New Jersey stands tall against the book banning lunatics

[PaxNurgle]

^EXACTLY!!

Nobody but NOBODY is arguing that they ought to allow Hustler, Xhamster, or Extreme Bondage XXX Porn type stuff to be read to kindergardeners, or even high schoolers! EVERYONE agrees on this. This isn't the issue, however.

The problem is, what they consider "porn" is not porn at all- in many cases it isn't the least bit erotic.

How, exactly, is reading a book with a gay character "Grooming?" or "Pedophilia?" It's just fucking not.

 

[Politruk]

How, exactly, is reading a book with a gay character "Grooming?" or "Pedophilia?" It's just fucking not.

And what's "grooming" anyway?

 

[UltraChad]

And pedophilia has no relevance to any of this.

I'm sure the pedos have nothing to do with the total nuclear meltdown into screeching demands for hardcore porno in K-5th classrooms.......

 

[Politruk]

I'm sure the pedos have nothing to do with the total nuclear meltdown into screeching demands for hardcore porno in K-5th classrooms.......

Of course pedos have nothing to do with something that is not happening.

 

[glamorilla]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1869525383542153365

 

[PaxNurgle]

Granted, there are some books read by high schoolers that do, in fact, have some, well, "problematic" scenes in them.

We were assigned one such book as seniors in high school. It was called "The Painted Bird." Lets just say it was pretty graphic- torture, bestiality, rape, a guy being eaten alive by a pack of rats- all of that was in there and more. This was not just some mild hints and sexual innuendo, or a couple of innocuous gay characters. Some of it was downright disturbing to read- and I'm not squeamish. If I remember right, we had to elect to choose this book for a class assignment, and before we began reading it, there was a verbal disclaimer about it's contents and I think our parents might even have needed to sign something.

I do know that Khalid Hussaini's "The Kite Runner" is another book that often draws the ire of censors. There is a homosexual rape scene in that one. As in, legitimate rape of a younger boy by an older boy, not just consensual sex between adults.

A couple points here: These two books are typically assigned to high school seniors,17-18 year olds, not 12-15 year olds. There is typically some kind of disclaimer that goes with these books being assigned. But most importantly, these are works of literature that have literary value to them, and neither one are purely "porn" for the sake of it. One talks about the horrors of war and being a person of color trying to survive in Eastern Europe during World War 2, the other one about Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation and the rise of the Taliban, and trying to rescue a boy trapped under that regime. And most importantly, the books being targeted are far, far more innocuous than either of the ones I just mentioned. For example, a book with a gay couple- no accounts of any "adult activity" is being labeled as "porn" and "Grooming." Because, you know, gay characters. I challenge you to read "The Painted Bird" and tell me if such a novel still makes your book-burn list.

It's the type of books being targeted for bans that are the issue here.

 

[Politruk]

^EXACTLY!!

Nobody but NOBODY is arguing that they ought to allow Hustler, Xhamster, or Extreme Bondage XXX Porn type stuff to be read to kindergardeners, or even high schoolers! EVERYONE agrees on this.

The Marquis de Sade's novels, OTOH, are serious classic literature worthy of study. They gotta be, they date from the 18th Century.

 

[glamorilla]

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