Warrior Sub??? Come share your opinion!

[KoPilot]

Leo. Duh.

Damn. I guess I have to be one of the other 11 types of subs then.

 

[Que]

My assessment in tl;dr terms:

People are complicated, mufti-dimensional creatures.

People like to feel like they're special, and will sometimes [often] express themselves in passive aggressive terms, just to make sure everyone knows exactly how special they are.

It takes a lot of energy [and words] to defend one's specialness.

If enough energy [and words] are used to explain the points above, the likelihood of having lots of people cyber-high five the author increases exponentially.

High-Fiving your brevity!

(cause that's the kind of uber-special contrarian I is)

CutieMouse, all I know is that I now want to identify as mufti-dimensional.

It speaks to me. Thank you.

I am always dressed in the appointed uniform-dimensional way, never in mufti, unless I am wearing sports related paraphernalia strictly as camouflage to blend in with the locals..this I avoid as much as possible as if caught I can under the Geneva Convention be shot as a spy.

LOL. This is an amazing mental image.



Well, like you said, it's because they want to make themselves sound/feel more unique. People want to feel like they're weally speshul snowflakes. They create categories for themselves because it's means they're SO speshul that they had to have a label created just for them.

We're all guilty of it at some point, I know. But I think way too many people engage in too much navel-gazing and not enough fucking.

The vast majority of my fucking is entirely self-inflicted due to time/geographical/logistical/and motivational factors....On a good day I can reach my navel and fill it nearly to the brim with the results of my self flagellation.

first, tl;dr means "to long; didn't read" and is sometimes pronounced as "teal deer" as in "What a fucking herd of teal deer have been birthed in that flamefest!"

And Ive been part of that damn arts/crafts discussion plenty times, and you need the hide of a rhino in all of these, don't you!

And thirdly-- Warrior Sub sandwich FTW

First,firstly since teal deers are not actually mammals but the representation thereof they travel in plethora s of them or arrive in a veritable cornucopia that they spill forth therefrom.

Second, though I'm sure my posts have often been thought to contain said creatures I wouldnt take offense at such characterizations because when sush acronyms are hurled like invectives my way, I simply respond t.a;d.f.i.w.m.t.t.d.c.y.a. (too abbreviated; I didn't feel it worth my time to decode your accronyms)

And Third, The more you read the faster you get and the more you have time to read so lets have beans at every meal!

Post Script:

Those sandwiches I have seen far afield from the FTW (Fort Worth, Texas, U.S.A, North American Continent, Planet Earth)

You can order them in virtually any grinder or hoagie shop, just ask for extra cheeze, with lots of ham and bologna topped with some really macho pepper derived sauce)

 

[YourCaptor]

Mmm... Plot bunny of the most delicious wish-fulfillment kind. *runs off to research stunguns*

I think it would take a switch, cause she'd get rapped at least some of the time.

 

[FurryFury]

I'm clearly a warrior.

I'm also privately a sub.

What I am not and never will be is a brat. Not my thing and for me, a complete turn off at any age or relationship dynamic. Ugh.

 

[CutieMouse]

I was poking around Fet, and discovered the writings quoted in the OP were also posted on a certain former [~smiles~] Litizen's FetLife Group. I want to say what little regard I had for the writing remained intact... But I'd be lying.

I've often wondered over the last few years what drives pyl-types to so voraciously defend their "value", "strength", etc? It seems most common in people who are new[ish] to D/s. Sooooo much energy being blasted outward, defending things that don't really need defending...

(Aside - typos suck. Especially when you don't notice them until after they're quoted. lol)

 

[Stella_Omega]

If you're going to blame her because 'blubbed' quoted her, you're also going to have to lose your regard for Shakespeare.

Just saying.

As to what drives pyls to defend themselves? What drives women to defnd themselves, what drives people of color to defend themselves, what drives gays, lesbians, trans folk to defend themselves?

I would make a wild guess that all of these groups feel devalued by their surrounding culture.

And as always, I think many pyls are wrongly identifying themselves as submissive because they don't fucking know any other way to identify.

 

[Netzach]

If you're going to blame her because 'blubbed' quoted her, you're also going to have to lose your regard for Shakespeare.

Just saying.

As to what drives pyls to defend themselves? What drives women to defnd themselves, what drives people of color to defend themselves, what drives gays, lesbians, trans folk to defend themselves?

I would make a wild guess that all of these groups feel devalued by their surrounding culture.

