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Magnetron said:
It's called the Ignore button.

Normally I don't bother, but it will never voluntarily go away and Laurel would will never banish it. So ...........
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I'm the token straight male at LIT.
 
legerdemer said:
He's a virus, and we need a vaccine.
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Bleach. ;)

And, the ignore option works wonders! When someone has absolutely nothing of use to say, there's no reason to keep paying attention to them. After all, it is the discontent and the attention that they crave.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
I'm the token straight male at LIT.
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You are the token guy who doesnt get it, the child who walks in half way through a novie and needs it all explained for him. You know poetry as a written art is beyond you. You should click your heels together three times whilst looking in the mirror and "repeat poetry is not for me"

You dont seem to posses a basic tool for understanding and relating to poetry, Empathy. You continue to pontificate with no real understanding of what you are trying to present. No point puffing your chest out with a superiority complex
when you are the equivalent of a small child. I guess I should pat you on the head and dismiss you with sarcasm.

The four examples you presented with out context offer five/eights of fuck all in terms of relevance without context unless you are teying to state that all poetry should be songs, but that dismisses the other tools invented in the evolution of poetry as an art form. Not that you will listen or even respond with anything other than insults or more than a simple I'm better than you type post but meh. I guess at the end of the day you simply amuse more than anything.
 
todski28 said:
You are the token guy who doesnt get it, the child who walks in half way through a novie and needs it all explained for him. You know poetry as a written art is beyond you. You should click your heels together three times whilst looking in the mirror and "repeat poetry is not for me"

You dont seem to posses a basic tool for understanding and relating to poetry, Empathy. You continue to pontificate with no real understanding of what you are trying to present. No point puffing your chest out with a superiority complex
when you are the equivalent of a small child. I guess I should pat you on the head and dismiss you with sarcasm.

The four examples you presented with out context offer five/eights of fuck all in terms of relevance without context unless you are teying to state that all poetry should be songs, but that dismisses the other tools invented in the evolution of poetry as an art form. Not that you will listen or even respond with anything other than insults or more than a simple I'm better than you type post but meh. I guess at the end of the day you simply amuse more than anything.
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If I threw a spear at you youd get the context immediately but youre the kind, as most here are, who if you heard a roar and heard something large crashing through the woods in your direction would do a Bayes Risk Asessment with your calculator before you hauled ass.

I tossed a few pool noodles your way that speak volumes about poetry.

The poor dears at the AH got a long comment in Dutch about organ composition. Its actually more relevant for poets.
 
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todski28 said:
I guess at the end of the day you simply amuse more than anything.
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One or two amusing comment with all that he throws out there is random chance. It's not worth wading thru all his shit to find the occasional accidental bit of fools gold.

Still waiting on the pic of you in a rainbow speedo though :D. Now THAT would be entertaining indeed :kiss:
 
I liked number 10, how the sprawling, long-winded lines end with something totally mundane: a paycheck. There's a deep truth in this. All this ivory-tower intellectualism boils down to rent, otherwise it's just sprawling, long-winded noise.
 
Here's the answer to the vid quiz all of you Nimrods failed:

Unless you speak Dutch you cant understand a word of what Feike Asma says to the interviewer. Unless you have a sense of organ playing you cant fully appreciate howcome Asma was a stellar organist. Did you hear his mistakes? He always had problems with compositions like the Widor Tocatta played at the end of the vid. Asma's forte were hymns, he composed many.

Once more, poetry must make sense to your readers. No 'poet' here understands this basic concept.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlwS7H2_BU

Notice how much better this Mozart opera is sung in English.
 
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JAMESBJOHNSON said:
Here's the answer to the vid quiz all of you Nimrods failed:

Unless you speak Dutch you cant understand a word of what Feike Asma says to the interviewer. Unless you have a sense of organ playing you cant fully appreciate howcome Asma was a stellar organist. Did you hear his mistakes? He always had problems with compositions like the Widor Tocatta played at the end of the vid. Asma's forte were hymns, he composed many.

