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[annaswirls]

Rejections are always so disappointing.
Sometimes its better to choose another forum. Our last paper got rejected (with some helpful criticism) so we decided on another journal after I made changes. It took them 6 months to get back to us!

A scientific journal? Those rejections hurt, I know, I live with a guy who gets them on occasion. Hurts especially when you are in line for tenure!

 

[annaswirls]

Thanks Chip-- you picked out the part of Tzed's post that helped me as well.

I know all of these things to be true, but it is good to hear them when in the not-so-logical state of mind.

I like the idea of going as an outsider. It is actually REALLY empowering. I feel more like a rebel.

I actually just found out the person in charge of the anthology reading committee is, well, shall we say, much more rounded than edgy, and the stuff I sent, well, you know. I forget, being raised on a porn site, that not everyone is so cool with more controversial writing, because to me, it just seems normal.

I read a few times at a poetry slam kind of thing in Baltimore. The emcee was one of those young dreadlock alt lifestyle kind of guys. The one time he introduced me and was shaking his head. "Can't figure this one out. One week she takes us on a hike with her sons and the next poem ends in a good ass fuck. Let's see what it's gonna be tonight."


So yes, thank you for reminding me that it is okay to not fit into a particular anthology, and who posted that maybe I was off when I thought my stuff would fit in and you are RIGHT. My tamer stuff would have blended in better, but I submitted some harsh works. I did not consider the audience or the committee.

No worries. IT will be a good time. I need to get off this board and line up a sitter now!

it's all a part of the process for most, but Tzara hits it on the head with this:


if you can get things straight in your head, still go. listen, and you might realise some aren't what you'd call 'hot to trot', or they might be brilliant pieces. or even decent poetry that ends up sucking donkey balls because a lot of people are rubbish at reading their work aloud. One group i worked with (a book was put out) recorded our same pieces onto a c.d - most of those poems (including mine) got ruined by us reading them. sigh. it's life anyway, perhaps the selectors had some sort of theme in mind as they chose the works that would be read out, like a poet often has to theme a body of work for a work and not just have random pieces taking the reader in all directions at once.

rejection sucks, but hey - move on

 

[annaswirls]

Have you ever considered that you're too good for them? I've tried other sites than this one and they are not interested in doing anything else than patting each others backs for very mediocre stuff bordering on the down right awful

you are so sweet. I will put this in my pocket for confidence

 

[EroticOrogeny]

A scientific journal? Those rejections hurt, I know, I live with a guy who gets them on occasion. Hurts especially when you are in line for tenure!

Yes - I'm not academic now, but still looked at by various bosses.

 

[radcliff1234]

Awesome post...............i like it thanks for sharing


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[annaswirls]

So.....

I just found out that the Festival Organizer had poetry that did not get accepted into Mannequin Envy, same with an anthology committee member. Not saying that this means I did not get in because of that, BUT it makes me feel better Only so many seats, y'know?

 

[butters]

Mannequin Envy?

 

[Angeline]

Mannequin Envy?

Mannequin Envy is a poetry and art zine conceived of by the lovely Ms Swirls and edited by her and the poet known here as the RainMan. Other wonderful poets, including some litsters have been published there. I believe Anna is taking a break from it for now, but I bet it'll be back. It's well worth spending some time reading there. It's a good place for poetry.

And the site is dedicated to the late Doug Gamrath, known here at Lit as smithpeter. Anna has posted a lot of his poetry there. If you haven't read him, well he is unique. He has been gone since 2004 but he is one of the most unique poets I've ever read, anywhere. If I had a genie, I would wish that smithpeter's poetry was famous.

 

[butters]

Mannequin Envy is a poetry and art zine conceived of by the lovely Ms Swirls and edited by her and the poet known here as the RainMan. Other wonderful poets, including some litsters have been published there. I believe Anna is taking a break from it for now, but I bet it'll be back. It's well worth spending some time reading there. It's a good place for poetry.

And the site is dedicated to the late Doug Gamrath, known here at Lit as smithpeter. Anna has posted a lot of his poetry there. If you haven't read him, well he is unique. He has been gone since 2004 but he is one of the most unique poets I've ever read, anywhere. If I had a genie, I would wish that smithpeter's poetry was famous.

aha ... way cool!

and then maybe anna wasn't so far off with her suspicions. 2 rejected ? maybe ... meh, it's not worth the fretting over.

he sounds an admirable talent.

 

[Tzara]

So.....

I just found out that the Festival Organizer had poetry that did not get accepted into Mannequin Envy, same with an anthology committee member. Not saying that this means I did not get in because of that, BUT it makes me feel better Only so many seats, y'know?

I would perhaps interpret this as meaning your taste in poetry (and Master P's, as yer poetry editor) is somewhat different than that of your organizer and committee member. So, no fault no foul, with you not being accepted for the thingie. It's probably just an impedance mismatch as to what qualifies as good poetry.

 

[annaswirls]

I would perhaps interpret this as meaning your taste in poetry (and Master P's, as yer poetry editor) is somewhat different than that of your organizer and committee member. So, no fault no foul, with you not being accepted for the thingie. It's probably just an impedance mismatch as to what qualifies as good poetry.

oh you get me all a-buzz when you talk circuitry

 

[annaswirls]

Sweet introduction, Ange! I am not sure what I am doing with the site. Currently trying to pull together a print anthology and it is friggin HUGE!!!!

I do miss the contact with new poets, a certain zing and zip missing from my march.

