sex weapons

[Etoile]

Doppler radar.

 

[Farawyn]

Rape is certainly a sexual weapon, but not where I was going.

In History and Myth, we have stories as wild and varied as can be, from Biological weapons, To distractions, sex has been and will continued on be weaponized.

From Myth, we have the Spartans, waiting for Baccaniala (citywide orgy, said to include Vampiric Women) to start, slipping in their own camp followers to seduce the guards and taking them with "Their pants down". Though personally I find the Sumarian stories more interesting; Sumer was ruled by the Priestess-Prostitutes of Ishtar, and the stories of how they stayed in power, is kinda epic. The First one and more likley to be real, is that after an invading army would set up for a seige, the Priestesses would come into the camp and suduce people and Summerian Warriors would just come in and kill the Soldiers post coitus. The Crazy one was that the Temple of Ishtar controlled a plague, a super syphlytic disease, that would rewrite a man's brain to make them more lawful, and no longer Sumer's foe.

In reality we have the stories of the Celts, and men and women fighting nude, much like the idea of the Chainmail Bikini, the Dangly bits are a distraction. Though the Celts did believe in a magic mud called wode, would protect them. We also have stories that AIDS type 2 is a man made STD. We do know that AMARIID did play with the idea of a weaponized Hepatitis back in the 70's.

So yes Sex can be a weapon, as wild as the imagination can create. Should it be, no, but preditors will be preditors, regardless of if they are Male, Female. There are more examples that could be said about, but I could rember these of the top of my head.

Thanks for this post, Noe.
I was thinking mythology, too, but why do we need that when history is so grizzly?
Hands you a copy of A Handmaid's Tale... here's some fiction.

Modern day- I was speaking more of Witch hunts
China
Roe v Wade
College rape/consent
....
yadda yadda yadda...

 

[cookiecat]

Thanks for this post, Noe.
I was thinking mythology, too, but why do we need that when history is so grizzly?
Hands you a copy of A Handmaid's Tale... here's some fiction.

Modern day- I was speaking more of Witch hunts
China
Roe v Wade
College rape/consent
....
yadda yadda yadda...

There's this amazing new tv channel - Viceland. All the shows are "reality" style - there is nothing scripted.

Gloria Steinem had an 8 series show called "Woman." One of them dealt with rape as a weapon of war. It was devastating to watch.

https://www.viceland.com/en_us/show/woman

"More than poverty, natural resources, religion, or degree of democracy, violence against females is the most reliable predictor of whether a nation will be violent within itself or will use violence against another country -- and gender violence has become so great that for the first time, there are now fewer females on Earth than males," says Steinem. "This series informs and gives viewers ways to help."

Here are the rest of their shows: https://www.viceland.com/en_us/shows

 

[NoeMasks]

Thanks for this post, Noe.
I was thinking mythology, too, but why do we need that when history is so grizzly?
Hands you a copy of A Handmaid's Tale... here's some fiction.

Modern day- I was speaking more of Witch hunts
China
Roe v Wade
College rape/consent
....
yadda yadda yadda...

Okay,

I have read the Handmaids Tale, and counter with the Eugenics program from Dune. China, Roe v Wade, the Rape epidemic (which is not new, but Somthing is finally being done about it), and The IS, are all about Women not being allowed to control their own bodies. The Witch Hunts were not about sex, but buying cheep property. So yes all my exsamples were of concentual sex being used as a weapon.


Returning to the true meaning of the thread, My Brain, is my sex weapon, of seduction.

 

[NoeMasks]

There's this amazing new tv channel - Viceland. All the shows are "reality" style - there is nothing scripted.

Gloria Steinem had an 8 series show called "Woman." One of them dealt with rape as a weapon of war. It was devastating to watch.

https://www.viceland.com/en_us/show/woman



Here are the rest of their shows: https://www.viceland.com/en_us/shows

We are starting to see Kurdish Women from the IS, and other victims of the Callaphate, in our women's crisis groups, it makes me sick that I am a man.

 

[fire_breeze]

Rape is certainly a sexual weapon, but not where I was going.

In History and Myth, we have stories as wild and varied as can be, from Biological weapons, To distractions, sex has been and will continued on be weaponized.

From Myth, we have the Spartans, waiting for Baccaniala (citywide orgy, said to include Vampiric Women) to start, slipping in their own camp followers to seduce the guards and taking them with "Their pants down". Though personally I find the Sumarian stories more interesting; Sumer was ruled by the Priestess-Prostitutes of Ishtar, and the stories of how they stayed in power, is kinda epic. The First one and more likley to be real, is that after an invading army would set up for a seige, the Priestesses would come into the camp and suduce people and Summerian Warriors would just come in and kill the Soldiers post coitus. The Crazy one was that the Temple of Ishtar controlled a plague, a super syphlytic disease, that would rewrite a man's brain to make them more lawful, and no longer Sumer's foe.

