Rape fantasy for guys?

[RobLivesInTexas]

@RobLivesInTexas

I was going to send this to you in a private message but honestly it deserves to be seen by all, and especially those who have been sexually abused in the past like you have.

Regarding that, I never once gave it a thought that people who have endured what you have; and thus might have taken offense to my statements. I never meant any disrespect to ANYONE who endured that despicable violation. I even have ideas on how that forever should be dealt with that cannot be typed out here but let's just say it has to do with brutal vigilante justice.

I am fortunate/misfortunate myself that I have never been subjected to that but was subjected to severe physical child abuse. Having said that, being in foster care for much of my childhood I know many of my foster-siblings had to deal with such nonsense, and I am sorry an adult felt they had a right to do that to you, and others. Obvious they DON'T!

I certainly should have reconsidered the affect my wording might have on those subjected to abuse. I do apologize for my poor choice of words. Please forgive me for that blatant oversight and be assured I will keep it in mind for further replies.

Again, my apologies.

Thank you for your kindness and thoughtful words, and no, I didn't take offense. I just wanted to underscore the necessity of clear communication, even if it's not verbal. The few times I've organized a men's group, one of the clear rules I've laid out in advance and enforced is the No means No.

As I explained above, consent isn't always necessarily verbal. But a decent person will always take the stance of, if in doubt, don't do it. Otherwise, you're on the edge of becoming a monster like those who took advantage of me.

There is also the consideration of relative power and vulnerability. Someone mentioned above that true rape isn't about sex. It's about asserting power through sex. I wonder if people's "rape fantasies" may sometimes be more about submission to power more that hot sex.

My going along with a hot masseur who was making my naked body feel awfully good as he pushed beyond the professional boundaries, that was me getting horny and giving in to my last, not to his domination. I could have stopped it at any moment, although I would have had major blue balls. But I read about in some other folks' rape fantasies horrify me if they had any possibility of becoming true.

 

[Phatfeet]

But I read about in some other folks' rape fantasies horrify me if they had any possibility of becoming true.

While I understand it is easy to think this, the truth is we have to be careful with this kind of ideology. We really would go crazy if we do not take things as face-value sometimes and try to impart our experiences in trying to figure out what motivates others.

An example might be a medical diagnosis. In telling someone else who had the same thing, they suddenly go on and on about what you should do about it because they did this and that and was prescribed this medication. The truth is, how they overcame the condition might be COMPLETELY different from how you deal with it. No, the medication you were prescribed is appropriate even if it is not the same medication your friend had. But people do that; they think what they experienced is what you will experience, and that is NOT the case.

And so it is with this. While you encountered a person with nefarious motivations, others who like non-consent stories, or even write them, most likely do NOT have any ill intent within them. In fact, it is probably the exact opposite; they are overly kind.

 

[Phatfeet]

In my experience, non-consent is derived from people growing up very religious. My wife has a passion for non-consensual sex, but it is because she is very kinky, yet she was raised to suppress that. Since she cannot say “yes” due to her morality, but yet still wants to do some kinky things, in her mind if it is done to her without consent that she is not accountable for her actions. One example is “forced” nudity. She is an exhibitionist deep down inside, but can’t just do it because of how she was raised, so secretly she loves being “forced” too.

I put forced in quotations because she is never really forced. Cornered and coerced, but she knows she could always say no and I would stop taking her clothes off. But I know she loves it because she told me after the first time we tried it, she constantly masturbated to the thought of that night.

Another example of that guilt within her and how non-consent alleviates it, is in being so wanted that even as she resists, that the person cannot stop (men or women) and just take her. A lot of people get non-consent wrong because they think the person wants physical violence and that is NOT the case with my wife. They just want to be so wanted that the other person just takes them. While she does like rough sex, the truth is she constantly wants to be told during it that she is so wanted, desired, needed, etc.

For people who do not have constant guilt I realize this concept is hard to understand, but that is the problem with deep seated guilt; it is very insidious and takes over all aspects of the person life. How they cope with it (non-consent) does not really make sense, but feeling constantly guilty does not either.

Unconventional issues are going to take unconventional cures.

 

[Missmister]

I was raped in a bathouse, choked,slapped, held down by two men and fucked by so many i couldnt count. I was carried over to a sling arms tied with towells, and fucked by just about every man that walked by. For about five hours…..
Sure, i was in a bathouse, but i was only there to suck a dick.

 

[SCRob95060]

Long story short, after skinny dipping with three guys and three girls. The guy, who was clearly the leader of their group began stroking his cock, asking me if this is how I did it when I wished I was with a woman.

I was shocked and embarrassed, I had been hoping that I had a chance with one of the girls. He kept mocking me and said I should show when how I jerk off.

All this time the girls were giggling and laughing. Finally when I wouldn’t play with myself two of the guys held my arms behind my back. The other guy grabbed my penis and began stroking me.