Once more, poetry must make sense to your readers. No 'poet' here understands this basic concept.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlwS7H2_BU

Notice how much better this Mozart opera is sung in English.
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something you fail to understand is every other reader manages to understand the writing, so maybe you should look in the mirror and see where you are failing, it truly is that simple, reading and discerning poetry is work on the readers part, it isn't prose where like a child it is all explained to you. if you fail to see that then once again poetry is not for you.
 
todski28 said:
something you fail to understand is every other reader manages to understand the writing, so maybe you should look in the mirror and see where you are failing, it truly is that simple, reading and discerning poetry is work on the readers part, it isn't prose where like a child it is all explained to you. if you fail to see that then once again poetry is not for you.
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I'm sure Harry loves Butters but when I look at her I don't get the attraction, I don't get her sexual appeal. Something about her does not translate to men like me. Just like your 'poems' don't translate much to me. Magnetron prolly swoons but I don't get it, and I know good writing. I get Mozart when the libretto is in English rather than German. The point is lost on you, which explains why youre a lousy poet.
 
Black13 said:
I fear this thread is getting smashed beyond repair.
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It has gone off the rails a bit, I'm afraid nearly all of us have contributed to that. He(?) who has been put on ignore by many is unlikely to disappear until there is no one left to engage his trolling.

So, Todski, you fine Aussie gent, as you appear to be the last one engaging in discourse with the troll, would you please consider refraining and helping us get back to talking about the poetry.

I'm being dense about #14. I like the sounds of the piece but I don't "get it" even after looking up piezoelectric. It's the ending that's not making sense to me. Someone help me out...
 
Trixareforkids said:
It has gone off the rails a bit, I'm afraid nearly all of us have contributed to that. He(?) who has been put on ignore by many is unlikely to disappear until there is no one left to engage his trolling.

So, Todski, you fine Aussie gent, as you appear to be the last one engaging in discourse with the troll, would you please consider refraining and helping us get back to talking about the poetry.

I'm being dense about #14. I like the sounds of the piece but I don't "get it" even after looking up piezoelectric. It's the ending that's not making sense to me. Someone help me out...
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I could be wrong, but I think it's an allusion to a spark plug.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectric_sensor
 
greenmountaineer said:
I could be wrong, but I think it's an allusion to a spark plug.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectric_sensor
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What wizardry is this that you have found? Yes, having read that, the fingers bit makes sense now. I swear that the sensor link did not come up the first time I searched, only piezoelectricity but when I just searched again the sensor bit was the first link ~feeling like a silly rabbit~.

Thank you GM :)
 
Numbers 13 and 15 bother me somewhat, for opposite reasons. 13 seems like it is trying too hard to faithfully conform to the science, to the point where any metaphoric function has become very faint and the poem lacks passion. 15 seems to have only a fig-leaf of scientific content over an otherwise garden-variety erotic poem.

#14, on the other hand, is the happy medium: it's elegant, romantic, the science metaphor is intriguing without being super obvious, it tickles the mind.
 
Oops - my apologies to the poet of #17 - I fixed the boo boo.

Although I was hoping that explanations would come after we picked our favorites.
 
I'm trying to understand the function of the footnotes in #16. I'm hoping that they are some clever e.e.cummings-style riff that is intended to the lure the reader to an ironic idea.
 
"Voting" on your top two favorites

It doesn't look like we'll get more poems or discussion on "science in poetry," so time to close it up by voting.

I'd love to hear from everyone what their top two poems were. Then I'll identify the poets and they can tell us what they were thinking.

I apologize for being too silent - I am snowed under at work, and didn't realize quite how bad it would be. But during the last discussion, I'll do more - discussing, that is.

So please PM me with the #s of your first and second choices.

Note: you may do this even if you did not submit your own poem.
 
Timeline

Let's close voting end of day September 25. I'll try to have the votes entirely tallied and posted by morning on the 26th, and reveal the poets' identities.

That will give us that weekend to get more comments from the poets.

Thanks, all!

(And thanks to those who've voted already.)
 
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