OOC for "the River Runs Red"

[yeishia]

Good questions, the answers I'm wondering about myself. I've PM'd everyone that was involved and am waiting to hear back.

Personally I want the thread to continue but do think the air needs to cleared a bit, so want to stress this...

We all are entitled to our own opinions and made a commitment to this thread and the other writers. We've also (all of us) enjoyed the thread and gave a lot of time, writing and thought to it.

That said lets keep our comments level headed and constructive. If you feel you need to voice stronger words do so via pm, unless you enjoy embarrassing yourself publicly?

I'm open for your comments in any form via any medium, nuff said

What is a PETA's hit list. please

I thought Ice post was incredible; pets and all! although not what I had expected lol!

The cats are not physical beings and so cannot be really killed

Sweet is going to go to Hell and bargain for them tying it in with something involving Talon, she seemed quite excited by the opportunity.

Shay will be pushed a little to the dark side by the event she will no longer be sitting on the fence I am thinking.

Her Nana did warn her that her sense of humor would get her into trouble one day

I must have missed something I have re read and no one seems to be voicing anything nasty via the ooc!

 

[Sweetp4u]

Nothing nasty has been said and while it was unexpected, it also opened up a good opportunity to explain just HOW lana saved Talon all those years ago. It also pushed Shay a little towards that darker side as Yeishia said, more involved with her quest to make said detective pay? It also opens up interaction between Lana and Shay, as Shay's cats are part of the witch and behaved in a manner against sanctuary rules. With the cat attacking first, some rules were broken. As were rules broken when the gun was fired and killing a being.

Allows some more snooping for Kitten. List goes on and on.

So do we need more males in here to play with? Some are more limited than others in availability to post replies, me thinks it's time differences. I did tell Yeishia we need to pull her in further some how. Whether she becomes a play toy for the killer (but not killed!) or we bring in more play toys?

Open to suggestions. Also Yeishia, do you want both familiars or one? Want them darker, changed some how, altered? Or just returned and you can morph them? Satan has a wicked sense of humor, and nothing goes easily or nicely together. So there's options there as well.

 

[yeishia]

Nothing nasty has been said and while it was unexpected, it also opened up a good opportunity to explain just HOW lana saved Talon all those years ago. It also pushed Shay a little towards that darker side as Yeishia said, more involved with her quest to make said detective pay? It also opens up interaction between Lana and Shay, as Shay's cats are part of the witch and behaved in a manner against sanctuary rules. With the cat attacking first, some rules were broken. As were rules broken when the gun was fired and killing a being.

Allows some more snooping for Kitten. List goes on and on.

So do we need more males in here to play with? Some are more limited than others in availability to post replies, me thinks it's time differences. I did tell Yeishia we need to pull her in further some how. Whether she becomes a play toy for the killer (but not killed!) or we bring in more play toys?

Open to suggestions. Also Yeishia, do you want both familiars or one? Want them darker, changed some how, altered? Or just returned and you can morph them? Satan has a wicked sense of humor, and nothing goes easily or nicely together. So there's options there as well.

Oh so many possibilities!

With regards the Panthers I would like both back please looking more or less the same, I was thinking more of personality changes given that they are now products from hell ..(maybe blood red eyes now though lol) as they are psychically connected with Shay would effect her too; maybe they push her to do wicked acts! (whether its evil, needs more savage sex, steals, causes more mischief whatever you come up with etc etc.) Sounds Sweet like you have some ideas please pm me I am very open

oooohhh what about one of them changing into a male for me hehehehe then you wouldn't have to bring me in a plaything..I could quite literally play with myself ! A joke people more or less *claps her hands at the very thought!*

The idea of being a play toy appeals too

I am open to suggestions from my wonderful co writers

Thanks Sweet!

 

[kittenofdeath]

Allows some more snooping for Kitten. List goes on and on.

Wooo, snooping! happy kitty is happy

 

[Sweetp4u]

Light hasn't had a chance to reply but managed to tell me so I am relaying the info.

