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Absolutely incredible. I look forward to many more sizzling photos. Thanks.
 
LincolnDuncan said:
Sally, I read an article about Betty Page. I don't recall if it alleged that she was either bi or lesbian but it did say that she was hired for an afternoon of passion with who I believe was either Katherine Hepburn or Lauren Bacall. Have you read of any rumors about Betty and Hollywood's leading female celebrities?
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I looked for quite some time and couldn't find anything connecting Betty Page to Katherine nor Lauren. If I had to guess, it would have most likely been Katherine Hepburn, who was not shy in her affairs with women over the years. I haven't found anything about Lauren Bacall that suggests she ever had an affair with a woman. I feel like I need to dig deeper now to find out! This afternoon of passion sounds very exciting :D

Jaime1493 said:
Absolutely incredible. I look forward to many more sizzling photos. Thanks.
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Thanks for stopping in! I am glad you are enjoying it!
 
sally_sparrow said:
I looked for quite some time and couldn't find anything connecting Betty Page to Katherine nor Lauren. If I had to guess, it would have most likely been Katherine Hepburn, who was not shy in her affairs with women over the years. I haven't found anything about Lauren Bacall that suggests she ever had an affair with a woman. I feel like I need to dig deeper now to find out! This afternoon of passion sounds very exciting :D



Thanks for stopping in! I am glad you are enjoying it!
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Thank you. I read the article online years ago and it may have been a total fantasy. Considering Betty's career I would not be surprised if she had been approached by other female celebrities.

Sally, I love your thread. Unlike other lesbian related threads, you might be fortunate to avoid trolls.
 
LincolnDuncan said:
Thank you. I read the article online years ago and it may have been a total fantasy. Considering Betty's career I would not be surprised if she had been approached by other female celebrities.

Sally, I love your thread. Unlike other lesbian related threads, you might be fortunate to avoid trolls.
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Thank you. I'm happy you like it! It's been fun collecting the info and sharing it.
 
Not Hollywood, but still fabulous.

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Frida Kahlo.

The other woman in this photo is Chavela Vargas, an influential ranchera singer-songwriter. Though she didn’t*“officially” come out as a lesbian until late in life, she was well-known for dressing in men’s clothing and not changing lyrics/pronouns when performing songs traditionally sung by men. She and Frida had a romantic relationship which they spoke openly about.

An excerpt from artlgbt :

chavela: “frida loved me. it’s a shame I burned a letter she wrote where she said,*‘I live for you and diego only.’ it was a beautiful love. she used to say, ‘I birthed you. I had you.’ and I told her,*‘yes, I feel your blood in mine.’ she gave birth to me. I admired her deeply, but I loved her more than I admired her paintings. she had her black mustache. it was thick, thick black hair. I loved seeing her eyebrows and her mustache. and she loved her mustache.”

frida: “carlos [pellicer], I met chavela vargas today. an extraordinary, lesbian woman. in fact, I took a liking to her erotically. I don’t know if she felt what I did, but I think she is a very liberal woman, and if she asked, I would not hesitate a second before undressing in front of her. how often do we not just want a good lay? she is, I repeat, erotic. is she perhaps a gift sent to me from heaven?”
 
A contribution...a story that includes future famous Hollywood stars

The most scandalous play of 1927 other than SEX by Mae West was The Captive, starring the beautiful Helen Menken and Basil Rathbone, and the fate of the two plays was intertwined.
The play by Edouard Bouridel, is the story of Irene, a woman secretly in love with another woman, who tries to leave her husband (played by Rathbone), but she returns to the relationship, saying that it is "a prison to which I must return captive, despite myself."
The audience for the play was said to be predominantly female, with one account placing the figure at almost 80 percent.
The play ran for 160 performances before pressure from William Randolph Hearst (whose mistress, Marion Davies, ironically had a lesbian niece) brought official scrutiny.
The Captive was put on trial for indecency by the Citizens' Play Jury and was cleared of charges. Led by John S. Sumner, the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice campaigned alongside the Catholic Church and other religious organizations to close The Captive and other plays on obscenity charges. Religious groups and women's clubs also expressed disapproval of the play.
On 9 February, while Rathbone and Menken were in middle of the second act of The Captive, police marched onto the stage and arrested the pair. With the rest of the cast, they were thrown in the back of a police van with the cast of SEX, who had also been arrested and taken to jail. West and Menken fought with each other, with West accusing Menken of being a lesbian in a lavender marriage and Menken suggesting that West was a drag queen.
Rathbone described the events on the night of the raid in his autobiography: "As we walked out onto the stage to await our first entrances we were stopped by a plainclothes policeman who showed his badge and said, 'Please don't let it disturb your performance tonight but consider yourself under arrest!' ... At the close of the play the cast were all ordered to dress and stand by to be escorted in police cars to a night court."
Eventually, in New York, a censorship campaign against the plays The Captive, The Virgin Man, The Drag (another Mae West production marketed as "A Male Captive, and SEX prompted the Wales Padlock Act, a state law that had the effect of banning depictions of homosexuality in theaters.Sponsored by New York State Senator B. Roger Wales, the bill allowed for the arrest and prosecution of any actors or producers involved in an "immoral drama." If the producers of a play were convicted, the theater could be padlocked for a year. The legislature amended the public obscenity code to ban plays "depicting or dealing with the subject of sex degeneracy, or sex perversion."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Captive_(play)
 
