Possible deportation executive orders in January

[Philthy_Phil]

One of my best friends is from Mexico and he's explained that the real issue with mass illegals comes from the border leading into their country. All of South America comes running through there to make their way to the Mexico/US border and they do not have the money or manpower to close off their border.

If money and aid were given to Mexico to close it off down there-as in still let people through but only after a process-then it would fix most of the problems on this end.

Mexico will build a wall and the US will pay for it.

Sounds kinda familiar.

 

[Politruk]

Mexico will build a wall and the US will pay for it.

Sounds kinda familiar.

But this would be a wall on the Mexico-Guatemala border, so that's . . . different . . . somehow . . .

 

[Lance_Castro]

There’s Hamas tunnelers looking for work.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Yes!!! Let’s pay Mexico to build a wall!!!

That’s what Trump meant all along! He is a stable genius.

 

[Politruk]

That’s what Trump meant all along! He is a stable genius.

You mean he can be trusted to shovel out the horse dung? That's rather hard to believe. He couldn't tell it from the straw.

 

[Lazaran]

That’s what Trump meant all along! He is a stable genius.

We just didn’t understand what he "really" meant when he said “Mexico will pay for the wall”.

 

[glamorilla]

From what I've gathered they're going to go after the violent offenders first. The ones who have been repeatedly assaulting, stealing, raping, murdering us while repeatedly being freed. This also includes drug offenses, human trafficking and illegals entering the country with records. They're also going to go after the ones scamming all the various social services.

Pretty sure that's going to keep everyone's hands full for a while.

Don't worry...the lawns in Marthas Vineyard are safe.

 

[Lazaran]

From what I've gathered they're going to go after the violent offenders first. The ones who have been repeatedly assaulting, stealing, raping, murdering us while repeatedly being freed. This also includes drug offenses, human trafficking and illegals entering the country with records. They're also going to go after the ones scamming all the various social services.

Pretty sure that's going to keep everyone's hands full for a while.

Don't worry...the lawns in Marthas Vineyard are safe.

So basically ICE will be doing what they were doing under President Biden’s administration???





glamgorilla



Side question:

I suppose they’ll draft an immigration and border security bill as well???





glamgorilla

 

[glamorilla]

No.

They'll be doing what they were told not to do.

 

[Lazaran]

No.

They'll be doing what they were told not to do.

Cite.

 

[Bray123]

Why isn't the wall complete already?


Oh yes, because Steve Bannon stole the money, went to prison and Trump pardoned him.
Turned out that having the wall wasn't so important really. It was just a dog whistle to rile up all those poorly educated voters.

 

[Rebel5soul]

One of my best friends is from Mexico and he's explained that the real issue with mass illegals comes from the border leading into their country. All of South America comes running through there to make their way to the Mexico/US border and they do not have the money or manpower to close off their border.

If money and aid were given to Mexico to close it off down there-as in still let people through but only after a process-then it would fix most of the problems on this end.

Many Mexicans that were in the US illegally have returned to Mexico because of the significantly improved economic climate down there. Mexico is now the US's largest trading partner (due to Trump). But to your point, they are allowing themselves to be used as a conduit and that has to stop or be stopped.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Add to the list the elimination of "birthright citizenship." Trump has signaled he's going to force it to the SCOTUS.

 

[ll74]

Add to the list the elimination of "birthright citizenship." Trump has signaled he's going to force it to the SCOTUS.

He can try, but he will immediately be stopped in his tracks due to the Constitution.

I hear some people like that document

 

[AceDesSpades]

Add to the list the elimination of "birthright citizenship." Trump has signaled he's going to force it to the SCOTUS.

The Left has nothing to worry about because, as we have been repeatedly admonished:

Anchor Babies are a Myth​

Nothing to see here, move on...​

 

[ll74]

The Left has nothing to worry about because, as we have been repeatedly admonished:

Anchor Babies are a Myth

Nothing to see here, move on...

The Constitution is quite clear on the matter

 

[Rebel5soul]

The Left has nothing to worry about because, as we have been repeatedly admonished:

Anchor Babies are a Myth​

Nothing to see here, move on...​

And only a few hundred illegals actually crossed the border.

 

[Rebel5soul]

The Constitution is quite clear on the matter

No it isn't and that's why it's going to be challenged.

 

[AceDesSpades]

And only a few hundred illegals actually crossed the border.

and they did the work that Americans won't do and then they just went back home

 

[ll74]

No it isn't and that's why it's going to be challenged.

If you don't read it, then yes, you're correct.
If you do read it, then no

AMENDMENT XIV

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Deportations per term under Obama, Trump, and Biden have ranged between around 1.5 million and 3 million with Obama leading the pack.

I’m not sure what number of deportations is necessary to achieve “mass deportation” status, but we’re certainly not going to see anything close to deportation of all of the estimated 11 to 14 million illegal aliens in the US today. Legal and budgetary hurdles coupled with pushback from industries that rely on illegal labor will limit how many deportations actually occur over the next four years. Five million or so might be an achievable figure.

I expect the biggest benefit from President Trump’s efforts will be deterring the number of attempts to enter and stay in the country illegally.

 

[Rebel5soul]

If you don't read it, then yes, you're correct.
If you do read it, then no

"and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" That is the hinge phrase.

 

[ll74]

"and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" That is the hinge phrase.

The hinge phrase is " born or naturalized in the United States". which is why it's mentioned first.

He can challenge it and SCOTUS will tell him to fuck right off.

 

[Rebel5soul]

The hinge phrase is " born or naturalized in the United States". which is why it's mentioned first.

He can challenge it and SCOTUS will tell him to fuck right off.

The order is unimportant, the "AND" ties it all together. But maybe we should all differ to you, you being the nationally renown Constitutional scholar that you are.

 

[ll74]

The order is unimportant, the "AND" ties it all together. But maybe we should all differ to you, you being the nationally renown Constitutional scholar that you are.

Good luck on your expectations.

The words are in an order (even with the word, "and", for a reason. Else they would be reversed....and SCOTUS recognizes that. Many of their rulings rely specifically on the order of words.

People born here are citizens. Sorry that you hate that.