Due to schedule change and work overload, he is withdrawling from this thread as it will be impossible for him to keep up with it now that he has to put in more hours at work. He did say that he enjoyed writing with all of us and all that ego stroking stuff about ya'll. I do believe if he had a suga momma he could stay and play *pout* Stupid bills anyway!

I will miss ya in here Light! But understand work and bills come first He has given me and BB permission to move Jack around as we need, or until we can find someone to take over the role. Since I am already writing a major part and BB is almost as busy as Light is, let me know if you guys n gals know of someone who can handle good ol Jack as he is

Until then I am going to move jack to a more inactive spot, hence the banishment. Give it a few days to see if we can find some more man meat! Did I say that aloud??

ANYWAY .. *sigh*



Yeishia hon? Can you give me a little list of any powers your familiars had prior? If any at all? That way I can morph them some what into a more chaotic type familiar with a more human consciousness. A yin and yang of familiars. One good and one bad, of course the bad one will be female and the good one, male. Also going to allow them transformation into human form for sexual play.

Oh make note that the female familiar is irked and any future Jack Sullivan will be tormented by her whenever her leash slackens even a little BUT remain within the rules of sanctuary. which means NO HARM DONE. No life endangerment, blood letting actions. Anything with an agressive level higher than some rough sex, its a NO NO

 

[VampiricTouch]

Okay... this might be a bit nit picky for me...
Tell me and I'll be quiet.... >.>


Sweetp - "If I had only known, I could’ve made certain those delicate beasties had not come into contact with me or Harrison and prevented this whole situation. The loss of life, no matter it’s origins, always weighted heavily on me."

I think that was meant to be Sullivan.... Harrison is still in his shower moping over circumstances he can't change.

Also another question .... If the gun is fired in the VIP of the club...

1. How does the sound carry far enough to the second (or is it 3rd) floor if the VIP room is sound proofed?

2. If the VIP room is not proofed enough and Isaac heard it upstairs, whether it's because Shay opened the door and therefore the noise gets through or what... how is the rest of the club not rioting and trying to get out of the place because someone open fired?

I understand that most people are 'under the influence' of something or another... but I doubt everyone is drunk and off their rocker, and since this is a club on the other side of the river... Those inside are all immortal of some sort, so the 'vampires have sharp hearing' doesn't really cut it....

 

[Sweetp4u]

The comment is coming from Lana. Lana and Harrison are both succubi/inccubi. It is the succubi's power that, according to Yeishia's post, drove the cats into an 'in heat' frenzy and caused all that madness. As old as Lana is, she should be well aware of what she can and cant do, power wise. Her affect on people, and now ethereal beings lol. So I am rolling with the scene and circumstances given, incorporating what has happened and using the unexpected.

The VIP room is sound proof...


edited note: Its basicly saying that if Lana had been aware these familiars roamed around alone, circumstances would've been different. Everything in sanctuary has to be controlled in order to operate smoothly. So pets wouldnt be allowed to run around unchecked, rabbid beings not allowed in, etc etc etc. Guns NOT ALLOWED *glares at Light n Kitten* bad!

 

[VampiricTouch]

kk Thank you for clarifying. Sorry for picking at your post... >.<

 

[Sweetp4u]

Its alright Pick any time you have a problem, question, or something seems fishy and odd

 

[Veroe]

kk Thank you for clarifying. Sorry for picking at your post... >.< -VT​

Picking at posts if done constructively rather than critically isn't detrimental it opens possibilities on points in a co-writer's post that may not have been clear or need to be elaborated or expanded. So keep that picky eye open VT.

Nothing nasty has been said and while it was unexpected, it also opened up a good opportunity...-Sweet​

I'm delighted that this wasn't a speed bump for the thread and everyone is ok with it. I'm also intrigued by the oppurtunity Sweet mentions-can't wait to see how it works out.

 

[yeishia]

edited note: Its basically saying that if Lana had been aware these familiars roamed around alone, circumstances would've been different. Everything in sanctuary has to be controlled in order to operate smoothly. So pets wouldnt be allowed to run around unchecked, rabbid beings not allowed in, etc etc etc. Guns NOT ALLOWED *glares at Light n Kitten* bad!