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Jerseyshore said:
A contribution...a story that includes future famous Hollywood stars

The most scandalous play of 1927 other than SEX by Mae West was The Captive, starring the beautiful Helen Menken and Basil Rathbone, and the fate of the two plays was intertwined.
The play by Edouard Bouridel, is the story of Irene, a woman secretly in love with another woman, who tries to leave her husband (played by Rathbone), but she returns to the relationship, saying that it is "a prison to which I must return captive, despite myself."
The audience for the play was said to be predominantly female, with one account placing the figure at almost 80 percent.
The play ran for 160 performances before pressure from William Randolph Hearst (whose mistress, Marion Davies, ironically had a lesbian niece) brought official scrutiny.
The Captive was put on trial for indecency by the Citizens' Play Jury and was cleared of charges. Led by John S. Sumner, the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice campaigned alongside the Catholic Church and other religious organizations to close The Captive and other plays on obscenity charges. Religious groups and women's clubs also expressed disapproval of the play.
On 9 February, while Rathbone and Menken were in middle of the second act of The Captive, police marched onto the stage and arrested the pair. With the rest of the cast, they were thrown in the back of a police van with the cast of SEX, who had also been arrested and taken to jail. West and Menken fought with each other, with West accusing Menken of being a lesbian in a lavender marriage and Menken suggesting that West was a drag queen.
Rathbone described the events on the night of the raid in his autobiography: "As we walked out onto the stage to await our first entrances we were stopped by a plainclothes policeman who showed his badge and said, 'Please don't let it disturb your performance tonight but consider yourself under arrest!' ... At the close of the play the cast were all ordered to dress and stand by to be escorted in police cars to a night court."
Eventually, in New York, a censorship campaign against the plays The Captive, The Virgin Man, The Drag (another Mae West production marketed as "A Male Captive, and SEX prompted the Wales Padlock Act, a state law that had the effect of banning depictions of homosexuality in theaters.Sponsored by New York State Senator B. Roger Wales, the bill allowed for the arrest and prosecution of any actors or producers involved in an "immoral drama." If the producers of a play were convicted, the theater could be padlocked for a year. The legislature amended the public obscenity code to ban plays "depicting or dealing with the subject of sex degeneracy, or sex perversion."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Captive_(play)
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What a fascinating account in history!Thanks so much for sharing it here.
 
My pleasure SS *s*.
Basil Rathbone was actually quite pissed about what happened...
"Rathbone was once arrested in 1926 along with every other member of the cast of The Captive, a play in which his character's wife left him for another woman. Though the charges were eventually dropped, Rathbone was very angry about the censorship because he believed that homosexuality needed to be brought into the open."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Rathbone#Personal_life
 
Jerseyshore said:
My pleasure SS *s*.
Basil Rathbone was actually quite pissed about what happened...
"Rathbone was once arrested in 1926 along with every other member of the cast of The Captive, a play in which his character's wife left him for another woman. Though the charges were eventually dropped, Rathbone was very angry about the censorship because he believed that homosexuality needed to be brought into the open."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Rathbone#Personal_life
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And he had every right to be angry about it. I think it's funny that for years and years men could play every part in a play, but once homosexuality took on a theme of its own, there was outrage. Talk about double standards.
 
I'm not sure if the all-female casts, especially for Shakespeare, can work, but then I'm speaking as one who hasn't yet seen a production. They do come up though, in London of course :rolleyes:but apparently there is "The Donmar Warehouse’s all-female Shakespeare Trilogy has been added to the National Theatre’s On Demand In Schools service." I wonder if I can hack into that?! :D

Ooo Sally, new hot AV :rose:
 
stickygirl said:
I'm not sure if the all-female casts, especially for Shakespeare, can work, but then I'm speaking as one who hasn't yet seen a production. They do come up though, in London of course :rolleyes:but apparently there is "The Donmar Warehouse’s all-female Shakespeare Trilogy has been added to the National Theatre’s On Demand In Schools service." I wonder if I can hack into that?! :D

Ooo Sally, new hot AV :rose:
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Thanks stickygirl!

