US healthcare ranks last

[AceDesSpades]

I can’t speak to that, but your system does attract the best doctors, even your upper middle GP clinics have MRI machines and you have all the best Researchers.

Now, if they would just work on the accent...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Eh?

 

[AceDesSpades]

It is a very polite accent.

More cultured than mine.

 

[UltraChad]

Lol...you're really selling your case


Youre totally running away from the word, myopic....keep at it.

You're running away from reality ....keep at it.

Yah, fucking people who need insurance.....fucking die already. I've got home theater systems to buy

They need healthcare.....not an "insurance"+ government extortion scam.

But keep being myopic. MAGA is counting on it!!

 

[AceDesSpades]

 

[icanhelp1]

So you admit that you can’t find a study that says US healthcare is effective and cost efficient. Thanks for proving me right.

There are none, there are major breakdowns in our healthcare system. One aspect is the cost of medical school. If Biden want's to eliminate college tuition debt for students it probably starts there. Incentivize people to take up healthcare as a career path.

 

[ll74]

You're running away from reality ....keep at it.

Reality is that people that you don't like need healthcare.

The person running away from that isn't me.

They need healthcare.....not an "insurance"+ government extortion scam.

Yes, you should tell them what healthcare you think they need. Good call.

Before the ACA, insurance companies had the ability to sell insurance policies that literally did nothing but add money to their bottom line. That was fun.

But keep being myopic. MAGA is counting on it!!

Yes, MAGA is fairly myopic. I'm sure this will lead to great success for everyone

 

[MajorRewrite]

There are none, there are major breakdowns in our healthcare system. One aspect is the cost of medical school. If Biden want's to eliminate college tuition debt for students it probably starts there. Incentivize people to take up healthcare as a career path.

Good idea.

Unfortunately, even doctors complain about our healthcare system. They really don’t like the minimal amount of time they are scheduled with each patient, and the paperwork is overwhelming.

 

[Bray123]

Didn't even look.

This subject has been hashed out thousands of times and it always comes down to The True Believer.

What you mean is, you've looked before as have many others but you can't find anything. Therefore you just announce that yours is the best system, everyone can suck it.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Go reread my post you quoted, it's written right in there.

You made a few claims that you did not substantiate. What matters is that Canada spends $5,115.98 yearly per capita. The United States spends $10,658.40 yearly per capita.

In Canada the average life expectancy at birth is 82.02 years. In the United States the average life expectancy at birth is 78.74 years.

https://healthsystemsfacts.org/?gad...MI0srZltzmiQMVkV5HAR2QWTi0EAAYASAAEgLfP_D_BwE

"The Canadian rate [is] of 9.7 deaths per 100 000 children aged 1 to 14...The report covers 26 of the world's richest nations and ranks Canada 10th, with an “average record of child deaths”; the US ranked 23rd, with 14.1 deaths per 100 000 children."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl...port covers 26 of,deaths per 100 000 children.

I can think of two reasons the United States gets bad results despite spending more on health care than any other country.

First, a lot of the money that is spent on health care in the United States goes to insurance companies, rather than to hospitals, medicine, doctors, and nurses.

Second, many people in the United States have no health coverage at all. By the time they go to an emergency room serious problems have become much worse than they would be if regular doctor's visits were paid for.

I think the reason so many Americans tolerate Americas health system is selfishness. Those who are opposed to a single payer health care system think, "I do not want to pay their health bills."

 

[TastySuckToy]

"I do not want to pay their health bills."

It's perfectly reasonable to not want to pay other people's bills. I work to pay my bills, not other people's.

 

[JohnEngelman]

It's perfectly reasonable to not want to pay other people's bills. I work to pay my bills, not other people's.

So you would rather pay more, just to harm those who cannot afford to pay anything at all.

 

[UltraChad]

Reality is that people that you don't like need healthcare.

The person running away from that isn't me.

I agreed with you, so it's not me either. Keep tilting at them windmills boy!!!

Yes, you should tell them what healthcare you think they need. Good call.

Uhh rando spaz statement....nice!!

Before the ACA, insurance companies had the ability to sell insurance policies that literally did nothing but add money to their bottom line. That was fun.

Now the government forces you to buy them ....SO MUCH BETTER!!! SLOB THAT (D) KNOB EVERY CHANCE YOU GET BUD!!!

Yes, MAGA is fairly myopic. I'm sure this will lead to great success for everyone

More success than your side is seeing.

 

[ll74]

Now the government forces you to buy them ....SO MUCH BETTER!!! SLOB THAT (D) KNOB EVERY CHANCE YOU GET BUD!!!

The government forced healthcare companies to cease from offering shell plans.

More success than your side is seeing.

Ascription is all you know.

 

[MajorRewrite]

So you would rather pay more, just to harm those who cannot afford to pay anything at all.

That’s exactly it.

 

[TastySuckToy]

So you would rather pay more, just to harm those who cannot afford to pay anything at all.

Paying other people's bills doesn't make me pay more. It makes me pay less.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Paying other people's bills doesn't make me pay more. It makes me pay less.

You pretend to not understand that copying the healthcare system of any other developed nation would slash healthcare costs for all Americans.

Pretending to be dumb is pointless.

 

[TastySuckToy]

You pretend to not understand that copying the healthcare system of any other developed nation would slash healthcare costs for all Americans.

Pretending to be dumb is pointless.

I'll take your bullshit more seriously when you start paying my bills, and demonstrate how that saves you money.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I'll take your bullshit more seriously when you start paying my bills, and demonstrate how that saves you money.

Wow. You’re not pretending, you actually are dense. Here’s your award

The per-capita healthcare costs in other developed nations are half of the US’, and that includes the cost of covering everyone in those other nations.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Wow. You’re not pretending, you actually are dense. Here’s your award

The per-capita healthcare costs in other developed nations are half of the US’, and that includes the cost of covering everyone in those other nations.

Yes, I get it, you're complaining about how bloated healthcare systems and monstrous sized administrations cost people a fortune.

I already agree with that.

 

[Politruk]

Yes, I get it, you're complaining about how bloated healthcare systems and monstrous sized administrations cost people a fortune.

I already agree with that.

Only, they cost you only half what they cost us -- and yet you seem to think Canada should do it our way.

 

[icanhelp1]

You pretend to not understand that copying the healthcare system of any other developed nation would slash healthcare costs for all Americans.

Pretending to be dumb is pointless.

Until the fed gov can track down all the fraud in Medicare/Medicaid/Defense/IRS, I wouldn't trust our government with another penny of my money. A single payer system would just add to the bloat.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Until the fed gov can track down all the fraud in Medicare/Medicaid/Defense/IRS, I wouldn't trust our government with another penny of my money. A single payer system would just add to the bloat.

The leftie simpletons cannot comprehend that "doctor + patient" is always going to be cheaper and more efficient than "doctor + government + patient".

 

[ll74]

The leftie simpletons cannot comprehend that "doctor + patient" is always going to be cheaper and more efficient than "doctor + government + patient".

Doctor+$$+patient

That middle part is what most people can't afford without insurance.

Insurance for profit is the issue.

 

[domroger]

I think the reason so many Americans tolerate Americas health system is selfishness. Those who are opposed to a single payer health care system think, "I do not want to pay their health bills."

They are such idiots that they would rather pay double or more insurance rather than letting the poor get health care.To male matters worse most of them claim to be Christians.