Sweetp I didn’t really assign them any powers as it had been indicated not to make my witch to powerful; beyond the fact that as familiars we are inter connected and they can become invisible.

The Panthers never leave Shaylyn’s side unless bidden to do so. They do not roam free as a rule. Rune was following Jack as she had been bidden, and Ruin followed his mate when he heard her calls of hysteria. Neither cat are/were prone to random acts of violence. His actions can be attributed to primal mating ritual rather than personal bias.

I love your idea for the twins, attribute them with whatever you feel will be useful re powers abilities etc.

Now to my next post.... I am having a bit of difficulty and would appreciate some input.

When a witch looses her familiars it will also deeply affect her, sometimes even resulting in her death. Shay had two such familiars........

I indicated in my last post that something had gone wrong with Shay in that she was unable to find their essence to re-summon them herself.

(Putting myself in the head of Shay) As for cleaning up the mess she would normally use a spell which I doubt she will be able to do, so the alternative is to clean the room manually which I doubt she will be physically or mentally be able to do
so I am thinking she will remove herself back to her original hotel. Which will leave her defenseless……..

What think you all!

 

[VampiricTouch]

I'm also expecting them to be able to apparate (? Is that the word for being able to appear and disappear from a location?) Since one of her kitties was able to get into the VIP room when the door was locked.

Edit: As for cleaning... Cat urine in carpet?? *cringe* Maybe a maid could uh... help steam clean it? and hand Shay the cleaning bill?

As for the body of the kitties, if they were not of this earth to begin with, it would stand to reason that their corpses wouldn't remain long in this earth either? So after a few minutes they'd turn to ash in her hands? That would make it much easier to clean with a vacuum cleaner! Or well... she could always gather the ash and be sentimental I suppose. It also means the blood stains and gore would go away and not stain Lana's carpet...

And while I'm at it ... Is the VIP room on the club floor (1st?) or is it on the second floor where all the rooms are at? If I remember correctly, the third floor is Lana's penthouse?

 

[Sweetp4u]

hmm well that can be a conflict and even be something that pushes Shay a little further towards pissed off instead of depressed? As for the familiars roaming loose, that was what I had lana assume with the unknown origins of their relationship. That Lana trusted Shay to keep her familiars with her and in line at all times. To find them without Shay and causing trouble broke that trust, made Lana wonder what else Shay does to invade privacy? That is where I was headed with that angle.

I dont think that Shay should be completely helpless with no magic due to their loss. Maybe weaker, and less controllable magic but not helpless. But the few witch things ive read, a familiar was a guide and council to help the witch learn and achieve, not the very essence of her powers.

I am still trying to get my brain working, long sleepless night. Did what I say make sense?

 

[VampiricTouch]

.... If the gun is fired in the VIP of the club...

1. How does the sound carry far enough to the second floor if the VIP room is sound proofed?

2. If the VIP room is not proofed enough and Isaac heard it upstairs, whether it's because Shay opened the door and therefore the noise gets through or what... how is the rest of the club not rioting and trying to get out of the place because someone open fired?

I understand that most people are 'under the influence' of something or another... but I doubt everyone is drunk and off their rocker, and since this is a club on the other side of the river... Those inside are all immortal of some sort, so the 'vampires have sharp hearing' doesn't really cut it....

Alright... well I'm still waiting on a reason from Kitten as to why he was privy to the gunshot in Lana's sound proofed VIP room. (or unless someone else can fill me in on why)

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On a whole other note... I am so impressed by Sweetp, and Veroe's writing... I'm suddenly feeling very small and outclassed and wondering how in the world I got taken on board this extremely big and fancy train.

