EroticOrogeny
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Copyright may have expired, at least in US.
Those letters are quite bawdy and explicit
Copyright may have expired, at least in US.
Those letters are quite bawdy and explicit
EroticOrogeny
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They do grow up fast. My son's now on to graduate school in the fall (we have the 'joy' of helping him move his apartment this weekend).
UnderYourSpell
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So many things to answer where do I begin?
Turning the light on to write down poetry at night isn't an option that Ron would be happy with!
I used to be a perfectionist where writing was concerned if it didn't 'write itself' there and then it got dumped. Now I write bits and bobs all over the place sometimes they get finished sometimes they don't, but one thing I have found I do need peace preferably an empty house to really get into writing it properly. Even if Ron is in the house I am too aware that he could come and interrupt me and he doesn't understand lol takes it personally that I want to finish something rather than be with him right then.
I gave you a yell on Twitter last night Lady but I guess you didn't see it although I was reading all your tweets.
Just made a comment on your poem EO sorry I only just read it I do get behind on new poems sometimes.
Turning the light on to write down poetry at night isn't an option that Ron would be happy with!
I used to be a perfectionist where writing was concerned if it didn't 'write itself' there and then it got dumped. Now I write bits and bobs all over the place sometimes they get finished sometimes they don't, but one thing I have found I do need peace preferably an empty house to really get into writing it properly. Even if Ron is in the house I am too aware that he could come and interrupt me and he doesn't understand lol takes it personally that I want to finish something rather than be with him right then.
I gave you a yell on Twitter last night Lady but I guess you didn't see it although I was reading all your tweets.
Just made a comment on your poem EO sorry I only just read it I do get behind on new poems sometimes.
UnderYourSpell
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What goes around comes around ..... the bastard next door that cut down my tree has obviously had a car smash and his car has just been delivered back home in several pieces. Truck driver walked straight through my Violas as a short cut sheesh what's with these people? My childhood may not have been perfect but at least I was taught manners and respect for other peoples property
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Oh and I learned something yesterday. It's not Lit. It's widespread I think. Like a virus. Someone writes a book to tell us all what is good prose and what is bad prose. Many buy and many read. Few challenge. Most accept and pass along what they read. Not as something to consider but as gospel.
I found one of those books. One of those google free previews. It delivered its message with a voice heavily soaked in authoritative certitude. It also lacked a single grain of imagination, or appreciation for the blending and bending of voices and styles and the delight of rule-free experimentation. I think it was from '68 or thereabouts. It reads like it could've been a textbook. Many teachers may have used it. Probably countless other books like it, prior and subsequent (before and after). So these ideas get ingrained into many. They pass them on: this is good writing, and this is not. Then they always have the comparison examples: this is how someone did it the wrong way... now this one is the better, cleaner, tighter way. That's a problem right away, but it's common: everybody else will prefer this over that, so of course, you should too.
But that's the deal. It's the norm. If you decide to please yourself and it happens to buck that norm, you'll be widely regarded as a bad writer and will be pointed to references that you were already aware of, which was why you were trying to avoid them, or their influences. Except in some idle moments if you're curious about someone else's take... but it ends up being just more of the same: someone else telling all of us how to go about figuring out how we can best get across our ideas. If you buy their views and implement them, you'll probably advance faster and your fellows will award you with praise. If you reject their views or decide to try to figure it out yourself the going will be much slower, and you'll have to get used to awarding yourself with a few laughs, and if you find an outlet like Lit, you'll just have to understand that the majority who are already accomplished will never regard you as anything very complimentary. But it's fine because that's what they were taught, and they're really probably nice people. And in that we are very similar.
I found one of those books. One of those google free previews. It delivered its message with a voice heavily soaked in authoritative certitude. It also lacked a single grain of imagination, or appreciation for the blending and bending of voices and styles and the delight of rule-free experimentation. I think it was from '68 or thereabouts. It reads like it could've been a textbook. Many teachers may have used it. Probably countless other books like it, prior and subsequent (before and after). So these ideas get ingrained into many. They pass them on: this is good writing, and this is not. Then they always have the comparison examples: this is how someone did it the wrong way... now this one is the better, cleaner, tighter way. That's a problem right away, but it's common: everybody else will prefer this over that, so of course, you should too.