In reality we have the stories of the Celts, and men and women fighting nude, much like the idea of the Chainmail Bikini, the Dangly bits are a distraction. Though the Celts did believe in a magic mud called wode, would protect them. We also have stories that AIDS type 2 is a man made STD. We do know that AMARIID did play with the idea of a weaponized Hepatitis back in the 70's.

So yes Sex can be a weapon, as wild as the imagination can create. Should it be, no, but preditors will be preditors, regardless of if they are Male, Female. There are more examples that could be said about, but I could rember these of the top of my head.

I rarely post here, but I was asked by someone who does post here to comment on this post, as they were wondering on the accuracies. (Plus, I lost a bet to them and they are calling it in). I am very sorry to say, but this is riddled with historical inaccuracies and mythological falsehoods. I am really not trying to start anything .

Bacchanalia was not a 'city-wide' orgy, nor was it associate with Sparta. It was Roman and arrived in Roman Liber around 200 BCE, but let's go with the Greek version, Dionysia. That also had nothing to with Sparta: it began in the 400s BCE in Attica (area around modern Athens) - kilometres away from Sparta. Spartans did not have any 'city-wide' orgies (and by the way, Spartan women were not camp followers; they ruled and managed Sparta's wealth whilst the warriors were out fighting) whatsoever. None. Sorry. Sexy as fuck, what with the ripped Spartan men and whatnot, but didn't happen.
And in any case, there was no 'Vampiric women'. Some Greek mythology includes Lamia or Empusa, who may, depending on the myth, drink blood, but these were goddesses and non-humans and are not vampires as we understand them.

Sumer was not ruled by a priestess-prostitute. They were ruled by either a priest-governor or by a king (and Inanna is the Sumerian version of Ishtar), but not a priestess-prostitute. In other words, the various city-states that made up Sumer were usually ruled by men, though some queens/priestess-governor did exist. Sacred prostitution is highly doubted today anyway: those temples and cults which have sacred sex associated with does not come from them nor has been substantiated by the cultures that was attributed to having them; rather, Herodotus and other later Greek historians claim that they did. There may have been sacred sex rituals, but we aren't sure if this was actual sex or simulated (most of the evidence points to the latter). If it did happen, then it was more of an exception rather than the norm, reserved for a few initiates. Again, sexy as fuck, but over-exaggerated.
Also, what you have described about the priestesses seducing the enemy... um... no. We do not have any evidence, nor was it likely to happen. In fact, it really seems an agglomeration of several epics and cycles, some Ancient Near Eastern, some Second Temple narratives, and maybe a Persian myth. The plague bit was unheard of at the time and nope, did not happen.

Some Celtic tribes did fight in the nude, some did not. And some Celtic tribes had women warriors, but most did not. Celts did not believe in a magic mud. They did paint themselves with woad - a type of plant-based dye that paints the skin blue. They did it for many reason, and yes some spiritual, but not because they believed it was magic.

And that bit about weaponised hepatitis? That came from the mind of one man, Dave Mihalovic, who isn't a doctor nor is he a serious researcher, is an anti-vaxxer and has been debunked as a quack. He claims to be a vaccine researcher but published absolutely zero outside of blogposts.

I do apologise for the tone of the post, but I do have to fulfil my debt to the individual and as an anthropologist, this kind of inaccuracies wreaks havoc on me - a bit of a pet peeve, I'm afraid .

I'm not going against your thesis about sex being used a weapon, just that your examples are a bit flawed.

I'll bow out now.

Buddy, my debt is done, slate is clean.

 

[MastersDelight]

I rarely post here, but I was asked by someone who does post here to comment on this post, as they were wondering on the accuracies. (Plus, I lost a bet to them and they are calling it in). I am very sorry to say, but this is riddled with historical inaccuracies and mythological falsehoods. I am really not trying to start anything .

Bacchanalia was not a 'city-wide' orgy, nor was it associate with Sparta. It was Roman and arrived in Roman Liber around 200 BCE, but let's go with the Greek version, Dionysia. That also had nothing to with Sparta: it began in the 400s BCE in Attica (area around modern Athens) - kilometres away from Sparta. Spartans did not have any 'city-wide' orgies (and by the way, Spartan women were not camp followers; they ruled and managed Sparta's wealth whilst the warriors were out fighting) whatsoever. None. Sorry. Sexy as fuck, what with the ripped Spartan men and whatnot, but didn't happen.
And in any case, there was no 'Vampiric women'. Some Greek mythology includes Lamia or Empusa, who may, depending on the myth, drink blood, but these were goddesses and non-humans and are not vampires as we understand them.