I've never seen an all female cast either!

Off topic - I was browsing through Hulu last night and found Portrait Of A Lady On Fire
 on there. I can't wait to watch it now!
 
sally_sparrow said:
Thanks stickygirl!

I've never seen an all female cast either!

Off topic - I was browsing through Hulu last night and found Portrait Of A Lady On Fire
 on there. I can't wait to watch it now!
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Ooooh yea. I've seen a post about this on Tumblr. Looks like my kind of thing :)

I've just taken delivery of a second hand book - the biography of Lee Miller book, by Carolyn Burke. I ought to be excited but a dip into the first chapter reads kinda bookish... we'll see!
 
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"Margaret Lindsay, who traveled around the country with lover Janet Gaynor and had comedienne Mary McCarty as a long-time lover, could not get parts in big-time movies despite her exceptional beauty because she refused "to play the game," though she was romantically linked [by studio publicity department] to Dick Powell [stricly heterosexual] and dated [strictly homosexuals] Liberace and Cesar Romero with every assurance that they would not even ask for a goodnight kiss."

-From Broken Face In The Mirror: Crooks and Fallen Stars That Look Very Much Like Us by David Hernandez
 
Greta in 'Flesh and the Devil'

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Garbo was an attractive woman who was adored by men and women alike, and she returned their love enthusiastically. Garbo has been romantically and sexually attached to several Hollywood female starlets. Instead of lying to the press, Garbo remained silent about her personal life, which lent an air of mystery to her persona. Perhaps Garbo’s most notorious relationship was with Marlene Dietrich.
 
 
Great thread but I a don’t think lesbians are all exhibitionists
Too bad cuz I would not mind being a voyeur

But... love your work here Sally!!
 
Just4AFriend said:
Great thread but I a don’t think lesbians are all exhibitionists
Too bad cuz I would not mind being a voyeur

But... love your work here Sally!!
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This isn't really about exhibitionism... But thank you :)
 
sally_sparrow said:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/dd46c0c27bb1fd6623a0e885e046b917/tumblr_ptjf3b9dY81wyiqxp_1280.jpg

Carole Lombard c. 1930s
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The glamor of early Hollywood was quite delightful. The arrival of the "Hayes Code" in 1934 m,ade displaying glamour and sexuality more challenging but it could be done.

Before the Code things were different, including LGBQ activity. One example noted here is Sign of the Cross, that featured a lovely young slave (played by Elissa Landi) being seduced by a woman dancer (Joyzelle Joyner). The scene, "Dance of the Naked Moon", was cut post-code. It caused quite a stir when the movie was originally released in 1932.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sign_of_the_Cross_(1932_film)
 
Jerseyshore said:
The glamor of early Hollywood was quite delightful. The arrival of the "Hayes Code" in 1934 m,ade displaying glamour and sexuality more challenging but it could be done.

Before the Code things were different, including LGBQ activity. One example noted here is Sign of the Cross, that featured a lovely young slave (played by Elissa Landi) being seduced by a woman dancer (Joyzelle Joyner). The scene, "Dance of the Naked Moon", was cut post-code. It caused quite a stir when the movie was originally released in 1932.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sign_of_the_Cross_(1932_film)
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Thank you so much for sharing this! I hadn't heard of this film.
 
Just pre-ordered Portait of a Lady on Fire because I'm not on cable and I haven't been out to a bar for months. It's due to arrive on the 8th and I've very excited: bottle of wine and ... pizza or something posh? :):)

Happy dance - it's arrived! 9/6/20 :D

Here's my thoughts on the film
The film’s lovely in every way: the light, the symbolism - like her portrait being nailed into a box, her dress on fire - all visual candies but above all, the focus on their eyes. It was interesting that both the artist and subject can scrutinise each other in that setting and the air was crackling! I guess the take-away from the story is that we all have love stolen from us through circumstance and, like Orpheus, it leaves a hole that’s impossible to fill. How we later reflect on it, like Marianne seeing the book in Heloise’s portrait, or at the theatre, is up to us.

I keep adding to this, so the film has become a brief special interest! I re-watched the film, with commentary by the central actresses and director and that was really interesting - understanding the meaning behind particular scenes, how the actresses had to alter the amount of emotion they showed in successive shots and the light, which is so beautiful throughout. There's one montage that is credited to the work of Francesca Woodman and my Mum has a copy of her book, printed posthumously. The link page is of some of her work, but her life story is extraordinary and troubling.

https://lwlies.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/portrait-of-a-lady-on-fire-adele-haenel-1108x0-c-default.jpg
 
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