Slavespace

[shy slave]

Bump..

 

[the captians wench]

Bump..

interesting bump. I was actually thinking about this thread today.

 

[shy slave]

interesting bump. I was actually thinking about this thread today.

That is scary.

Maybe we were co-joined twins separated shortly after birth...

 

[the captians wench]

just musing

 

[Netzach]

I get very mellow and calm on my knees in front of him, and very calm when he's bossing me around or twisting me into compromising positions. I don't know if there's a buzzword for that, but it's kind of interesting.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I hadn't considered the concept of slavespace before but now I have read the OPs I can strongly identify with it. Subspace is a very selfish place to be and when I go there I am of virtually no use to Master.

Slavespace is very different. It's like everything else has been kicked out of my head so that my response times to whatever he wants are faster. I don't consider my actions on any level, I simply obey as though my body were an extension of his own and under his implicit command in the same way.

The pleasure is still there and I get a huge kick from slavespace even though I remain focused and grounded in what's happening (the opposite of my reaction to subspace where I float off on a cloud and leave Master to his own devices). In many ways I get more of a long term kick from slavespace because I can be confident that I have served him to the limit of my physical ability.

Many times I have emerged from subspace feeling as though he has been effectively serving me and although I enjoy it when he chooses to take me there, it's not a form of service IMO, rather a reward for service that I've earned over time.

 

[intothewoods]

That's all slavespace is? Well, I've been there, but I don't consider myself a slave. I feel like that is a very submissive place for my head to be, but the word "subspace" (I take it) refers to that floaty endorphin rush you get from a spanking/flogging/blah blah. I think "subspace" should be renamed.

 

[Netzach]

That's all slavespace is? Well, I've been there, but I don't consider myself a slave. I feel like that is a very submissive place for my head to be, but the word "subspace" (I take it) refers to that floaty endorphin rush you get from a spanking/flogging/blah blah. I think "subspace" should be renamed.

I agree, I think it's just basically somewhat high and it will work on anyone who has few enough hangups to try an erotic spanking whose brain chemistry rolls that way. We don't call it that when Doms go for a run, but it's the same thing.

ETA - It's the same thing I guess if they are running with this really hot woman whispering sweet blowjob related things in their ears, that is.

 

[Netzach]

Actually, I've been curious about whether any of the following things link up:

1. erotic hypnosis

2. impact play

3. repetition


hm, eh?

 

[the captians wench]

That's all slavespace is? Well, I've been there, but I don't consider myself a slave. I feel like that is a very submissive place for my head to be, but the word "subspace" (I take it) refers to that floaty endorphin rush you get from a spanking/flogging/blah blah. I think "subspace" should be renamed.

I've thought about that too. That's why I was suprised to hear the term when I first did. When i space out, most of the time my focas goes to him. I loose all since of inhibition and just listen, serve, obey. The first time I reached that point where I was totally floating off in my own pleasure i was in shock. That moment was all about me (he intended to create that moment knowing how I felt on the matter). It was a magical treat, but not what I would call a submissive feeling. Lots of grattitude in there, but not many subby thoughts

 

[intothewoods]

Frankly, for me, I don't feel subby or unsubby. Just kinda high. And I rarely get it. I'm kind of surprised by the descriptions I sometimes read that go something like, I paddled her 10 times, she then entered subspace and I paddled her some more. I mean, really? Isn't the endorphin rush kind of a safety thing? So I have to really have my pain boundaries pushed.

 

[the captians wench]

Frankly, for me, I don't feel subby or unsubby. Just kinda high. And I rarely get it. I'm kind of surprised by the descriptions I sometimes read that go something like, I paddled her 10 times, she then entered subspace and I paddled her some more. I mean, really? Isn't the endorphin rush kind of a safety thing? So I have to really have my pain boundaries pushed.

I progress into a few different stages, and with the right person they could call any one of those stages up at any point.

I get a 'sub head' I call it just from being around certian domly people in my life. It's a state of thought where I consider his concerns before mine, but don't always follow his if I am not directly ordered to.

"Pet space" as I call it, is a place I go where I'm just cute and cuddly and wraped up in getting his attention. This may include service to him, may not

'slave head' is where my focas is on him and his needs dispite what mine are. In this place I will do things I don't particularly enjoy, just to please him, but I am fully aware of what I am doing and that I'm not enjoying it.

'sub space' is a place of eurphoria where everything feels good and I just enjoy what is being done, or what I am doing (I have slipped into this while cock sucking on many occation) tho I am inservice to him, I'm more concerned with what this is doing for me, than what it's doing for him.

'slave space' I totally loose myself as a person. I no longer exist. All that maters is him, what he needs, what he wants, what's pleasing to him. I have done things in this space that I would never imagine doing in any other condition and yet I don't feel as if I did them. It's a total hypnotic state.

I'm sure there's a few more, but that's what I can think of off of the top of my head.

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

Its good to have a Master that understands the way your head works.

so true

 

[BiBunny]

I progress into a few different stages, and with the right person they could call any one of those stages up at any point.

I get a 'sub head' I call it just from being around certian domly people in my life. It's a state of thought where I consider his concerns before mine, but don't always follow his if I am not directly ordered to.

"Pet space" as I call it, is a place I go where I'm just cute and cuddly and wraped up in getting his attention. This may include service to him, may not

'slave head' is where my focas is on him and his needs dispite what mine are. In this place I will do things I don't particularly enjoy, just to please him, but I am fully aware of what I am doing and that I'm not enjoying it.

