Should the shameless plug sticky be unstuck or replaced?

[catalina_francisco]

It is a dead thread being artificially propped up. I don't recall anyone saying they use and enjoy it from a reader's view. If you want to attract new people to the forum, I suggest an eye candy sticky. A thread with real life bdsm pics not posted on the pic thread. It would have more views in two weeks than the story thread has now. We already have the talent here that is giving it away. I'd be willing to share a few if my subs give permission.

Well eye candy may be your taste, but don't we already have an Amateur Pic Feedback already on Lit? Why do we need to duplicate unless we are going to become a seperate site altogether...can't we come up with something original instead? Then again, if you want that, and I don't have a problem with it if it were BDSM pic related, wghy can't it co-exist with the Shameless Plug thread instead of once again this age old 'either or' thought pattern when it is not even connected in any way.

Perhaps as you don't moderate you don't get to read each and every posting, but I can assure you in recent weeks I recall at least 3 people saying on the board, and some in PM to me they had read stories from the Plug thread and found it useful, especially in helping them understand they would be accepted here as anything but weird. Add to that over the past months when people have come to the board and requested where to find good BDSM fiction and been pointed to the Plug thread. And might I add once again, the vote is not supporting your call to get rid of it which I think is what is called democracy?

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

I think that this identifies the problem with how slow the thread in question has become. After re reading it, it appears to have ver little discussion of stories and many links.

But it was never meant to be a discussion thread, but a promotional one, yes.

Perhaps, it needs to be re entitled with a new opener encouraging discussion as well as links to stories?

The only plus here I can see is if it were 2 seperate threads entirely, but then how is anyone going to follow which story is being discussed?..answer? You have to make each story a seperate thread which is already done in Story Discussion for those who nominate themselves for it...and which then will become like a seperate board on BDSM and will then have to be discussed as to whether people want to seperate it...thus we are recreating the wheel in the name of BDSM clone of Literotica as a whole site.

I remember we have had a couple of threads of this nature who's life expectancy was fairly short although active. I was also thinking that if there was a way to consolidate some of those threads into the sticky, it would be helpful and might lead to their being more active. I could link them into the first post of teh sticky. any thoughts?

I can't see the advantage as the word 'Sticky' does not seem to attract as much attention for most unless there is smoething of interest in it which they are expecting to see. Why do I say this? We have an issue here about how much use the Shameless Plug sticky is with in just on 6 months, approx. 1700 views...go to BDSM Talk Sticky:Read This and you have over 18 months only approx. 4800 views, then BDSM Cafe Sticky, approx 500 in 9 months. Which comes out with the better average? The one which is a sticky which has a resource and purpose clerarly advertised. Mix a mish mash and who is going to look at what is in the Sticky anyway?

I, too, think morninggirl's idea would create a more user friendly resource. I am not sure how to proceed with creating a single post of links that is not too large of a project or protocol. Speaking for myself, if this were to happen and teh task were to become too large, I might not follow through in the interest of other commitments.

Then we eliminate the feature where people can comment and say what the storyline is about so it doesn't waste people's time, and becomes just the same as going to the already existing story lists in the story section. No guidance as to what to click on, just a list of links. What purpose does it serve in making it user freindly..also you have to scroll down the list without knowing who posted what, and likely those at the top will get the most reads simply because it is convenient .Then how do new postings get placed on the list?
Not to mention the work required for all these ideas.

Catalina

 

[WriterDom]

Story forums far outnumber the one pic forum. And the majority of picture threads are vanilla.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Story forums far outnumber the one pic forum. And the majority of picture threads are vanilla.

lmao WD you need to take a closer look at the apf not that i would know or anything

 

[WriterDom]

I can't see the advantage as the word 'Sticky' does not seem to attract as much attention for most unless there is smoething of interest in it which they are expecting to see. Why do I say this? We have an issue here about how much use the Shameless Plug sticky is with in just on 6 months, approx. 1700 views...go to BDSM Talk Sticky:Read This and you have over 18 months only approx. 4800 views, then BDSM Cafe Sticky, approx 500 in 9 months. Which comes out with the better average? The one which is a sticky which has a resource and purpose clerarly advertised. Mix a mish mash and who is going to look at what is in the Sticky anyway?

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Here you are comparing an apple to a dead fish. Of course an open sticky will have more views. It was viewed each time it was posted to, over 80 times by many different people, and posters go back and look to see if anyone has replied or commented. I bet I have viewed it 50 to 100 times myself, but have only clicked on one or two links. You can close it for a while, and compare the two and make a comparison.