(and I'm suddenly itching to slap Harrison and tell him to wake up and move on)

 

[Sweetp4u]

HERE HERE! You said it sister! Slap harrison hard for me too, k? Right on the ass *grin*



No reason to be impressed hon, I had this worked out and history plotted with BB a few weeks back and had all that time for that post history to develope into what you see there. Then I filtered it through Veroe and BB one last time to make sure it is all accurate, approved and submission worthy. ( he didnt like edgar being used again lol) 6 damn pages in word perfect and nearly three hours to get it written out right and still feels like I coulda done more. Then you'd hate me and not read it because its long winded and boring.. So.. lol

But, it is very important stuffs Also, you have full creative freedom. Got an idea to burrow into it deeper? Let BB know, or whomever you might wish to include in the past. One thing about Lit i like, making it up as we go along, and if can change at ANY time

 

[Sweetp4u]

as for kitten's oopsie (and he is really talented too when he can get time) I think that it was because the door was open or wasnt specified to being shut? and it made a ton of noise.

So the club SHOULD be rioting (bcuz someone else opened my club doors without asking ) technically the club wasn't supposed to open for a few more hours when all this stuff is taking place. waking up time is roughly sunset range, or in this case about 5 to 6 pm. Time to shower, change, eat and refresh for the busy night ahead. The club isnt supposed to open to the public until 9pm to 10pm. but we're not using time in posts, vague stuff mostly. Hence all the issues cropping up in posts

i think we'll get it worked out and bribe Kitten with some snacks or petting.. or something wicked he wants to edit it out that he heard it. Maybe turn kitten into a familiar... *grin* He is going to shoot me next if I keep it up

 

[VampiricTouch]

okay.... so Talon swaps with Lilly in order to save her.... and then Lana's baby pays for Talon's life to be saved.... so why is Lilly still dead? or does Lana's baby nullify the prior argument?

EDIT- So... Do we want a rioting club? or do we want Isaac to have heard the commotion? Which version are we working with? So I can figure out how to respond....

 

[yeishia]

VT, Shay left the door wide open when she barreled through it.

Perhaps the floor itself is sufficiently soundproofed (through floors) that the noise will remain contained on the second floor?

O.M.G. Sweet I loved your post....a baby!

 

[Sweetp4u]

Talon made a deal, his life in exchange for Lily's and Lana didnt know about Lily even being out there.

Lana made an exchange for Talon's life/soul, and since Talon didn't pay for Lily's life with his, Hades gets to keep Lily's too.

Since lily was about to die, and there is no longer a deal for her, she faced the sun and died. Free will, her choice, fate, destiny. Something

He got a freebie there.

can go ahead and write up a freaked out club and chaos if you like, though the immortals in the joint (bar tender, bouncers, misc staff) can keep shit from getting too far out of control. It's easy to explain Lana not being aware of it, she just basicly ran from a room to her office to shake two dead souls, also the fact that when a gun is fired near by, ur ears can ring for hours afterwards. work?

Ty Yeishia He isnt a baby any more

 

[DarkEmpress]

That was truly an amazing post SweetP.

I feel so bad for Lana. That's a terrible price to pay.

 

[Veroe]

On a whole other note... I am so impressed by Sweetp, and Veroe's writing... I'm suddenly feeling very small and outclassed and wondering how in the world I got taken on board this extremely big and fancy train.

(and I'm suddenly itching to slap Harrison and tell him to wake up and move on)-VT

Thank you for the compliment VT. But really I feel the exact same way about everyone else's work here...Like when I was reading LI's posts with Sweet's I kept thinking: "Man, compared to them I've got no idea what I'm doing even attempting Rping with people as skilled as these two."

I think it's a credit to BB that he's recruited canny veterans like Sweet, LI, DEe, and Kitty as well as eager recruits like myself, you, and Yeishia still evolving and learning to reach that same level of skill. And I'm impressed with the level of skill and confidence Yeishia's using in this from her posts in the original version I can tell she's learned alot in the short time since and has gained alot more confidence at this sort of storytelling RP. We joined up right around the same time and if I don't get my ass moving she's gonna outpace me in the learning and growing as a writer dept. She's already blowing me out of the water with somewhere around three times as many total number of posts as mine.

Oh and it may seem like BB, Sweet, and I have come up with these characters whole but don't forget that each of our characters have been ported from the original version of this thread Rui Oras. So most of the character creation has been done this time around so all we needed to do was elaborate and weave them together through PMs.