My penis responded despite the fact that I wanted this to stop. I was furious and fighting but I couldn’t get away. The girls kept laughing. One of them talked to me saying that it feels good so let it happen.

Then I was cumming, hard, I produced more semen than usual. He kept stroking me even after I finished cumming. Everyone was laughing I was shaking, finally they let me go. There was no point to try to hit them, they were stronger and more of them.

The girls comforted me, telling me they liked how much I came and didn’t it feel good. Years later when I think about that experience, I always get a raging erection.

 

[Lori_Lux]

Consensual non consent is a turn on, but needs the basis of trust that things will stop if asked. All my hottest sessions have been right on the line of feeling uncomfortable or to humiliated.

 

[HotLoadLover]

I was raped in a bathouse, choked,slapped, held down by two men and fucked by so many i couldnt count. I was carried over to a sling arms tied with towells, and fucked by just about every man that walked by. For about five hours…..
Sure, i was in a bathouse, but i was only there to suck a dick.

I have a tough time breaking this down. It sounds very scary and infuriating.

This didn't happen to me -- but If it had, I think I'd be excited and thrilled - at least after-the-fact. My own thoughts would be "I went in there, and while I only intended to suck someone, something much grander, and much darker happened." -- and I think I'd be okay with it.

However, your description does not contain the same post-event takeaway that I think I'd have, and I'm sorry to hear you were misused and violated without consent. Hopefully this didn't severely traumatize you, but it does sound like it was a bad day for you.

 

[chapter6plan]

I have a tough time breaking this down. It sounds very scary and infuriating.

This didn't happen to me -- but If it had, I think I'd be excited and thrilled - at least after-the-fact. My own thoughts would be "I went in there, and while I only intended to suck someone, something much grander, and much darker happened." -- and I think I'd be okay with it.

However, your description does not contain the same post-event takeaway that I think I'd have, and I'm sorry to hear you were misused and violated without consent. Hopefully this didn't severely traumatize you, but it does sound like it was a bad day for you.

I think the reality of this happening would be terrifying and traumatizing. In the fantasy, they are young, handsome, and sexy as fuck. In life, they are old, ugly, and obscene, more than likely.

 

[HotLoadLover]

I think the reality of this happening would be terrifying and traumatizing. In the fantasy, they are young, handsome, and sexy as fuck. In life, they are old, ugly, and obscene, more than likely.

.... the appearance of the assailant would matter less to me than the brutality of the reality.

Being not-young and not-handsome and not-sexy-as-fuck, the appearance parts aren't highest on *MY* list of needs -- but everyone is different and it may mean everything to someone else.

 

[SPARTAN047]

I think the reality of this happening would be terrifying and traumatizing. In the fantasy, they are young, handsome, and sexy as fuck. In life, they are old, ugly, and obscene, more than likely.

You've described most real rapes exactly.

I don't mind anyone more mature and less attractive as long as they were nice to me outside the bedroom.

 

[RobLivesInTexas]

You've described most real rapes exactly.

I don't mind anyone more mature and less attractive as long as they were nice to me outside the bedroom.

The rapist doesn't have to be mean or cruel. It may be simply a matter of power over weakness. Most actual rapes have little or nothing to do with sex but are really about power. I was molested as a boy, first by older brothers, later by an employee of a men's clothing store. He was not "old" but was certainly older than my 14 years at the time. Another example, which I had forgotten about until just now, was a time when I willingly met a man, again, not really old but older than my 20 or so years. We met in a park at night for sex, but I thought it was going to be oral only. He preyed on my youth and horniness to coerce me into letting him fuck me. I was totally unprepared, physically and emotionally, for being penetrated the first time, but he took my anal virginity that night. No seduction, no prepping me, no kindness at all. I wasn't "forced" in the sense of being tied up or threatened by a weapon, but I was certainly a reluctant participant. I think the physical and emotional pain led me to bury this event. Having had it resurrected in my mind is still painful, even though I have since occasionally bottomed for men I trust, who will seek my pleasure as well as theirs. I'm definitely more of a top, and I think this traumatic event made me unwilling to bottom for a long time. I know this thread is about rape fantasies, but the line between fantasy and reality is often hard to define.

 

[SPARTAN047]

The rapist doesn't have to be mean or cruel. It may be simply a matter of power over weakness. Most actual rapes have little or nothing to do with sex but are really about power. I was molested as a boy, first by older brothers, later by an employee of a men's clothing store. He was not "old" but was certainly older than my 14 years at the time. Another example, which I had forgotten about until just now, was a time when I willingly met a man, again, not really old but older than my 20 or so years. We met in a park at night for sex, but I thought it was going to be oral only. He preyed on my youth and horniness to coerce me into letting him fuck me. I was totally unprepared, physically and emotionally, for being penetrated the first time, but he took my anal virginity that night. No seduction, no prepping me, no kindness at all. I wasn't "forced" in the sense of being tied up or threatened by a weapon, but I was certainly a reluctant participant. I think the physical and emotional pain led me to bury this event. Having had it resurrected in my mind is still painful, even though I have since occasionally bottomed for men I trust, who will seek my pleasure as well as theirs. I'm definitely more of a top, and I think this traumatic event made me unwilling to bottom for a long time. I know this thread is about rape fantasies, but the line between fantasy and reality is often hard to define.

