Stories you hate.

[Earthlyone]

I just don’t read what I find distasteful, so I don’t “hate” them, I just dismiss them. The stories I dislike the most are interracial stories that dehumanize black
men and turn them into little more than living sex toys. I realize that is not unique to Interracial stories, but I find it particularly irksome in that context

Funnily enough, you don't really hear of black guys themselves complaining about this.

 

[Earthlyone]

I absolutely have no idea whatsoever how the incest thing has taken off like it has in lit AND porn. Make zero sense to me. So I get that style, but moreso how it has become SO ubiquitous.

I'm quite partial to incest fiction, but 90% of the stories on here are ridiculous and unrealistic.

 

[AngstIgnored]

Hmm. The stuff I really can’t abide is when one or more people completely disrespect the person they’re ‘getting busy’ with in a story.

Hard core brutality, not just roleplaying BSDM, but what is basically blatantly hard core rape content, of which there is a *lot* of posted here bugs me to death though. It’s often by authors that call it merely reluctant or CNC when it’s actually far closer to actual rape than either of those lighter variants.

I’m fairly thick-skinned most of the time, but I’m rather disgusted when those stories make it past the filtering process, but it’s not my rodeo.

As a result, I usually don’t read anything in that category at all. By the same taken, there are a few categories that don’t apply to me or my interests at all, which I also skip, but for notably different reasons.

 

[AngelRider]

The question here is I want to know what kind of stories do you absolutely hate. Now to clarify I do not mean any specific stories, but more along of story genre.

I will start off. What I absolutely hate is where the spouse gets cuckold. He/she hates it and does nothing about it. It does not have to be a BTB. If the spouse just leaves I'm fine with it.

1. Rape fetish stories, of which there are numerous on this site. Oh yeah I know "the woman likes it in the story" give me a break. It's called a red herring.
2. Stories that promote racist tropes and stereotypes. You know, the ones which present black men as driven by nothing more than wanting sex with white women?
3. Not so much a story, but posts and comments by those who whine about words like "hatred" you know, the faux outrage that is nothing more than thinly veiled moral smug superiority. Virtue signaling and all that. Look at how progressive I am. Retch.

 

[AngelRider]

Funnily enough, you don't really hear of black guys themselves complaining about this.

That is not true. Maybe not on here but hell, how can we sure anyway? No one knows who we really are or where we come from. I am white and my brother is married to a Haitian woman. We work together sometimes depending on our schedules. She is my best friend and we have talked about how black people are often portrayed often. My first husband was native American. I still care about him even if he is a bastard but I also know how important native issues are to him and his family. I always defend those subjects out of respect not just for what's right but because he was a decent and lovely man once upon a time. I do it for that memory and his family and people. I argue against rape exploitation because I work with victims. I will bitch the fuck out people who are bigots about interracial marriage and relationships both because I was in one and my niece and nephew are biracial.

It should never be just the responsibility of those being exploited or dehumanizing.

Sorry for ranting at you. I am passionate about certain subjects.

 

[lovecraft68]

Burn the bitch stories. Seriously, when did hatred become a kink?

 

[lovecraft68]

That is not true. Maybe not on here but hell, how can we sure anyway? No one knows who we really are or where we come from. I am white and my brother is married to a Haitian woman. We work together sometimes depending on our schedules. She is my best friend and we have talked about how black people are often portrayed often. My first husband was native American. I still care about him even if he is a bastard but I also know how important native issues are to him and his family. I always defend those subjects out of respect not just for what's right but because he was a decent and lovely man once upon a time. I do it for that memory and his family and people. I argue against rape exploitation because I work with victims. I will bitch the fuck out people who are bigots about interracial marriage and relationships both because I was in one and my niece and nephew are biracial.

It should never be just the responsibility of those being exploited or dehumanizing.

Sorry for ranting at you. I am passionate about certain subjects.

I have said it for years, and will continue to do so, all the BBC hotwife stories and almost all of the IR stories on sites like this and in the pay market are nothing but racist bullshit.

Let's start with the biggest point...the white woman is portrayed as being trashy or even more of a whore (to the anti cheat crowd) for being with a black man.

In this day and age if you see IR sex as a taboo-definition, something society frowns upon-then you're racist.

