Requesting payment

[Bramblethorn]

why make some more privileged than others just because they're willing and able to spare $X and pay for something, when not everyone can afford to do so.

That's pretty much the point of capitalism: money buys stuff you couldn't otherwise have. "Pay for early access" is a very common business model for creative work: you can buy a ticket to see a new movie, or get it cheaper on Netflix, or wait for it to screen on free-to-air. Buy your favourite musician's new album or wait for the singles to be played on radio, etc. etc.

Authors have bills to pay, and most of those don't even come with the option of "wait a bit and get it free". The only issue I can see here is if the guy's using bait-and-switch (I remember one author who posted a multi-chapter story on Lit then told readers the final chapter would only be available for money) or otherwise going beyond the site's rules on acceptable promotion. If you think he's breaking site rules, you can report his stories.

 

[lovecraft68]

(I remember one author who posted a multi-chapter story on Lit then told readers the final chapter would only be available for money).

That's a violation here, but yet its all over the site, including most works by one of the most popular authors here. As I said above, its pointless to even report things like that.

 

[robertreams]

So far I have over 750,000 views on Literotica. I will accept ten cents from each.

 

[Asbel]

Doesn't sound to me like anyone is "forcing" you to do anything. I'm not sure what is actually going on, but I put most of my stories out for a fee for months before putting them here on Lit. for FREE (and some I never offer for FREE). I don't tell readers here they have to pay for them if they want to read them before they are put on Lit. for FREE, but that's what it amounts to. All you have to do is to wait to get it for FREE. If you can't wait to read it for FREE, yes, you can jolly well pay for it. I don't owe it to you ten minutes after I've written it. I don't owe it to you at all.

You have never made a post on this board that has made me respect you.

 

[Asbel]

Anyway, my opinion on the "pay for early access"...

Before I started posting on Literotica (on the tip of a close friend), I was a pretty well-known artist in a very, VERY niche porn community. I would basically go in a thread and, for a good five hours, would take requests for various porn fetishes all centering on a character. That was all for free. Without sounding conceited, I got really famous this way, not half of which was due to being at the center of two giant controversies for that particular porn community.

I did freebies for two years, and then I found myself struggling to make ends meet. By the suggestion of a fan, I started taking commissions religiously. The freebies became nearly nonexistent. I didn't have time to do threads anymore. Eventually, I got a few patrons and was confident enough to start a Patreon.

The Patreon was empty for weeks. To drive up sales, I made the best thing I'd ever drawn, and then a second version of that picture in blacklight, saying that in order to view the second version of the picture, you just had to pledge a donation of ANY amount at all on Patreon.

At the end of that month, I was pledged $4.

It wasn't long after that, that I had to drop out of the art world completely. I didn't really explain where I had to go or what had happened, but the past year has been hell. I stopped drawing because I realized it was never going to pull in enough money to keep me alive. I write because I can do it on and off and unlike drawing, I'm best at it when I'm insanely, incurably depressed.

I have a love-hate relationship with paid authors and artists. I want to give the world to my viewers. But goddammit, I'm homeless. If I could make money off this, you bet I would try. But the fact that I would have even one single person like the OP who would resent me for it keeps me from trying again.

Ugh.

 

[sr71plt]

You have never made a post on this board that has made me respect you.

So, who are you that I would care? Oh, right, you're famous. Sorry, I still don't care.

 

[KarlMartinK]

I found a story on here that was extremely interesting and not very similar to anything I'd read on here. After five or six chapters, the author posted some disclaimer about how he had tried to post another chapter, but it had been rejected for violating some "trivial" rule on the site. He gave a link where the rest of the story could be bought for some small fee, maybe around three to five dollars. Having liked the original works, I bought it and started reading where I left off.

Let the buyer beware! So, the early chapters focused on this girl and her boyfriend and the naughty things she did. The chapters that I paid for were all about her having sex with her underage brother and really nothing more. There was a place to provide feedback, so I did. I also got some responses from the author, but it was no good. He was defending his underage incest (that hadn't been present in the original story).

Anyway, I hated it.

 

[lovecraft68]

People here can get ridiculous with pretty much anything, but the free reader me me me crowd is the worst.

My SWB series went 44 installments (39 in the main series and a five ch spin off). In the final chapter (39) there is a resolution to the story. Yes, loose ends were left, but the main point of the story was settled.

There's a reason I took a moment to mention that.