Sumer was not ruled by a priestess-prostitute. They were ruled by either a priest-governor or by a king (and Inanna is the Sumerian version of Ishtar), but not a priestess-prostitute. In other words, the various city-states that made up Sumer were usually ruled by men, though some queens/priestess-governor did exist. Sacred prostitution is highly doubted today anyway: those temples and cults which have sacred sex associated with does not come from them nor has been substantiated by the cultures that was attributed to having them; rather, Herodotus and other later Greek historians claim that they did. There may have been sacred sex rituals, but we aren't sure if this was actual sex or simulated (most of the evidence points to the latter). If it did happen, then it was more of an exception rather than the norm, reserved for a few initiates. Again, sexy as fuck, but over-exaggerated.
Also, what you have described about the priestesses seducing the enemy... um... no. We do not have any evidence, nor was it likely to happen. In fact, it really seems an agglomeration of several epics and cycles, some Ancient Near Eastern, some Second Temple narratives, and maybe a Persian myth. The plague bit was unheard of at the time and nope, did not happen.

Some Celtic tribes did fight in the nude, some did not. And some Celtic tribes had women warriors, but most did not. Celts did not believe in a magic mud. They did paint themselves with woad - a type of plant-based dye that paints the skin blue. They did it for many reason, and yes some spiritual, but not because they believed it was magic.

And that bit about weaponised hepatitis? That came from the mind of one man, Dave Mihalovic, who isn't a doctor nor is he a serious researcher, is an anti-vaxxer and has been debunked as a quack. He claims to be a vaccine researcher but published absolutely zero outside of blogposts.

I do apologise for the tone of the post, but I do have to fulfil my debt to the individual and as an anthropologist, this kind of inaccuracies wreaks havoc on me - a bit of a pet peeve, I'm afraid .

I'm not going against your thesis about sex being used a weapon, just that your examples are a bit flawed.

I'll bow out now.

Buddy, my debt is done, slate is clean.

..............

 

[Farawyn]

I rarely post here, but I was asked by someone who does post here to comment on this post, as they were wondering on the accuracies. (Plus, I lost a bet to them and they are calling it in). I am very sorry to say, but this is riddled with historical inaccuracies and mythological falsehoods. I am really not trying to start anything .

Bacchanalia was not a 'city-wide' orgy, nor was it associate with Sparta. It was Roman and arrived in Roman Liber around 200 BCE, but let's go with the Greek version, Dionysia. That also had nothing to with Sparta: it began in the 400s BCE in Attica (area around modern Athens) - kilometres away from Sparta. Spartans did not have any 'city-wide' orgies (and by the way, Spartan women were not camp followers; they ruled and managed Sparta's wealth whilst the warriors were out fighting) whatsoever. None. Sorry. Sexy as fuck, what with the ripped Spartan men and whatnot, but didn't happen.
And in any case, there was no 'Vampiric women'. Some Greek mythology includes Lamia or Empusa, who may, depending on the myth, drink blood, but these were goddesses and non-humans and are not vampires as we understand them.

Sumer was not ruled by a priestess-prostitute. They were ruled by either a priest-governor or by a king (and Inanna is the Sumerian version of Ishtar), but not a priestess-prostitute. In other words, the various city-states that made up Sumer were usually ruled by men, though some queens/priestess-governor did exist. Sacred prostitution is highly doubted today anyway: those temples and cults which have sacred sex associated with does not come from them nor has been substantiated by the cultures that was attributed to having them; rather, Herodotus and other later Greek historians claim that they did. There may have been sacred sex rituals, but we aren't sure if this was actual sex or simulated (most of the evidence points to the latter). If it did happen, then it was more of an exception rather than the norm, reserved for a few initiates. Again, sexy as fuck, but over-exaggerated.
Also, what you have described about the priestesses seducing the enemy... um... no. We do not have any evidence, nor was it likely to happen. In fact, it really seems an agglomeration of several epics and cycles, some Ancient Near Eastern, some Second Temple narratives, and maybe a Persian myth. The plague bit was unheard of at the time and nope, did not happen.

Some Celtic tribes did fight in the nude, some did not. And some Celtic tribes had women warriors, but most did not. Celts did not believe in a magic mud. They did paint themselves with woad - a type of plant-based dye that paints the skin blue. They did it for many reason, and yes some spiritual, but not because they believed it was magic.