Hubby promises to help me set it up for online submissions, to automate things a bit... not the actual reading, etc, but the emails, filling in the blanks, etc. It is too much to do it all by hand anymore.


I miss Doug. You know, it still makes me angry that we didn't get to spend more time with him! I thought anger was one of the first steps of grief to go. It is funny because every time I come back to it after a while, the steps flutter through more and more quickly.

I still have fantasies of his poetry being famous. I know my little site wouldn't do it, but it was what I could do. Who knows, maybe we can pull together an anthology of sorts at some point.

Ah the ambition!

Mannequin Envy is a poetry and art zine conceived of by the lovely Ms Swirls and edited by her and the poet known here as the RainMan. Other wonderful poets, including some litsters have been published there. I believe Anna is taking a break from it for now, but I bet it'll be back. It's well worth spending some time reading there. It's a good place for poetry.

And the site is dedicated to the late Doug Gamrath, known here at Lit as smithpeter. Anna has posted a lot of his poetry there. If you haven't read him, well he is unique. He has been gone since 2004 but he is one of the most unique poets I've ever read, anywhere. If I had a genie, I would wish that smithpeter's poetry was famous.

 

[annaswirls]

aha ... way cool!

and then maybe anna wasn't so far off with her suspicions. 2 rejected ? maybe ... meh, it's not worth the fretting over.

he sounds an admirable talent.

Hope you can check it out! Maybe submit something when it gets chugging again, probably not until the fall at the VERY EARLIEST.

 

[butters]

Hope you can check it out! Maybe submit something when it gets chugging again, probably not until the fall at the VERY EARLIEST.

i've bookmarked it not having time right at the moment to read and digest, but what i've read there stirs my mind. which is what i love about poetry!

and if you do get chugging again, i most definitely will submit.

 

[EroticOrogeny]

oh you get me all a-buzz when you talk circuitry

The impulse response can be even more exciting!

 

[EroticOrogeny]

Yes - I'm not academic now, but still looked at by various bosses.

Good news on the latest paper.
We need to make some revisions, but basically they like it.

 

[Epmd607]

Smithpeter is a little famous around here. Everyone who sticks around for a little while hears people mention him and goes and reads his poems. I don't know how much more famous you can get in poetry world. I can ramble off a group of names I think should be famous and probably no one here would have heard of them and everyone can mention their current favorite writers and it'll just be blank stares all around. When you mention Billy Collins to a group of poets it's usually "Yeah, okay, but these poets should be more famous than him because they're so much better..." So AnnaSwirls is a little famous and SmithPeter is a little famous in my poetry universe, my wife's the most famous poet in my universe. My poetry universe is pretty fucking strange, there's a lot of dirty, nasty eroticism face to face with sweet cloying love.

When I first started posting poems here I'm like, "Wow, some of these people are serious about this." Then I stopped posting when I read this poem: http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=320794

After that I'm like, "If I'm being outclassed by poems on a porn site I need some serious training." That was a sulk moment. I still haven't really put my nose to the grindstone like I was before that moment a couple years back.

 

[annaswirls]

Congrats!

Good news on the latest paper.
We need to make some revisions, but basically they like it.

 

[annaswirls]

Damn that is a fabulous poem. I miss ol' 1201.


" My poetry universe is pretty fucking strange, there's a lot of dirty, nasty eroticism face to face with sweet cloying love."


AMEN! Glad to be in the same universe, passing through one side to the other, breeze shaped like you

Smithpeter is a little famous around here. Everyone who sticks around for a little while hears people mention him and goes and reads his poems. I don't know how much more famous you can get in poetry world. I can ramble off a group of names I think should be famous and probably no one here would have heard of them and everyone can mention their current favorite writers and it'll just be blank stares all around. When you mention Billy Collins to a group of poets it's usually "Yeah, okay, but these poets should be more famous than him because they're so much better..." So AnnaSwirls is a little famous and SmithPeter is a little famous in my poetry universe, my wife's the most famous poet in my universe. My poetry universe is pretty fucking strange, there's a lot of dirty, nasty eroticism face to face with sweet cloying love.

When I first started posting poems here I'm like, "Wow, some of these people are serious about this." Then I stopped posting when I read this poem: http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=320794

After that I'm like, "If I'm being outclassed by poems on a porn site I need some serious training." That was a sulk moment. I still haven't really put my nose to the grindstone like I was before that moment a couple years back.

 

[butters]

Good news on the latest paper.
We need to make some revisions, but basically they like it.

bet that put a smile on your face - nice one

 

[EroticOrogeny]

bet that put a smile on your face - nice one

Yes - and this one is easier since I'm the lead, but not corresponding author!

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Seeing a friend in May who has had a children's book published and I might pick her brains about how she found her publisher and if they might be interested in poetry for children

 

[butters]

Seeing a friend in May who has had a children's book published and I might pick her brains about how she found her publisher and if they might be interested in poetry for children

cool - pursue all avenues that present themselves

 

[bflagsst]

Seeing a friend in May who has had a children's book published and I might pick her brains about how she found her publisher and if they might be interested in poetry for children

That's a good idea, I'd guess that it's best if you find an illustrator before you present to a publisher. The illustrators run the world of children's books.

 

[Angeline]

Seeing a friend in May who has had a children's book published and I might pick her brains about how she found her publisher and if they might be interested in poetry for children

That is so cool Annie. I'd love to write poems for children myself. Do you draw? Do you know anyone who you could work with on illustrations? It sounds like a lot of work, but a lot of fun.