 

[catalina_francisco]

lmao WD you need to take a closer look at the apf not that i would know or anything

I could name 4-5 that just demand attention and I haven't been there checking out that long yet.

Catalina

 

[Limbhugger]

Dude, seriously what is your deal? The polling supports leaving it up there. The arguments support leaving it up there. And pics have nothing to do with it.

It's just a sticky.

 

[WriterDom]

lmao WD you need to take a closer look at the apf not that i would know or anything

I don't hang out there as much as you do, but been there enough to say there aren't many bdsm types who aren't active here as well. If you know some female that I might have missed, send me their link

 

[Kajira Callista]

I don't hang out there as much as you do, but been there enough to say there aren't many bdsm types who aren't active here as well. If you know some female that I might have missed, send me their link

lol there are more bdsmers over there then there are in these forums darling.

 

[WriterDom]

Dude, seriously what is your deal? The polling supports leaving it up there. The arguments support leaving it up there. And pics have nothing to do with it.

It's just a sticky.

Try not to get your panties in a wad, ok?

 

[Limbhugger]

Try not to get your panties in a wad, ok?

Oh how clever you witty man.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Try not to get your panties in a wad, ok?

ya know...now you are just acting like a dick.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I don't hang out there as much as you do, but been there enough to say there aren't many bdsm types who aren't active here as well. If you know some female that I might have missed, send me their link

3 of the ones I mentioned are not posters to this forum, but I don't have time to find them for you right now..and not all are just single women, more so people in relationships living their dream.

Catalina

 

[WriterDom]

Oh how clever you witty man.

Seriously guy, I do all I can to stay away from your threads, and you attack me in my threads for no reason.

Here is a good example of your childish posting in the "How To"

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=252610


I've found the only way to stop this kind of stuff is to attack. I don't want to go shit in your threads, so lets just avoid each other, ok? If you will agree, I will agree to let this thread die, deal?

 

[catalina_francisco]

Here you are comparing an apple to a dead fish. Of course an open sticky will have more views. It was viewed each time it was posted to, over 80 times by many different people, and posters go back and look to see if anyone has replied or commented. I bet I have viewed it 50 to 100 times myself, but have only clicked on one or two links. You can close it for a while, and compare the two and make a comparison.

As it is not intended for answering posts, I for one don't expect replies, but know if there are any they will come up in my email as that handy feature allows. Why can't you accept what is being voted on the poll you created, and where did you get the impression you could tell Miss Taken or myself as the moderators of the forum, what action to take in the light of opposing votes and opinions of posters? I understand for some reason it bothers you tremendously, but that does not give you the right to say to hell with what anyone else wants, do it my way.

Catalina

 

[WriterDom]

As it is not intended for answering posts, I for one don't expect replies, but know if there are any they will come up in my email as that handy feature allows. Why can't you accept what is being voted on the poll you created, and where did you get the impression you could tell Miss Taken or myself as the moderators of the forum, what action to take in the light of opposing votes and opinions of posters? I understand for some reason it bothers you tremendously, but that does not give you the right to say to hell with what anyone else wants, do it my way.

Catalina

It doesn't bother me cat, keep it. I have supported it from the beginning and will continue to post to it. It is a shame that suggesting changing something is considered an attack on you or misstaken. Being a Mod doesn't give you ownership. There are people who have been here a lot longer than you.

 

[catalina_francisco]

It doesn't bother me cat, keep it. I have supported it from the beginning and will continue to post to it. It is a shame that suggesting changing something is considered an attack on you or misstaken. Being a Mod doesn't give you ownership. There are people who have been here a lot longer than you.

WD, I do not claim ownership, but as co-moderator have assumed with Miss Taken some sort of responsibility to the running of the forum. As part of this community and one who does do a substantial amount both on and off screen to try and make it a more popular, useful, friendly, and suited place to many as opposed to few, I feel a sense of responsibility in upholding the majority vote when it is expressed as you requested it be. That comes with the responsibility of taking on position of moderator, and though it may not win you friends, it does protect people's right to have their views listened to and not squashed and disregarded because they do not turn out as you or someone else expected.

I was not objecting or suggesting you wanting change was an attack, but saw your words directing Miss Taken to remove the sticky for now as overstepping expression of a want and making it a demand of her, especially as the majority vote to leave it as it is and where it is, is still rising, while your choice to remove it is not attracting any new votes.