Also the black bull is almost always portrayed a thug who demeans the white husband, and often demeans the woman as well, all the while acting like a barely literate animal who's sole purpose in life is to stick his cock in white women.

I have written some hotwife stories, none feature the BBC, I won't go down that trash route.

Any interracial sex I have written has simply been sex between two characters who happen to be of different ethnicities, other tan referencing the fact two bodies with different skin tones is a sexy contrast, I do not sexualize their racial differences, they're people having sex.

Beyond that and in real life, I find it ironic how the people who scream "racismmmm and equality the most, are the people who have to always add color to a sentence "My black friend, that black woman over there, my trans neighbor, my gay cousin."

If everyone is to be treated the same-as they should be-why does their color, gender, sexuality, always have to be called out?

When its "My friend, that woman over there, my cousin..." you're showing true equality and inclusiveness, otherwise all you're doing is trying to act "woke" and 'woke people" are this countries biggest racists bar none.

 

[waratah]

Totally hate incest stories.

Hate stories that give away the ending in the introduction.

Mostly dislike 'perfect' stories. Too neat, the speech sounds rehearsed, the reactions text book.

Fervently dislike reactions that default to violence. Spouse cheats, so I broke both their legs with a baseball bat. Unless your character is psychotic (in which case that reaction is predictable and understandable), then that's not ok. Suing, embarrassing, some reputational damage would be fair reactions .

Also dislike stories that turn into alphabet agency spy thrillers.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't hate any stories, or any types of stories. There are certain kinds of stories, like the "revenge against the cheating woman" stories that I do not enjoy because I do not find them erotic, but I don't categorically hate them. Some of those stories are well written, even if they are not to my taste.

The way I see it, we all have our own different, twisted, dark, fantasy worlds. and this is a fun place for us to explore those worlds without people getting all angry and judgmental about others' kinks.

 

[CyranoJ]

There are kinks I don't connect with, but I don't "hate" them. I'm wary of people who appear to try to puff themselves up at the expense of Those Perverts (whoever Those Perverts are in their discourse).

I don't "hate" stories, per se. Don't have the energy for it. But there are specific takes on certain kinks that I'll check out of pretty quickly, I have to admit: IR stories that lean heavily into straight-ahead racial stereotyping, NC/R stories that are really just misogynistic screeds or power fantasies couched as erotic content (these are both genres I write in, so I'm not judging the kinks, I just have to back away from certain approaches to them), and Incest stories whose premise is that incest is the basic equivalent of vanilla sex. (I'm not really a particular fan of Incest, although I don't absolutely dislike it and one of my stories does feature an occurrence of it.)

There are some basic writing foibles that will also make me check out: realizing the author doesn't understand the anatomy they're talking about, or in some other way appears not to know how sex works, is a really big one. IDK about "hating" those stories but I definitely won't go on investing time in them.

 

[Tigersman]

What I dislike is not necessarily the story but the way it was written. When I first joined Lit I read so many stories that the author had no idea how to spell or what a dictionary is for. I've seen consistency problems involving names of characters, body parts and clothing. Finding stories written this bad takes all the enjoyment out of the story.

 

[Stillrandy]

Things in stories that I dislike (preferable to the word ‘hate’):

• Pregnancy arising from, or the object of, the sex in I/T stories; even worse when the parent & child get married….
• Where the participants have to be drunk to bypass their inhibitions.
• Where the author feels it necessary to have the protagonists take pictures or video to show others.
• Of course, when there are too many spelling errors, typos, or grammar goofs.

 

[mirafrida]

I do have to roll my eyes sometimes when a story seems to exhibit zero imagination and has nothing new to say. If we've already read that same basic story many times before, what is the point?

Having said that, I can't find it in my heart to *hate* even those stories. The idea of hating stories strikes me as odd actually. Like, why do people give "1s"? If I dislike a story, I assume it's just not my personal thing, but must appeal to someone. Even the most doltish story will have someone who loves it, and I can live with that. I find "hit the back-button and move on" a much more comfortable approach...

 

[WhoNeedsAUsername]

I absolutely have no idea whatsoever how the incest thing has taken off like it has in lit AND porn. Make zero sense to me. So I get that style, but moreso how it has become SO ubiquitous.

