The new UK law on viewing BDSM and bondage...

Ctoago said:
(The fact that his appeal on legal/technical grounds has now been upheld, and his conviction may be quashed - that's disgusting.)

If there's been mistakes made in his trial, it's disgusting that these mistakes have been made. But it's right that noone can be convicted in a faulty trial.
 
davro said:
To those of you who see the lady`s campaign as a waste of time,she`s lost her daughter for fuck`s sake,she wants reasons,she probably got her reasons from the animal that killed her girl`s defence team and she`s done something about it.

I have commented on this womans campaign.
I see it very clearly in terms of her trying to come to terms with her daughters death.

What I don't see is how it will help her in the longer term.
She is not campaigning against him but against something that will be very hard to pin down through legislation without loop holes.

As someone who had to make simliar choices I have empathy for what this woman is going through.
Campaigning takes effort and takes your mind away from dealing with difficult thoughts and memories.
As I stated before, in slightly different words, it is my firm belief that the final legislation will have grey areas and loopholes. When it is in place and someone else dies despite the legislation how will this woman feel then?
Dealing with loss of a child does not seem to vanish, some things make it harder. Knowing a campaigned failed due to the way the law works cannot be a postive thing for this woman in the future.
No-one can second guess what will happen and no amount of campaigning will bring her daughter back.
 
davro said:
I`d suggest some people here look at what they`re really trying to stamp out rather than over-reacting and talking shit,no-one`s mentioned BDSM sites,they`re targetting snuff,rape,torture and self-declared non-consensual sites,nothing a simple disclaimer and co-operation with anyone asking couldn`t sort out.

Snuff (i.e. murder) is illegal. Rape is illegal. Torture is illegal. Non-consensual stuff (i.e. assault, battery, etc) is illegal. So who gives a damn whether displaying it is illegal?

And given that the authorities rarely care whether an image showing "obscenity" is featuring consenting or non-consenting adults, it does affect everyone on this site, including you.
 
it's too bad all posters here agree with each other--"preaching to the choir." no one makes the case for legislation that possibly a majority of people in Britain or the US believe should be in place. so none of us is challenged to speak and persuade someone not already converted, someone with whom we disagree.
 
Marquis said:
I'm curious about the circumstances surrounding this girl's death, I get the feeling it was an accident.

Oh yeah, and I love Max Hardcore and I think he's an American hero. He strikes me as an extremely intelligent guy who is totally shameless about his perversions, someone I can really respect. He also has started including interviews at the end of his videos where the actresses talk about what a great time they had during the shoot.
I remember when whippedass.com and their other websites started including pictures of the girls smiling after their session. I was upset at first because it ruined the mood, but I came to realize that they were protecting themselves.

Max Hardcore actually needs those interviews because those girls often look like they're having a terrible time.

Pure said:
it's too bad all posters here agree with each other--"preaching to the choir." no one makes the case for legislation that possibly a majority of people in Britain or the US believe should be in place. so none of us is challenged to speak and persuade someone not already converted, someone with whom we disagree.
In the US we haven't had too many cases like this, and when we do, perverts like us are too few and maybe too ashamed to stand up for the right to view what we want in the privacy of our own home.
 
I would expect nothing less from the nation that brings us this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm :rolleyes:


I think the UK is beautiful and I'd even considered moving there for a while, but they do not seem to place much value in personal rights at the moment. So don't take it personally if you're in the UK. :D
 
chris5vx said:
I would expect nothing less from the nation that brings us this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm :rolleyes:


I think the UK is beautiful and I'd even considered moving there for a while, but they do not seem to place much value in personal rights at the moment. So don't take it personally if you're in the UK. :D

You think its a personal right to have a weapon in your home that could lead to your own demise?

I am guessing you are from the US and have a gun in every room.

I want to leave the UK, and I am aware of the label Nanny State, but I would rather live in the UK with rising violence than live in a place where violence is seen as the norm.

You picked an odd news story to illustrate your point though
 
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