But that's the deal. It's the norm. If you decide to please yourself and it happens to buck that norm, you'll be widely regarded as a bad writer and will be pointed to references that you were already aware of, which was why you were trying to avoid them, or their influences. Except in some idle moments if you're curious about someone else's take... but it ends up being just more of the same: someone else telling all of us how to go about figuring out how we can best get across our ideas. If you buy their views and implement them, you'll probably advance faster and your fellows will award you with praise. If you reject their views or decide to try to figure it out yourself the going will be much slower, and you'll have to get used to awarding yourself with a few laughs, and if you find an outlet like Lit, you'll just have to understand that the majority who are already accomplished will never regard you as anything very complimentary. But it's fine because that's what they were taught, and they're really probably nice people. And in that we are very similar.
UnderYourSpell
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Did you see Dead Poets Society? The Robin Williams character tells them to rip all those sort of pages out
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Yes! Been a while, don't remember much, but that part... the old memory cells actually flickered with that scene.
And really, in almost each example that compared the 'preferred' with the bad version, I preferred the so-called bad one. You know, stuff like, 'if it's such and such type of writing, use this and such sort of language' and not the other. Like, make characters speak in ways the reader would expect them to speak. And, don't use common language in formal writing and don't use formal language in a work geared for the commoner. Everything and all people and styles divided into neat little columns and ye dareth not bring their loins together to mix their fluids and so perhaps make pretty little monstrosities... no playing in the underground lab. All that ever was or is or will be exists in their proper places and in order and in those cleanly definitive orders We will keep them.
Well, it makes me just want to jump up and go grab life by the balls and laugh all the way down a pearly avenue.
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Okay, I am very excited about this and I just have to talk about it. For those who know me and my situation, you probably already know that I have PTSD (posttraumatic stress disorder). Some of you know that I got PTSD from sexual assaults.. and it's been hell.
I've been doing a bit better and recently took a part-time job freelance writing. My goal is to get completely off of disability some time next year. But, with the freelance job, it suits me well for now because I have a lot of difficulty being in public. (There's absolutely no way I could work in public right now without pretty much crying and being on edge the whole time.)
But, I am getting better. I haven't had a flashback or nightmare in several months. My road to recovery has been pretty bumpy.. I went from depression and being angry at myself and justifying the actions of those who hurt me to having a more realistic view of what happened to me. Now, through some work I did in therapy, I am working towards accepting what I lost (my career, my car, my sense of safety) and actually allowing myself to get angry at those who attacked me.
In my freelance work, I am stuck writing countless articles on topics that don't matter to me. Then I thought that maybe, just maybe, if I could start a website on PTSD and anxiety disorders it may help me feel like I am turning my experience into a positive of some sort. Even if people only ever get some information or a better understanding of PTSD and anxiety disorders from reading my website, that's a big positive to me. One of my passions has always been trying to get people to really understand what mental illness is like. If I can contribute to that in any way, I would feel that I am doing something positive.
So, here it is: PTSD Central www.ptsdcentral.com
I didn't do the background art for the website. I found it on Wordpress and fell in love with it.
So, let me know what you think-- about any of this post, not just the website. Oh, and if you read an article and it has an awkward phrase in it, keep in mind that I am working from a list of keywords that my freelance client helped me put together about topics I wanted to include on the website. So, to include a keyword phrase, sometimes you have to fudge the structure of the sentence a little bit.