For me the appeal of an incest story is that the sexual desire is so great that it overrides the taboo and societal norms. I totally understand how it could be a turnoff though as it can be hard to separate the fantasy from the real world experience (which is one of the reasons I don't like incest stories between the younger and older generation).

 

[Banbeck]

There are no genre’s I hate, just genre’s I dislike and/or am not interested in.

And I do wonder about the existence of a genre like incest.
More specifically, I wonder why you are allowed to write about a father fucking his daughter but not allowed to write about a man fucking his donkey, unless it has wings and you call it a dragon.
I find this rather curious…

I also think the category structure Lit uses is, well, less than optimal.
Some categories seem not that well named, like “Loving Wives” for instance, which is mainly about slut wives (and no, I have nothing against sluts, regardless of their marital status.)
And why unnecessarily limit a category by naming it “Interracial Love”.
There already exists a category for love, it is called “Romance”, and now where does all the interracial sex that has nothing to do with love go.
Another one is the existence of very specific categories like “Mind Control” and “First Time” while genres as broad as sci-fi and fantasy are thrown together in one single category.
The logic behind it all escapes me.

And then there’s the problem that anything not written to get people off in a couple of thousand words is bound to cross categories anyway.
A problem that becomes rather frustrating when a certain category of readers starts to deal out “1’s” because someone dared to include a scene they think doesn’t “belong” in “their category”.
Which then ruins the whole purpose behind the scoring system; separating the good stuff from the bad stuff.
In my opinion the current category system isn’t very good at helping you find the stories you’re looking for.
I think there should be a check list for the authors to fill in when they submit a story.
And this checklist should contain all the common basic features a story might contain.
You could then have a search page where readers could check these same features with either “Yes”, “No”, or “Don’t care”.
Something like this would make it pretty easy for a search engine to come up with the right stories for the right readers.
Just my 2 cents...

 

[SimonDoom]

I understand people not liking incest stories. I do not understand people professing to have no understanding why incest stories are popular. It's completely obvious why they are popular. If you claim not to understand, you are not paying any attention to thousands of years of culture, to human psychology, and to the way people think about what is erotic. You are being obtuse.

We live in an increasingly liberal world with fewer taboos. Incest still is highly taboo. In the US, consensual adult sex between a father-daughter/mother-son/ or sister-brother is illegal in most states. And even if it's not strictly illegal, it's disapproved of and taboo.

That's what makes it so erotic. It's really simple.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I think there should be a check list for the authors to fill in when they submit a story.

That's the purpose of the Tag system, which gives authors ten tags to describe the story's content.

It's not clear to me what you think such a checklist would contain. Surely you're not asking authors to list every single element that might turn someone off?

 

[Banbeck]

That's the purpose of the Tag system, which gives authors ten tags to describe the story's content.

It's not clear to me what you think such a checklist would contain. Surely you're not asking authors to list every single element that might turn someone off?

That's exactly what I'm asking for, because the tag system doesn't really work.
And I don't think such a list would have to be very long.
The list of "usual suspects" where it comes to story elements that have a serious potential to turn readers off is limited.

The time needed to write a story is expressed in hours, days, or weeks, and sometimes even months.
So I don't think spending a couple of minutes checking boxes on a checklist when submitting a story will be a problem.

As an author I see this as a small investment in time with potentially huge benefits; reaching all readers instead of just the ones that check the category I listed the story under, and avoiding the readers that aren't going to be happy with my story and "1 bomb" it.
And as a reader it would spare me hours checking out stories that turn out not to be my cup of tea, time better spend reading stories I do like.

 

[gordo12]

That's exactly what I'm asking for, because the tag system doesn't really work.
And I don't think such a list would have to be very long.
The list of "usual suspects" where it comes to story elements that have a serious potential to turn readers off is limited.

The time needed to write a story is expressed in hours, days, or weeks, and sometimes even months.
So I don't think spending a couple of minutes checking boxes on a checklist when submitting a story will be a problem.

As an author I see this as a small investment in time with potentially huge benefits; reaching all readers instead of just the ones that check the category I listed the story under, and avoiding the readers that aren't going to be happy with my story and "1 bomb" it.
And as a reader it would spare me hours checking out stories that turn out not to be my cup of tea, time better spend reading stories I do like.

