The popular vote.

[PaxNurgle]

Whatever you say, HumpCanhelpDay

 

[YDB95]

This needs to be saved for posterity.

Fine by me. Of course, if you ever bring it up again, I fully expect it to be in response to something else I said that was completely different.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

That's because right-wing pollsters have been flooding the averages, precisely for the purpose of fooling people like you.

Which of these pollsters do you consider right wing? Rassmussen perhaps, but they have Harris with a slight lead.

 

[Politruk]

Nobody's gonna buy that! Ronald has RED hair!

 

[Philthy_Phil]

This needs to be saved for posterity.

It's not going anywhere unless bigfitsbutch gets lit shut down.

 

[YDB95]

Which of these pollsters do you consider right wing? Rassmussen perhaps, but they have Harris with a slight lead.

Wall Street Journal is an obvious one. Some of the others I'm not familiar with.
I will say Fox News, despite their odious parentage, are usually pretty accurate.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Wall Street Journal is an obvious one. Some of the others I'm not familiar with.
I will say Fox News, despite their odious parentage, are usually pretty accurate.

Was WSJ putting its thumb on the scale in August when their poll had Harris leading?

 

[jomar]

As long as Harris wins the electoral I’m good.

 

[YDB95]

Was WSJ putting its thumb on the scale in August when their poll had Harris leading?

I have no idea, and neither do you. Could just be that the post-convention bounce was too big for even a right-wing source to deny.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I have no idea, and neither do you. Could just be that the post-convention bounce was too big for even a right-wing source to deny.

Or it could be that polling firms that media outlets hire to run polls put their reputation and brand first. It would be pretty stupid for a polling firm to tarnish their brand on purpose.

 

[YDB95]

Or it could be that polling firms that media outlets hire to run polls put their reputation and brand first. It would be pretty stupid for a polling firm to tarnish their brand on purpose.

Yes, but the WSJ's "brand" is essentially telling Repubicans what they want to hear.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Yes, but the WSJ's "brand" is essentially telling Repubicans what they want to hear.

WSJ, like other media outlets such as CNN, Fox News, AP, NYT, WaPo, CBS News, ABC News, NPR etc. outsource their polls to professional polling organizations. Those organizations rely on their performance and reputation to stay in business. If a polling firm demonstrates is consistently off the mark outside of the margin of error, they lose those marquee clients.

WSJ uses NORC at the University of Chicago for its polls. Associated press uses them as well. Third party analytics and modeling organizations such as FiveThirtyEight consider NORC to be reputable.

NORC is not in the business of manufacturing polling results to meet their clients wishes.

It’s also worth noting that WSJ polls are handled by the news division, not the editorial board. I’ve been a WSJ reader since 1978. The editorial philosophy hasn’t changed a bit. Consistent in its capitalistic, free market, free trade, pro-immigration, small government perspectives. The news section is separate. One would be hard pressed to make a case that its news coverage has a right leaning bias.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Polls show the popular vote is a toss-up.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

There are indications that Trump might actually win the popular vote. If true on Wednesday morning democrat lawyers will be trampling each other at the court house doors and it will be hilarious to watch.

Why?

National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

Yep, a bunch of democrat shit for brains lawyers thought they'd figured out a way to circumvent the Constitution re. the electoral votes. And should Trump actually win the popular vote those very same shit for brains lawyers are going to be tripping all over themselves trying to invalidate the very law they cooked up. Then we'll see what they think about democracy.

I said this already and took a lot of grief over it.

I do not care what "they" say.

I do not think the election will be close.
I think that both parties want us to believe that it will be close.
That has everything to do with the Benjamins and little to with reality; it's manipulated.

Like a magician, we are told, "these n+1 places will decide the election, focus on them" then the hand moves...

WOW! Didn't see that one coming.

Landslide? Who knew?

*chuckle*

 

[Rebel5soul]

Trump is hitting some states that the democrats believed were an absolute lock in the final stretch. I have no idea what the polls look like in those states but they must be close and if nothing else Trump is going to force the dems to spend money protecting what they thought they could ignore.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Down-river Trout...


(That talking Trump Trout is hilarious.)

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Kilgore was here...


Walz will remember that; where he got his first Purple Heart. (The CMoH came a little later.)

 

[Rebel5soul]

A funny thing happened on my way to the war. *chuckle*

 

[JoePepsiCo]

He stopped by Tel Aviv and won it in negotiations...


Tiananmen is in the Middle East right? I'm an expert at Communism! I'm your guy!!!

 

[SevMax2]

There are indications that Trump might actually win the popular vote. If true on Wednesday morning democrat lawyers will be trampling each other at the court house doors and it will be hilarious to watch.

Why?

National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

Yep, a bunch of democrat shit for brains lawyers thought they'd figured out a way to circumvent the Constitution re. the electoral votes. And should Trump actually win the popular vote those very same shit for brains lawyers are going to be tripping all over themselves trying to invalidate the very law they cooked up. Then we'll see what they think about democracy.

The last Republican to win the popular vote was George W. Bush in 2004 and the last one before him was his own father, George H.W. Bush, in 1988. Let that sink in. The Democrats have won for the past two decades when it comes to the popular vote, yet in 2016, they still didn't keep the White House.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

The power of the popular vote and the tyranny of the big was visited by the Founders and addressed.

Socialists hate their solution: The Electoral Collage; they need emotional mass movements and true believers to triumph over the people who just want to be left alone.

REMEMBER the PEANVT!!!​

 

[YDB95]

The power of the popular vote and the tyranny of the big was visited by the Founders and addressed.

Socialists hate their solution: The Electoral Collage; they need emotional mass movements and true believers to triumph over the people who just want to be left alone.

REMEMBER the PEANVT!!!​

That's a lot of words for "I don't think the choice of the people should be the winner". But you do you.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

That is correct.

For a National Election, one that represents everyone, the huge states should not swamp the citizens of the small states so our elections have checks to protect the little guy and it pisses the Socialists off that our Constitution is "a charter of negative liberties."

(President Barack Obama)


That position embarrasses me not one whit, for it protects Libertarians too...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Popular Vote: the recipe for a dozen cities to control a country they know nothing about.


Tyranny of the "majority."


Now do all those presidents who "won" the popular vote by plurality yet still got in.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Don't pay dem much mind
when they win they'll
fight each other
death wish

spiral