UnderYourSpell
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In the different poems I see submitted the only thing that really makes me cringe is something I think it was Angeline termed as yoda talk, forcing words in to make a rhyme. If people don't talk like that don't use it pleeeeeeeeeease ........ it sets my teeth on edge. I pointed it out to one of the writers and got a rude email back saying she did talk like that. Oh yeah? right! Why kid yourself doesn't seem much point to me. When I am doing the forms and they need to rhyme I'd rather scrap that bit altogether rather shove something stupid in for a rhyme
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That is why I really enjoyed Zen in the Art of Writing by Ray Bradbury. It's pretty much the opposite of what you described about those heavy-handed writing manuals. It delivers more of a message of-- this is why I love to write.
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That's a very interesting site you've started one niggle before I say more, I find white on a black background very hard to read and concentrate on but maybe that's just me.
Now I don't get flashbacks in fact I have huge blockages but about ordinary things, my sister has said about things that I didn't remember until she told me then of course I remembered many more details. I even forgot my father had a brother! So if I have blockages about ordinary things I wonder what or if I am blocking bad things too or do I remember them all? I don't think I do remember them all because I can't remember the start or the finish or really how old I was only guessing from the child I can 'see' in my minds eye. It's a bit like having amnesia where keywords can trigger bits of information. I wonder do I want to know or is the reason my mind is blocking so much a good thing a protection in a way but there again don't we all want to know where we came from what shaped us? I don't suppose I will ever know because those responsible are dead and gone now.
Anyway I am so glad you have found a way to recover, mine is buried deep within me a part of me and I don't think at this late stage there is any real recovery for me. Sure it doesn't stop me carrying on a 'normal' life but the child in me still cries.
Now I don't get flashbacks in fact I have huge blockages but about ordinary things, my sister has said about things that I didn't remember until she told me then of course I remembered many more details. I even forgot my father had a brother! So if I have blockages about ordinary things I wonder what or if I am blocking bad things too or do I remember them all? I don't think I do remember them all because I can't remember the start or the finish or really how old I was only guessing from the child I can 'see' in my minds eye. It's a bit like having amnesia where keywords can trigger bits of information. I wonder do I want to know or is the reason my mind is blocking so much a good thing a protection in a way but there again don't we all want to know where we came from what shaped us? I don't suppose I will ever know because those responsible are dead and gone now.
Anyway I am so glad you have found a way to recover, mine is buried deep within me a part of me and I don't think at this late stage there is any real recovery for me. Sure it doesn't stop me carrying on a 'normal' life but the child in me still cries.
EroticOrogeny
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Okay, I am very excited about this and I just have to talk about it. For those who know me and my situation, you probably already know that I have PTSD (posttraumatic stress disorder). Some of you know that I got PTSD from sexual assaults.. and it's been hell.
I've been doing a bit better and recently took a part-time job freelance writing. My goal is to get completely off of disability some time next year. But, with the freelance job, it suits me well for now because I have a lot of difficulty being in public. (There's absolutely no way I could work in public right now without pretty much crying and being on edge the whole time.)
But, I am getting better. I haven't had a flashback or nightmare in several months. My road to recovery has been pretty bumpy.. I went from depression and being angry at myself and justifying the actions of those who hurt me to having a more realistic view of what happened to me. Now, through some work I did in therapy, I am working towards accepting what I lost (my career, my car, my sense of safety) and actually allowing myself to get angry at those who attacked me.
In my freelance work, I am stuck writing countless articles on topics that don't matter to me. Then I thought that maybe, just maybe, if I could start a website on PTSD and anxiety disorders it may help me feel like I am turning my experience into a positive of some sort. Even if people only ever get some information or a better understanding of PTSD and anxiety disorders from reading my website, that's a big positive to me. One of my passions has always been trying to get people to really understand what mental illness is like. If I can contribute to that in any way, I would feel that I am doing something positive.
So, here it is: PTSD Central www.ptsdcentral.com
I didn't do the background art for the website. I found it on Wordpress and fell in love with it.
So, let me know what you think-- about any of this post, not just the website. Oh, and if you read an article and it has an awkward phrase in it, keep in mind that I am working from a list of keywords that my freelance client helped me put together about topics I wanted to include on the website. So, to include a keyword phrase, sometimes you have to fudge the structure of the sentence a little bit.
