Stories you hate.

[jsmiam]

an observation (and the total lack of info from lit for statistics applies, but different topic), I “land” at either the main home page, the black and white drawing of the girl, I believe it’s the “old” interface, or the “search stories” page. I also click into the categories links. Tags are either not prominent and/or not present on those paths into lit. I’m betting I’m not the only one who goes in this way.

I do like the concept of tabs. I use them sometimes. But they’re not a “you can’t possibly miss them” thing.

 

[Djmac1031]

On the subject of incest porn: I don't HATE it, if it's well written. The ones that usually bug the hell out of me are the ones that read like this: "I noticed my mom's hot tits one day and decided I really wanted to fuck her, so I whipped out my big ten inch cock and she got so wet she just had to have it in her ass."

We've all stumbled on those, and skipped them lol

 

[KeithD]

We've all stumbled on those, and skipped them lol

No. Some--no, a lot--come here to read just that. Otherwise such stories wouldn't be here. And it's no one else's business if there are those who like to read or write those. There's a huge variety here for those who mind their own business to enjoy with no need of the judgment of others.

 

[lovecraft68]

On the subject of incest porn: I don't HATE it, if it's well written. The ones that usually bug the hell out of me are the ones that read like this: "I noticed my mom's hot tits one day and decided I really wanted to fuck her, so I whipped out my big ten inch cock and she got so wet she just had to have it in her ass."

We've all stumbled on those, and skipped them lol

I always use that example when I say that my taboo stories aren't "Look, Mom's tits yay!"

But there are people who like that stuff, and its not just taboo, every category has one handed porno strokers and longer more involved slow burn stories.

But for some reason the taboo ones are more annoying to me, maybe because I like to try to make mine have some form of reason for crossing the line.

 

[CyranoJ]

"Things like..." makes no sense here. These things are not remotely like one another and it's gross to conflate them like this. Gay love/sex is not parallel to rape. We don't warn readers for straight content.

Speaking as someone who writes in NC/R, I have to agree. Gay sex is vanilla sex, and the sooner we recognize that gay content is vanilla content, the better.

(Hangups over "butt stuff" contribute a sort of taboo appeal to "anal sex" but the magic of greater acceptance of gay sex is that "anal" loses its talismanic slut-shaming importance and just becomes another fun hot thing to do. Although, as always, losing out on talismanic slut-shaming importance will not be a thing that some people want.)

Categories like NC/R and Incest are, by contrast, very specifically fantasies about things that are taboo for legitimate reasons. What makes them attractive is that they're dangerous: the dark side of the human psyche. If writing a Romance story today, I would probably feel the need to clarify the existence of noncon content if I included it -- although the romance genre has not always been so punctilious, and the seeds of NC/R kink for me were actually romance novels, which get away with far raunchier shit than people who don't actually read them assume -- but I would not feel the need to do so for gayness or butt stuff.

 

[lovecraft68]

On the subject of incest porn: I don't HATE it, if it's well written. The ones that usually bug the hell out of me are the ones that read like this: "I noticed my mom's hot tits one day and decided I really wanted to fuck her, so I whipped out my big ten inch cock and she got so wet she just had to have it in her ass."

We've all stumbled on those, and skipped them lol

Double post.....

 

[lovecraft68]

"Things like..." makes no sense here. These things are not remotely like one another and it's gross to conflate them like this. Gay love/sex is not parallel to rape. We don't warn readers for straight content.

Yes, they're both common reader squicks, but for very different reasons. One is about people being reminded of actual RL trauma, the other is about reader bigotry. Many people are still offended by mixed-race relationships but the solution isn't to indulge them in that sensitivity, it's for those readers to get over themselves and join the 21st century.

I don't disagree with you in anyway, except I think the reason it is an issue here for some people, not all of course, is because lit has specific categories I think people think every story is going to fit in that specific box, which is why some flip when they get peanut butter in their chocolate.

The thing I find a little hypocritical here on the topic is that some of the people here saying GM can be in romance or anywhere else, are the same people that in many AH discussions since I have been here will talk about trump categories and those being

GM
NC/R
Taboo

New authors are told if your story carries those elements, you're best off to put them in those categories. Again, because we're talking here, not mainstream or erotic selling platforms or even other free sites, we're here, not in those places.

Yet here we're getting the GM can be anywhere for the sake of being argumentative. End of the day no one is telling, or can tell, or should tell people what to write and where, but what people can do is render a personal opinion, and we can also advise, if asked, where something will get the best result because the point here is to get the best result, not piss people off and get trolled.

Whether the trolling is warranted or not is another story, but it is what it is.

 

[KeithD]

Gay sex is vanilla sex,

Oh, wow, I've been doing it all wrong, if this is the case. I don't think you've read much gay male here. I think some of the gay sex I write, for instance, would curl your little toes.

 

[CyranoJ]

Oh, wow, I've been doing it all wrong, if this is the case. I don't think you've read much gay male here. I think some of the gay sex I write, for instance, would curl your little toes.

LOL, the statement is context-dependent of course. My bad. I should've really said: "gay sex is precisely as vanilla or non-vanilla as het sex is in equivalent situations," if that helps.