And you would be willing to pay how much for the privilege of us spending more time on the free entertainment you get?

 

[Banbeck]

And you would be willing to pay how much for the privilege of us spending more time on the free entertainment you get?

I happen to spend more time writing stories for Lit than reading stories on Lit, so you're barking up the wrong tree here.

And like I said, something like this should take up a couple of minutes at most, an insignificant amount of time compared to the amount of time invested in writing a story.

 

[KeithD]

That's exactly what I'm asking for, because the tag system doesn't really work.
And I don't think such a list would have to be very long.
The list of "usual suspects" where it comes to story elements that have a serious potential to turn readers off is limited.

The time needed to write a story is expressed in hours, days, or weeks, and sometimes even months.
So I don't think spending a couple of minutes checking boxes on a checklist when submitting a story will be a problem.

As an author I see this as a small investment in time with potentially huge benefits; reaching all readers instead of just the ones that check the category I listed the story under, and avoiding the readers that aren't going to be happy with my story and "1 bomb" it.
And as a reader it would spare me hours checking out stories that turn out not to be my cup of tea, time better spend reading stories I do like.

I don't know what basis you have for the tag system not working here (other than it would be better placed up front for stories), but the system you suggest would be fine too and is the one used at another major story site. I post to both sites and both systems are fine with me, one not taking much more time than the other. I use both systems to find stories I'm looking for and they both seem to work pretty well. I don't think we need both systems here, though, and I can't see that you could have any real evidence that the tag system used here doesn't work.

 

[Banbeck]

I don't know what basis you have for the tag system not working here (other than it would be better placed up front for stories), but the system you suggest would be fine too and is the one used at another major story site. I post to both sites and both systems are fine with me, one not taking much more time than the other. I use both systems to find stories I'm looking for and they both seem to work pretty well. I don't think we need both systems here, though, and I can't see that you could have any real evidence that the tag system used here doesn't work.

Well, maybe I’m doing something wrong, but when I chose a category I don’t see any “tag” info.
This info only becomes available after you have already selected a story, and even then it’s often not very informative.
I just clicked on a story in Sci-Fi & Fantasy for instance, and the only thing its tags revealed was “sci-fi.”
Now that really helped…
And when I use the story search function I can search for tags, but I can’t exempt tags I don’t want.
So I end up with a list of stories not including any tag information, and I’ll have to select stories again to find out about all their tags.
And even then, if the author failed to mention something I don’t like in the story’s tags I’ll find out on page “x” and have wasted an “x” amount of time again.
But hey, maybe I missed something, so feel free to educate me

 

[KeithD]

If it means so much to you and you can't do your own searching on the functions provided here, perhaps you need to move over to the other major story site. I haven't had trouble working in both systems. If you don't know what the other site is, PM me and I'll tell you where it is. Maybe you can get more value for your investment over there.

 

[Banbeck]

If it means so much to you and you can't do your own searching on the functions provided here, perhaps you need to move over to the other major story site. I haven't had trouble working in both systems. If you don't know what the other site is, PM me and I'll tell you where it is. Maybe you can get more value for your investment over there.

No, I haven’t a clue which site you’re talking about.
It isn’t that I dislike Lit, it’s just that I think this is something important that should be improved to everyone’s benefit, Lit itself included.
The only other thing I personally dislike with Lit is lifting the 16+ barrier to 18+ for some reason, simply because it forces me to forego on realism when young people are part of a story.

 

[KeithD]

No, I haven’t a clue which site you’re talking about.
It isn’t that I dislike Lit, it’s just that I think this is something important that should be improved to everyone’s benefit, Lit itself included.
The only other thing I personally dislike with Lit is lifting the 16+ barrier to 18+ for some reason, simply because it forces me to forego on realism when young people are part of a story.

Getting user suggestions adopted at Literotica is pretty much just so much spitting in the wind. For the price, you'll find it less frustrating to either adapt or go to something you've indicated is more to your liking. I've told you that such a site exists and offered to tell you privately where it is. It would be bad form to plug a competing site to Literotica on the Literotica discussion board. Your decision where to go from here, but I do believe, from a wealth of experience here, that making enhancement suggestions here is just so much spitting into the wind.