And that bit about weaponised hepatitis? That came from the mind of one man, Dave Mihalovic, who isn't a doctor nor is he a serious researcher, is an anti-vaxxer and has been debunked as a quack. He claims to be a vaccine researcher but published absolutely zero outside of blogposts.

I do apologise for the tone of the post, but I do have to fulfil my debt to the individual and as an anthropologist, this kind of inaccuracies wreaks havoc on me - a bit of a pet peeve, I'm afraid .

I'm not going against your thesis about sex being used a weapon, just that your examples are a bit flawed.

I'll bow out now.

Buddy, my debt is done, slate is clean.

You had me at anti-vaxxer quack...

*swoons*

 

[MastersDelight]

You had me at anti-vaxxer quack...

*swoons*

Oh Far, you always make me giggle.

 

[cookiecat]

You had me at anti-vaxxer quack...

*swoons*

I kind of liked the word agglomeration.

This thread went from laser tits to a history lesson.

I love this forum!

 

[Farawyn]

I kind of liked the word agglomeration.

This thread went from laser tits to a history lesson.

I love this forum!

Me too. And I like it NOW.

 

[cookiecat]

Me too. And I like it NOW.

yup.

 

[MastersDelight]

I kind of liked the word agglomeration.

This thread went from laser tits to a history lesson.

I love this forum!

Me too. And I like it NOW.

yup.

Yup yup

 

[NoeMasks]

Wow, well I am done, bye, this has become the General Board.

 

[cookiecat]

Wow, well I am done, bye, this has become the General Board.

Don't go! It's just a conversation / discussion about cool stuff. I can't even add to the conversation about history because I don't even know half the stuff you brought up. So someone jumped in with more information? It's all good.

Yeah, yeah, all of us girls jumped in with hearts and flowers for a poster we don't usually hear from. It was a good post!

I'm impressed at both of you for bringing up interesting subjects. I posted a picture of a chick with laser tits for god's sake. I feel pretty, ummmm, lightweight around here most of the time. I usually do, to be honest. I have no idea what those guys in the faerie thread are talking about most of the time.

So take a dang bow for even tackling the subject of history in a bdsm forum.

I'd miss your cool pool moves if you left.

 

[MastersDelight]

Don't go! It's just a conversation / discussion about cool stuff. I can't even add to the conversation about history because I don't even know half the stuff you brought up. So someone jumped in with more information? It's all good.

Yeah, yeah, all of us girls jumped in with hearts and flowers for a poster we don't usually hear from. It was a good post!

I'm impressed at both of you for bringing up interesting subjects. I posted a picture of a chick with laser tits for god's sake. I feel pretty, ummmm, lightweight around here most of the time. I usually do, to be honest. I have no idea what those guys in the faerie thread are talking about most of the time.

So take a dang bow for even tackling the subject of history in a bdsm forum.

I'd miss your cool pool moves if you left.

Oh hell yeah on depth. I'm only good for one liners and funny GIFs. The level of intelligence dripping off every word from Stag makes me shrink back and just nod along. I had to clap for that post because it was just.... Beautiful. But it's part of the conversation.

 

[Miles Long]

Quick PSA: I don't recommend doing a google image search for the phrase "laser penis gif" or similar.

 

[Farawyn]

Quick PSA: I don't recommend doing a google image search for the phrase "laser penis gif" or similar.

You know I just did it.

 

[MyNameIsNO]

Quick PSA: I don't recommend doing a google image search for the phrase "laser penis gif" or similar.

But I did though.
*sigh*

 

[MyNameIsNO]

Somehow I ended up here

 

[Farawyn]

Somehow I ended up here

Kinda... glitter!

 

[MyNameIsNO]

Kinda... glitter!

I put in laser sex, clicked on a pic of lasers shooting out of a vag, which had Obama on a unicorn with a gun underneath that, clicked on that which led me here.

 

[Farawyn]

I put in laser sex, clicked on a pic of lasers shooting out of a vag, which had Obama on a unicorn with a gun underneath that, clicked on that which led me here.

It's the journey, not the destination.

 

[MyNameIsNO]

It's the journey, not the destination.

Oh no I'm sorry it was Obama on a unicorn with lasers shooting out of his hands.
My bad.

 

[cascadiabound]

* slow clap *

You had me at anti-vaxxer quack...

*swoons*

I kind of liked the word agglomeration.

This thread went from laser tits to a history lesson.

I love this forum!

gotta love an anthropology chick.

But please don't leave NoeMasks.... we appreciate you too. Without your post we would not have been treated to this gem.
You have provided all kinds of other insights.
And there is NO WAY this rises to the level of GB B.S.

She even apologized for her tone in her post. Be a good sport.

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