I then did a five part follow up which takes place a few months later, ties up a few loose ends, but has its own story line. They were also put on lit and were here for a few months.

That is until someone reported a chapter for alleged snuff and it was rejected(after passing six months prior)

I am not going to argue rules with a site that enforces them half ass and I am not rewriting my material so I pulled all of it and its available on Smashwords as is the rest of the series with some added content along the way.

I've sold far more copies of that book (#8) than the others and I assume that people are reading it here then grabbing sequel there. For the most part I've heard nothing and gotten some nice reviews on the last book from lit members.

But I've also gotten several "You're wrong for charging I should get this for free!"

My response is I provided 44 chapters for free and would have for this one as well if not for the site, if you don't want to pay a whopping $2.99 oh, well.

Again I call out the series here does have a conclusive ending so I'm not violating yet another rule lit has created yet never enforces, but I follow anyway.

 

[observer7]

I found a story on here that was extremely interesting and not very similar to anything I'd read on here. After five or six chapters, the author posted some disclaimer about how he had tried to post another chapter, but it had been rejected for violating some "trivial" rule on the site. He gave a link where the rest of the story could be bought for some small fee, maybe around three to five dollars. Having liked the original works, I bought it and started reading where I left off.

Let the buyer beware! So, the early chapters focused on this girl and her boyfriend and the naughty things she did. The chapters that I paid for were all about her having sex with her underage brother and really nothing more. There was a place to provide feedback, so I did. I also got some responses from the author, but it was no good. He was defending his underage incest (that hadn't been present in the original story).

Anyway, I hated it.

Hahaha! Oh, yes. A good cautionary tale. Only three hard lines here: underage, bestiality, snuff. Whenever I see anyone whining about "trivial" restrictions, it is almost always underage sex. Any author whining about that should be immediately discarded--they aren't being edgy or rebellious, they just want to fuck teenagers or kids. Not edgy at all, weak, actually.

In fact, got a guy currently over in Sci-Fi right now whining on his author page about "exploring alternative worlds" (with your typical hack title) and not being allowed to post chapter 2 and 3 here. I figured it was underage. He conformed, changed it to meet guidelines, and ch 2 and 3 are now posted, but supposedly put in a little "jab" at the age restriction, whine/whine/clever wannabe. But all it tells us is, "Hur-hur, I done imagine she's really 13...hur-hur."

So yeah, never pay for anyone's work that says outright he thinks his creativity is above guidelines, which means it is a bait and switch.

 

[KarlMartinK]

Hahaha! Oh, yes. A good cautionary tale. Only three hard lines here: underage, bestiality, snuff. Whenever I see anyone whining about "trivial" restrictions, it is almost always underage sex. Any author whining about that should be immediately discarded--they aren't being edgy or rebellious, they just want to fuck teenagers or kids. Not edgy at all, weak, actually.

In fact, got a guy currently over in Sci-Fi right now whining on his author page about "exploring alternative worlds" (with your typical hack title) and not being allowed to post chapter 2 and 3 here. I figured it was underage. He conformed, changed it to meet guidelines, and ch 2 and 3 are now posted, but supposedly put in a little "jab" at the age restriction, whine/whine/clever wannabe. But all it tells us is, "Hur-hur, I done imagine she's really 13...hur-hur."

So yeah, never pay for anyone's work that says outright he thinks his creativity is above guidelines, which means it is a bait and switch.

The weird part about this one was that the story had been very interesting as it was with no hint that it was going to go in that direction. Thinking it would be more of the same, I bought a copy and it turns out all the additional information was about her having sex with her underage brother.

When I got feedback from the author, he said he had explored everything he could with the characters the way they were and made this plot change because it make the most sense. To that, I responded with a ton of ideas along the same lines of the original story. Honestly, I don't see the appeal in this story having to use a brother who is underage. If he wanted to write incest, he could have used someone of legal age and it wouldn't have made a difference to the story and wouldn't have been quite as gross, but still, the story would have been ruined no matter which path it had gone down. It's like reading the beginning of a story with one kind of details, then the rest of the story goes completely differently.

 

[JanneE]

Ask for a synopsis

 

[KarlMartinK]

Ask for a synopsis

I should have done that. I might have gotten something like this:

Well, see, there's this girl and her boyfriend and they sneak the girl into the boys' shower at the beach. She ends up doing a show for all the men who come in and she blows her boyfriend. Then, she goes home and has sex with her underage brother for about six chapters.