I'm glad to hear you're on the recovery path. Some of my poems help me deal with my own personal sorrows from the past. I'm not sure if we're ever 'cured', but if we are funtional human beings, at least most of the time, the process is working. I haven't had any flashbacks (including those which could be related to past hallucingenic drug use), but there are aprts of my past that often return and remind me of what wasn't. For me, a lot more past tense than towards the present.
I agree with UnderYourSpell about the white on black. Looks like something could be done with the fonts - I've got another page up which is also white and black (programmers muse) but it is much more readable. Minor point - should it really be .org, rather than .com ?
There are areas in my life where fear plays too much a role - I work on them, but its a day to day affair. Hope you keep on gworing and blossoming. I've enjoyed your poetry and posts.
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I agree: great thing you're doing LS, and it's very well done (just a little font tweak is all). Good job. I bet you'll help somebody. Nothing better than that. Definitely punctures the overblown importance that prose or poetry attempt to attach to themselves.
You're sweet dope.
You're sweet dope.
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PTSD is a summovabitch, but I am doing better than what my prognosis was even though I still can't go out in public alone. The blockages.. yeah, Annie, part of my one attack is totally blank. They say that's very common with PTSD. Yet, another part of the attack, I have relived in nightmares and flashbacks. Memory in relation to trauma is weird. Why would your mind want to keep replaying a horrific memory of a trauma while blocking out other parts? I don't understand that at all. It's fascinating from an objective standpoint, but from the parts I remember, I think there's a reason I don't remember the parts that are blocked out.
The white on black concerned me too.. you know what.. I think I can change the font on WordPress. I'm going to go try that. I use Wordpress all the time for my clients, but this is the first time I ever used it for myself.
The white on black concerned me too.. you know what.. I think I can change the font on WordPress. I'm going to go try that. I use Wordpress all the time for my clients, but this is the first time I ever used it for myself.
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Ok, I enlarged the font and made it bold. I think it is much better now.
http://ptsdcentral.com
Does this fix it you think?
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Uh... could be me, these settings... but, it starts off fine, but gets really really big and jumbled. If a second opinion has no problems...?
UnderYourSpell
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It is a lot better but I think because it is white on black it looks like the letters get furry round the edges and leak the more I read (there is probably a very technical term for this but it's the best I can put it!)
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Ok.. on mine it showed a uniform size, but I changed some tags and now, hopefully, it should be the same for everyone. I wish I was more skilled at web mechanics.
ETA:
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know what all that Make Money with Google spamming is all about.. not here, I mean just in general. Are people charging other people how to earn money with Google AdSense or something? I hope not. I hate when people take something good and twist it into some kind of scam.
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Perfect.
EroticOrogeny
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Looks good to me now - didn't have to upsize font or anything.
Not sure about how the ads work, but I guess they pay form some of the costs, much like with TV.
Often I'm on .org, .edu, .gov, rather than .com, so the models may be somewhat different.
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Well, I know how the ads work. I make money with Google AdSense. (Not a whole lot yet. I made $.67 so far this morning and have gotten a couple $100 checks from them.) What concerns me is all this Spam I see about Google AdSense. I would hate for it to cause problems for us that use AdSense legitimately.
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Hey that wordpress... looks like something the ambitious sort could have a lot of fun with. You could post sketches and all kind of stuff. Didn't see anything about music files...
that 007 thing is a chin rubber too. Dip in in autumn... september or so. Really need to focus and get serious, on something, just about anything. Don't have to be written. Just something. By September. Later September. Early October. Soon.
that 007 thing is a chin rubber too. Dip in in autumn... september or so. Really need to focus and get serious, on something, just about anything. Don't have to be written. Just something. By September. Later September. Early October. Soon.
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EroticOrogeny
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How is WordPress to use and make pages with ? I use Adobe's Dreamweaver (I got a good price on the their design premium when I was a student)
