to be taking into account when pressure is placed over the major blood supply to the brain it also presses on three nerve clusters. These nerve clusters if cramped for even one second too long can prevent blood flow starting again easily this is why some martial arts moves involving the side of the hand to the side of the neck can kill instantly. None of us are saying don't enjoy what you are doing we are merely suggesting that you make yourself as informed as possible so that the risks you take are relatively safe.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Oh, nevermind.

 

[Ekserb]

None of us are saying don't enjoy what you are doing we are merely suggesting that you make yourself as informed as possible so that the risks you take are relatively safe.

Again, thank you for your concern.

 

[Artina Heartflash]

I think I'll go put an ad for a serious Tantra partner.

 

[midwestyankee]

I think I'll go put an ad for a serious Tantra partner.

Don't hold your breath waiting for a serious reply.

 

[Kojote]

I think everybody here knows that nothing done in these circumstances is literal. Of course, there is something wrong with me. Her, too. We joke about our mutual illness all the time.

Before I met this girl, I was never into this. I never even thought about it. I was always into slightly restraining my partner by holding her by the neck as we kissed, but that was about it. Now one of my concerns is what I will do when she and I stop dating. Who am I going to find to replace her? Will I be able to go back to "normal" sex if I can't find someone else who is into this? Will Dark Phil suffer withdrawal symptoms?

Um...
Yes he will.
In fact you will almost certainly never lose this 'side of your personality’ again. And if you try to suppress it there will be times, when it 'raises its nasty head'.

But there’s nothing wrong and nothing ill with it, if you don’t convince yourself that there is.
It can be more like exploring depths of your own personality lots of people never find out they even have in them.
Think of it as if it is some kind of strange ‘knowledge’. Like when you find out that your favorite food contains something you always found disgusting. You’ll never be able to eat it again without knowing that. But then again maybe it’s not as vile as you thought if something really good can’t be made without.
Understand what I mean?

Try to come to terms with it.
Try to accept that Mr. Dark and Mr. Nice are in fact one and the same. There can never be a really nice person without some really dark traits buried deep inside. But from accepting and exploring the darker sides without surrendering completely to them comes great strength.
Just never shut down your brain and draw lines you never allow yourself to cross.


Man… Do I sound like some weird version of Yoda or what…?
Sorry for that. But… Been there, done that…

 

[Kojote]

doublepost...

 

[Ekserb]

Man… Do I sound like some weird version of Yoda or what…?
Sorry for that. But… Been there, done that…

"One and the same, Nice and Dark are. Mmmm?"

 

[Kojote]

Yeah... Kinda...
Dunno how to explain that without sounding like I'm teaching you to move four-winged planes out of a puddle of water.

Accept it. If you don't try to suppress the dark side it will top taking over control in weak moments.
And when you split up with you current gf you'll just have to find one who doesn't object to your 'new, somewhat larger self'.
No big deal, sonce you can trust me when I say that this kind of personal awareness heightens attractivity. Not to mention the general magnetism of 'dark sides'...

See?
Total win win situation.
(Yoda goes sales manager... )

 

[Ekserb]

As I've alluded to before, we sometimes start soft and progress into the rough stuff. She likes to tell me that she's been missing Nice Phil, asking if we can do some cuddling and making out instead of having sex. I'm totally open to this, even though I know how it always ends....

About ten minutes in, as we're having "normal" sex, she'll squeeze her legs together and force me out of her as she pushes me away with her hands. She has told me that she loves the look that comes across my face when this happens. She describes this look as a "how dare you push me off, you fucking cunt" look ... and then it's on. Dark Phil comes on fast and hard and the slapping, the cursing, the throat-fucking, the name-calling, the punishment, begins.

I have to admit, I thoroughly enjoy that transition from Nice to Dark. It's fun!

 

[curvygirlfl69]

"Flailing arms"?? Seriously? tsk tsk.

There is a solution to your worries about "replacing" me... don't try...just keep me.

 

[Ekserb]

"Flailing arms"?? Seriously? tsk tsk.

There is a solution to your worries about "replacing" me... don't try...just keep me.

We'll see, sweetie.

 

[curvygirlfl69]

As I've alluded to before, we sometimes start soft and progress into the rough stuff. She likes to tell me that she's been missing Nice Phil, asking if we can do some cuddling and making out instead of having sex. I'm totally open to this, even though I know how it always ends....

About ten minutes in, as we're having "normal" sex, she'll squeeze her legs together and force me out of her as she pushes me away with her hands. She has told me that she loves the look that comes across my face when this happens. She describes this look as a "how dare you push me off, you fucking cunt" look ... and then it's on. Dark Phil comes on fast and hard and the slapping, the cursing, the throat-fucking, the name-calling, the punishment, begins.

I have to admit, I thoroughly enjoy that transition from Nice to Dark. It's fun!

That look on your face at that moment is so hot, it is probably one of the many reasons I do it.

 

[partsecond]

I always get nervy when breath play is talked about as something in which people actively participate just because I don't believe there's a safe way to do it.
I love having a strong hand grip my throat, but not to the extent that breathing is severely restricted to the point of passing out.

Maybe Dark Phil just needs to set himself some boundaries. Rough sex can be amazing, but it's not worth risking yourself or your partner for

"breath play" is not z term I have heard before.

 

[Ekserb]

By the way, ladies and gentlemen, curvygirlfl69 is my girlfriend and the girl I was talking about when I started this thread.

 

[TrinityBlaine]

Be careful.
I love being choked too but if my boyfriend ever caused me to pass out, even for a few seconds I would be kind of freaked out.

Me and your girlfriend have quite a lot in common sexually though.

 

[Ekserb]

Be careful.
I love being choked too but if my boyfriend ever caused me to pass out, even for a few seconds I would be kind of freaked out.

Me and your girlfriend have quite a lot in common sexually though.

Oh, we were a little freaked out. It hasn't recurred, but only because I'm very conscious of what I'm attempting to do. In that case, I was trying to get her to pass out. When it happened, it wasn't exactly what I expected.

 

[Stella_Omega]

That look on your face at that moment is so hot, it is probably one of the many reasons I do it.

omigod you are awesome!

 

[kellyz_craic]

I totally do this. The only times I let rip and argue with him are almost always because I'm goading. I wouldn't dare try pushing him out of me though, I'd have to be suicidal.

... of course now I want to try it. You're a bad influence curvygirl!

 

[Ekserb]

Update: Now we've progressed to fist rape and anal fucking. And flogging. Hard.