I am also aware there are a few people who have been here longer than me, but fail to see the relevance unless you are claiming that gives some form of ownership as you seem to want to accuse me of thinking in relation to myself. I do not think it matters if someone has been here 3 years or 3 days, what they do as part of the community here in that time does, and makes the forum what it is. For example, if you are here for 3 years but only post a few lines say once a month at most, do you think that will keep the forum alive if we all do the same? Unfortunately we have already lost a lot of our loved and valued posters due to such disputes on the board, and see several postings lamenting their absence (even this week)....some of those who have left still vow now they will not return. I do what I can to make sure we do not lose anymore, and attract some new ones at the same time as the way I see it a discussion board is nothing without it's posters.

I want to thank you because though this discussion has raised the feelings of many and caused some disruption I personally would have preferred it didn't, as I am sure you also did not intend or wish to happen, it has increased the activity this week which was becoming a bit slow as happens from time to time. Not perhaps the best way to generate postings, but it has created thought and discussion and from that hopefully will come more discussions as the brain cells spark into action. I always try and find a positive in every negative, has been my catchphrase for several years..and this increased activity is the positive I find at the moment.

Catalina

 

[WriterDom]

I don't recall directing MissTaken to do anything. I would like to direct her in a few things, but nothing to do with this forum.

Do you feel I order you around MissT?

 

[catalina_francisco]

I don't recall directing MissTaken to do anything. I would like to direct her in a few things, but nothing to do with this forum.

Do you feel I order you around MissT?

Guess then, like with others here of recent days, it is all up to interpretation. Sorry if I got it wrong, but my reading of this :

You can close it for a while, and compare the two and make a comparison.

was tantamount to giving her permission and directing her to close the thread. Of course you could see it as a suggestion too, but given you made your suggestions from the beginning of this thread, and this was not spoken in the same manner of 'I think....', I felt it was more directive in an effort to try another way to have it closed as you feel should happen. I still can't see why it bothers you to this degree but have just about given up trying to understand it.

Catalina

 

[WriterDom]

Guess then, like with others here of recent days, it is all up to interpretation. Sorry if I got it wrong, but my reading of this :

You can close it for a while, and compare the two and make a comparison.

was tantamount to giving her permission and directing her to close the thread. Of course you could see it as a suggestion too, but given you made your suggestions from the beginning of this thread, and this was not spoken in the same manner of 'I think....', I felt it was more directive in an effort to try another way to have it closed as you feel should happen. I still can't see why it bothers you to this degree but have just about given up trying to understand it.

Catalina

No, that was to you. What I mean was if you want to compare an open thread views to a locked thread views you either have to open them both or lock them both. A thread that people are posting to will naturally have more views. Many more as people check to see what a new person wrote.

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

The fewer the stickys the better in my view. IMHO this one has run its course and it is time for some housecleaning.

Let's just review, shall we?

WD. Can you own up to the fact that you MIGHT just have had a baddddd idea here, and OOPS, this whole thing perchance has blown up in your face?

One of the finest qualities in a dom is one who can admit he's wrong, or can admit he's made a mistake. Can you?

~anelize

On the up side, it has generated some rather interesting discussion.

 

[WriterDom]

Re: Re: Should the shameless plug sticky be unstuck or replaced?

I never claimed to right. I put it to a vote, and lost. You win some and you lose some. The fact that the cafe exists is your loss. Did I rub it in your face?

Let's just review, shall we?

WD. Can you own up to the fact that you MIGHT just have had a baddddd idea here, and OOPS, this whole thing perchance has blown up in your face?

One of the finest qualities in a dom is one who can admit he's wrong, or can admit he's made a mistake. Can you?

~anelize

On the up side, it has generated some rather interesting discussion.

 

[WriterDom]

It was a win win thing for me anyway. The thread has had 400 more views since my post. And I have used it as much as anyone. But I still feel I'm right. If not I'd be happy to say I was wrong.

 

[MissTaken]

Well, unless the poll shows some drastic, albeit realistic changes, it looks like the sticky thread will remain as is.

Thank you for the poll WD.

 

[WriterDom]

Well, unless the poll shows some drastic, albeit realistic changes, it looks like the sticky thread will remain as is.

Thank you for the poll WD.

I demand a roll call. Too many hanging chads.