As for wanting to slap Harrison to wake him up, well that's one of the reactions I wanted to get from people when I made the character. So thanks for that too.

HERE HERE! You said it sister! Slap harrison hard for me too, k? Right on the ass *grin*



No reason to be impressed hon, I had this worked out and history plotted with BB a few weeks back and had all that time for that post history to develope into what you see there. Then I filtered it through Veroe and BB one last time to make sure it is all accurate, approved and submission worthy. ( he didnt like edgar being used again lol) 6 damn pages in word perfect and nearly three hours to get it written out right and still feels like I coulda done more. Then you'd hate me and not read it because its long winded and boring.. So.. lol

But, it is very important stuffs Also, you have full creative freedom. Got an idea to burrow into it deeper? Let BB know, or whomever you might wish to include in the past. One thing about Lit i like, making it up as we go along, and if can change at ANY time

I agree with Sweet here. Part of the fun of writing these characters is that they've lived a long time. (Sweet's and BB's much longer than Harrison) so there's alot of backstory to be mined for these characters and we're approaching the interweaving of the backstories in a spirit of comaraderie and respect that elevates the process as we come up with these crazy ideas and share them with eachother.

But if you have a crazy idea about linking with something we've done or fleshing out some of your character's backstory shoot it to one of us in a PM...for instance I'm curious about the history between Talon and Sky.

 

[Sweetp4u]

Thank you Emp and as Veroe said, I think the exact same thing . WTF am i doing in here with these guys?! I keep asking BB if he is SURE he wants me in here Everyone in here simply amazes me

Lana is no saint by far She is after all, a form of demon. Talon keeps Lana good.. well semi-good. She has her moments


Dont fret Veroe you're right up there with the rest of us If you searched my history and my writing when i started here 8 years ago you'd cringe lol I know i do! plus Ive had a good 20+ years of story telling, writing and reading every thing i came across to help fuel my imagination.. Tho BB STILL beats me at plot twists and don't even ask about Light! lol I dont have much more 'dirt' on others, I havent written much with new people in a long time. Vassal is my first thread in years with strangers Very talented strangers tho

 

[yeishia]

I think it's a credit to BB that he's recruited canny veterans like Sweet, LI, DEe, and Kitty as well as eager recruits like myself, you, and Yeishia still evolving and learning to reach that same level of skill. And I'm impressed with the level of skill and confidence Yeishia's using in this from her posts in the original version I can tell she's learned alot in the short time since and has gained alot more confidence at this sort of storytelling RP. We joined up right around the same time and if I don't get my ass moving she's gonna outpace me in the learning and growing as a writer dept. She's already blowing me out of the water with somewhere around three times as many total number of posts as mine.

Thank you so much for your kind words Veroe. However, I am feeling exactly like the same girl as in the last thread attempt, poised at my keyboard almost stupefied by the awesome talent I find myself amongst. Your posts blow my mind; you all seem so in tune interconnected somehow.

As I place my fingers on the key board they are shaking as I wonder how to form the words to try and make some sense….. To fit some how!

I am determined to learn from you all in order to become so much better at this the craft I love. This time around I remain standing my ground, trying to learn from my mistakes and blunders determined to become more than I am as a writer.

Hoping to make you all proud by not giving up, not running away! I do not aspire to greatness but I do want to improve!

 

[VampiricTouch]

OMG!!! YES!!!! I knew it!!! I saw Sweet's first post of the past and I thought it would've been reeeal interesting if.... and OMG!!!!!

(sorry I just got really excited -attempts to calm down now- )

 

[Sweetp4u]

LOL! You ok VT? Yeah my first post ruined the surprise *sigh* but you have to admit, dysfunctional family is the funnest stuff to write.

forgot to mention in my post, tho it seems lana was gone for awhile, it wasn't more than twenty minutes. I also didnt get too far into Rune and Ruin, figured we could discuss it here in OOC and determine what is and isnt allowed. Also leaves room for mishaps in story not knowing what they do.

there is something else but my brain isnt working yet, long night last night.