(And I believe you. )

 

[KeithD]

"gay sex is precisely as vanilla or non-vanilla as het sex is in equivalent situations," if that helps.

Yep, I can agree with that.

 

[lovecraft68]

LOL, the statement is context-dependent of course. My bad. I should've really said: "gay sex is precisely as vanilla or non-vanilla as het sex is in equivalent situations," if that helps.

(And I believe you. )

No, the issue was your comment was supposed to be taken in the context you meant it, you're replying to someone who can't be bothered reading an entire post and then just starts screeching.

 

[MelissaBaby]

Yeah, well, if you had actually read what I’ve been saying you would have known that I’m not talking about ME having problems with gays in romance stories.
The only thing I have been saying is that some readers get offended by gays (or non-consent, or BDSM, or anal, or whatever) turning up in a romance (or whatever) story when they haven’t been warned off beforehand, and that the current system is often failing in that regard.
But because YOU are convinced this isn’t going to change on Lit I’m not allowed to talk about it, even better, I should have just packed up and left as you told me.
You know what?
I’m already done with this forum.
Have a nice day sir.

I have published extensively in Romance. That has not been a problem.

 

[KeithD]

No, the issue was your comment was supposed to be taken in the context you meant it, you're replying to someone who can't be bothered reading an entire post and then just starts screeching.

I wondered when my personal (admitted) anger-management problem child stalker would show up to attack. Stick it up your ass, LC, you sick little puppy.

You just can't help yourself, can you? Your obsession and sickness can't stop you from stalking and attacking, can it?

 

[CyranoJ]

No, the issue was your comment was supposed to be taken in the context you meant it

Thanks, I guess, but we worked it out. Don't drag your personal shit with Pilot into the frame, please and thank you. You're both cunts (as are we all, let's be real) but if you imagine that you come across as the more sane party, that is just not the case.

 

[desecration]

I like reluctance and non consent fantasies, but the mandated "she says no but she really wants it" is scary and sickening to me.

As a person of no taste, I don't know what is distasteful or not, but my line is this:

I like fantasy. Fantasy should be unreal.

Elements that overlap with regular reality should be realistic however.

I wouldn't want to encourage people to assume that "no means yes."

Might help to have a disclaimer at the start of the story?

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As far as things I dislike about stories...

* Inconsistent characters: one minute she's a virginial nun, the next minute she's talking like a prostitute and seems experienced with group anal.
* Yeah, the incest is lame. I blame Game of Thrones to be honesty.
* Aimless, wandering lead-up full of details unrelated to the characters as they are.
* Lengthy rambling dialogue.
* Hackneyed scenes that don't try for a unique take or at least having fun with themselves.

In my view, fantasy should be an escape... but also let us know something about ourselves. Like, why are we attracted to what attracts us, or what it would be like to act something out to the point that it loses its novelty and we have to wonder if it would keep our attention.

 

[Somehowyou]

The question here is I want to know what kind of stories do you absolutely hate. Now to clarify I do not mean any specific stories, but more along of story genre.

I will start off. What I absolutely hate is where the spouse gets cuckold. He/she hates it and does nothing about it. It does not have to be a BTB. If the spouse just leaves I'm fine with it.

Then don't read them. Stay the fuck away from them. I am sick and tired reading comments about people that hate Cuck/Hotwife/Stag stories. There are plenty of other stories for you to read. No need to read the entire story and leave negative a comment. I get it. It is just not your thing. Then pass and go somewhere else.

 

[KeithD]

Amen.

I don't need to hear what others individually hate to read. Does that person seriously think I'm then going to cater just to them? Screw that.

 

[rescatooor]

I mostly don't mind as long as the grammar is decent enough to make the text readable. I personally like a bit of a transtwist in romance stories. I find them wholesome.

I am more worried about some general trends. There's so much female infantalization in media. It's one thing if it's a roleplay fetish or something along those lines, but seeing its popularity creeps me out.

 

[NightPorter]

Burn the bitch stories.

You know the type. Bitter little revenge stories that are too self righteous to take seriously. Not my thing.

 

[AngelaSaxon]

I absolutely have no idea whatsoever how the incest thing has taken off like it has in lit AND porn. Make zero sense to me. So I get that style, but moreso how it has become SO ubiquitous.

As a general rule porn content is determined not by what a majority want, but what a minority want and a majority will tolerate.

Not sure how that dynamic operates here but it's usually present in some form.

Maybe the majority just say "I know they aren't related so with some discomfort I'll ignore that aspect" and the minority get their kink and everyone... becomes a viewing audience for product?

Guessing...

 

[AngelaSaxon]

This. This a thousand times. I like reluctance and non consent fantasies, but the mandated "she says no but she really wants it" is scary and sickening to me. It's FAR more distasteful than the things it bans.

I hate it too, the she-came-to-like-it stuff eg every Ashson non-con I've ever read.

And it is far more repulsive than a thousand non-con stories without that Actual Rapist Ideology.

But if the rule really wasn't there, I think you would find people discovering ways to use that absence to make you realise that, in fact, it can be more repulsive without it...