You're probably right and I'm sorry to hear it happened to you.

 

[JeansGrey]

Yes, I have rape fantasies. That's what fantasies are for, to explore things you wouldn't do in real life. I am well aware that in real life the act is horrible and shouldn't be condoned, but neither should people have to limit or suppress those in the privacy of their own mind. I run across many stories and talks that involve topics most wouldn't consider a trigger, but brings up trauma for me. I just don't choose to read it. It's like imagining of thinking of someone else while having sex. I know the difference between my mind and reality. So, sometimes I fantasize forcing others and sometimes being forced.

 

[eroticspank]

I have been through non-consensual sex before and you could call it rape. It was a situation where I had an orgasm, and I was forced by a woman, but that does not make it okay. Emotionally, I felt bad. In fact, it affected me the rest of my life in the bedroom. I was able to get over it with discussions and therapy. However, a big part of the process for me was admitting that I enjoy having a woman take control. This was hard to admit after what happened.

Today, I enjoy non-consensual fantasies about a strange woman taking me. I can't do something like that for real because of so many variables. If I met an amazing woman and she took control, it would not work for me, unless there was some kind of trust, friendship, or a strong bond. I can sense it too, it is a deep sense of caring, I know this woman will not hurt me but will enjoy taking control of me.
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[ericalauren]

I have been through non-consensual sex before and you could call it rape. It was a situation where I had an orgasm, and I was forced by a woman, but that does not make it okay. Emotionally, I felt bad. In fact, it affected me the rest of my life in the bedroom. I was able to get over it with discussions and therapy. However, a big part of the process for me was admitting that I enjoy having a woman take control. This was hard to admit after what happened.

Today, I enjoy non-consensual fantasies about a strange woman taking me. I can't do something like that for real because of so many variables. If I met an amazing woman and she took control, it would not work for me, unless there was some kind of trust, friendship, or a strong bond. I can sense it too, it is a deep sense of caring, I know this woman will not hurt me but will enjoy taking control of me.
ES

I'm sorry to hear that you were raped. I'm a survivor of CSA and I was SA'd when I was 20 years old. People of all sexes and genders have rape fantasies. It (obviously) does not mean that they want to be raped IRL.

 

[JoeSmith2022]

Sometimes I dream in this general direction.

 

[lowcollar]

Absolutely! 4 angry women with strapons and two shaved trans women surround me as I awake. I am already bound. I am spit on, urinated on, called the most degrading of names, pegged, fisted and forced to suck every strapon and drink the two trans women's cum. My balls are tortured and my nipples are pierced. I am required to lick every single asshole and get everyone off. My penis is stuck in a cock cage with my erection bulging against the steel.

 

[ZacharyFagg]

Consensual non consent is a turn on, but needs the basis of trust that things will stop if asked. All my hottest sessions have been right on the line of feeling uncomfortable or to humiliated.

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[ZacharyFagg]

Consensual/ Non consent is a thing, and can be very hot. I engage in it often.
Things are discussed beforehand, so during the scene, the dominant does not have to ask if every single thing is ok. Verbal consent is given beforehand.
When a guy has me bound and gagged, I do not want him to have to ask if he can do something. That would ruin the fantasy.

 

[Uncut1969]

Long story short, after skinny dipping with three guys and three girls. The guy, who was clearly the leader of their group began stroking his cock, asking me if this is how I did it when I wished I was with a woman.

I was shocked and embarrassed, I had been hoping that I had a chance with one of the girls. He kept mocking me and said I should show when how I jerk off.

All this time the girls were giggling and laughing. Finally when I wouldn’t play with myself two of the guys held my arms behind my back. The other guy grabbed my penis and began stroking me.

My penis responded despite the fact that I wanted this to stop. I was furious and fighting but I couldn’t get away. The girls kept laughing. One of them talked to me saying that it feels good so let it happen.

Then I was cumming, hard, I produced more semen than usual. He kept stroking me even after I finished cumming. Everyone was laughing I was shaking, finally they let me go. There was no point to try to hit them, they were stronger and more of them.

The girls comforted me, telling me they liked how much I came and didn’t it feel good. Years later when I think about that experience, I always get a raging erection.

Would love to experience a post orgasm stroke it has to feel so good !

 

[easyoff]

Can't rape the willing

 

[EdgySubMic]

Can't rape the willing

Sadly, said the willing...