'sub space' is a place of eurphoria where everything feels good and I just enjoy what is being done, or what I am doing (I have slipped into this while cock sucking on many occation) tho I am inservice to him, I'm more concerned with what this is doing for me, than what it's doing for him.

'slave space' I totally loose myself as a person. I no longer exist. All that maters is him, what he needs, what he wants, what's pleasing to him. I have done things in this space that I would never imagine doing in any other condition and yet I don't feel as if I did them. It's a total hypnotic state.

I'm sure there's a few more, but that's what I can think of off of the top of my head.

*Sigh* I find myself missing pet space a lot.

/end maudlin Bunny

 

[FungiUg]

Actually, I've been curious about whether any of the following things link up:
1. erotic hypnosis
2. impact play
3. repetition

I think with repetition comes reinforcement, a form of "programming" if you will. So I'd say that combination would work quite well. Have you tried it?

 

[Netzach]

I think with repetition comes reinforcement, a form of "programming" if you will. So I'd say that combination would work quite well. Have you tried it?

I think that a lot of what pushes people being flogged in the way that I've seen and done most flogging is not pain at all - it's often totally non-painful let's face it, to hit someone with a soft hide flogger - and I think that people are trancing on the repetition and rhythm. I really do. I think that's a lot of why subs/bottoms get to that sort of squishy suggestible zone from play that isn't pushing them to their tolerances pain wise or even trancing people into eroticizing more pain than they would "cold"

I guess maybe "warmed up" is as much a function of hypno or a hypno-like state as it is sensation. Just a possibility based on a lot of observation.

 

[midwestyankee]

I would add in the single-minded (but soft-minded) focus on the activity at hand (or at one's backside) as a major factor in creating the endorphin surge. To me it seems not unlike the state that one can enter through meditation, which I see as a sort of soft-minded focus plus repetition.

 

[nh23]

I read an interesting article about subspace awhile back. It said there are basically three types of subspace.
1. Floating- which a lot of us call flying. The euphoric feeling.
2. OOB- An out of body experience where the pyl is blindfolded, yet can still come out of it and tell her PYL every move made.
3. Disassociation- Like a trigger is hit and you go somewhere else in your mind to get away, or the pain level is so high that you leave your mind to get away.

I've experienced #'s 1 and 3. I enjoy them both. I know #3 probably isn't the healthiest..lol, but I do enjoy it.

Now what you are calling slavespace I've always just called in my subbie headspace. I'm not a slave..but when I'm in the headspace nothing exists except for Him. I would do anything and everything he asks without a second thought. Hard limit or not. Which is why I have to trust my PYL to get to that comfort level. Of course I'd not be in my subbie headspace while bottoming etc..Just with my Dom, so it's ok. I trust him not to do something I may not be ok with later.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I think that a lot of what pushes people being flogged in the way that I've seen and done most flogging is not pain at all - it's often totally non-painful let's face it, to hit someone with a soft hide flogger - and I think that people are trancing on the repetition and rhythm. I really do. I think that's a lot of why subs/bottoms get to that sort of squishy suggestible zone from play that isn't pushing them to their tolerances pain wise or even trancing people into eroticizing more pain than they would "cold"

I guess maybe "warmed up" is as much a function of hypno or a hypno-like state as it is sensation. Just a possibility based on a lot of observation.

Master has pulled this one on me a few times. Once he's worked me into subspace and I've floated off, he'll carry on with the impact play or thrusting or whatever he's up to and his voice is hypnotic. I will climax on demand, I will squirt on demand. He has total control of my mind and body when I am in that state. When I come round I have no idea how much time has passed or even total recall of what happened. Hypnotism is the closest word I have for it.

 

[Daddyslilpet]

I don't think I've ever even gotten close to sub-space much less slave-space honestly. Daddy is usually talking to me too much and making me answer him, so I have to stay focused enough to form answers. Although I'm pretty sure sometimes they don't make much sense... He's laughed at me a few times over an answer given.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I don't think I've ever even gotten close to sub-space much less slave-space honestly. Daddy is usually talking to me too much and making me answer him, so I have to stay focused enough to form answers. Although I'm pretty sure sometimes they don't make much sense... He's laughed at me a few times over an answer given.

Yeah, Master knows I'm on my way when I start repeating things that he says. He has had to check me on that before.

"Get on your knees!"

"... Get on... your knees"

SLAP!

 

[catalina_francisco]

I don't think I've ever even gotten close to sub-space much less slave-space honestly. Daddy is usually talking to me too much and making me answer him, so I have to stay focused enough to form answers. Although I'm pretty sure sometimes they don't make much sense... He's laughed at me a few times over an answer given.

You and me both. LOL, I feel blessed I am not one of the many who seem to drift into subspace at the mere suggestion of a flogging etc., as it would not fare well for me in terms of punishment I expect. He says he may take me to subspace someday just to let me experience it, but other than that it is definately a no-go zone he has no desire for me to visit. Suits me fine.

Catalina

 

[Netzach]

I'm not sure I'd enjoy playing with someone for whom the ONLY pleasure out of being slapped is that I want to slap them, nor with someone who couldn't function at all after being slapped because they're too far gone - I guess I enjoy kind of a middle path. A trip to endorphin la la land is not my idea of important service to me, but I don't feel like it's serving the bottom to periodically go there either - more an interesting function of chemistry and emotion which I didn't get to examine with a vanilla partner.