And as always, I think many pyls are wrongly identifying themselves as submissive because they don't fucking know any other way to identify.

Annnnnnnd

if you're pyl, guess what you are RIGHT - the kink community basically will shit on you unless you assert your ass in stupid essays and every opportunity until you are definitely angling for the "no fun" label.

THEN you will be told you should assert less and fuck more. But sorry, at one point I was offered the wonderful opportunity to ID as something other than Dominant on the off chance I actually enjoy some of this stuff with a partner. Which I do. One partner. So that makes it 100 percent irrelevant to everyone else on the planet, as I see it.

YET I should be MADE to build this private part of my life into a public identity? I've seen what that gets me. I've flagged boi, I've flagged switch, and I have grown graciously into irascible female Dominant who does whatever she feels like doing with her lady parts.

I'm not joyfully out to reclaim "slut". I'm not out to get in touch with "my femininity." (which is always submissive or on display for general aesthetic enrichment) I'm not out to become communal grope property. I'm not out to tee hee fuck other girls for some dude's entertainment.

LOOK at the mainstream expectation on "subbies" at events. I may want to be on my knees in front of T once in a while, but I sure the fuck don't want that.

I'll keep any deviations to myself and reserve them for the one who has right to them in my eyes. AND I'll attack the problem from outside the definition. People listen more when self ID'd Dominants talk anyway.

 

[Stella_Omega]

People listen more when self ID'd Dominants talk anyway.

And people wonder why submissives get defensive/navel gaze.

 

[Netzach]

And people wonder why submissives get defensive/navel gaze.

We have a LONG way to go.

 

[Stella_Omega]

We have a LONG way to go.

A guy I know who really IS an Old Guard type-- in his eighties now-- says that in the old days of the leather clubs, boys were not supposed to be leaders in clubs... until everyone realised that being a leader is essentially service, and masters were not especially good at service.

And then, he says, things started getting done better.

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

I've often wondered over the last few years what drives pyl-types to so voraciously defend their "value", "strength", etc? It seems most common in people who are new[ish] to D/s. Sooooo much energy being blasted outward, defending things that don't really need defending...

I think dating of all sorts is all about marketing, at least at first. When one is desiring to be "owned", it seems kinda logical to me that one would market the traits that they posses that are worth "having". That said, when false assumptions are made over and over about what you are or are not based on the labels you may chose to market yourself with, eventually it would inevitably morph into a defensive tone, or even a jaded one... How could it not?

 

[Netzach]

A guy I know who really IS an Old Guard type-- in his eighties now-- says that in the old days of the leather clubs, boys were not supposed to be leaders in clubs... until everyone realised that being a leader is essentially service, and masters were not especially good at service.

And then, he says, things started getting done better.

Every time someone gets all misty eyed about the Old Guard, they tend to forget that everyone starts as a pig boy, you speak when you're spoken to, you walk x number of paces behind and women are not to be talked to and stuff like that.

It's a LOT of work, a LOT of insularity and definitely a right way of doing stuff local to you.

 

[Keroin]

I am a warrior sub, shooting at the walls of heartache.

Bang! Bang!

 

[sweetheart97]

BDSM is not a Hallmark card, you know. The community is made up of a lot of people with wildly varying needs and twists that render them unable or unwilling to enjoy vanilla sex, (some of them) or egalitarian relationships (some of them) -- for about two hundred umpty different reasons. The truth is-- we can't all get along. Not in close quarters.

True words from your uncle Stella.

Now I'm imagining a BDSM Hallmark card. Or some sort of Dairy Queen cake design equivalent.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Now I'm imagining a BDSM Hallmark card. Or some sort of Dairy Queen cake design equivalent.

Mmm... Dairy Queen. I could go for a soft serve cone. Vanilla.

 

[Que]

I am a warrior sub, shooting at the walls of heartache.

Bang! Bang!

SCANDALous

 

[Scentofawoman]

Mmm... Dairy Queen. I could go for a soft serve cone. Vanilla.

hey Stella you want nuts with that?

 

[Stella_Omega]

hey Stella you want nuts with that?

No thanks, I have my own.

*blink blink*

 

[Primalex]

I think dating of all sorts is all about marketing, at least at first. When one is desiring to be "owned", it seems kinda logical to me that one would market the traits that they posses that are worth "having". That said, when false assumptions are made over and over about what you are or are not based on the labels you may chose to market yourself with, eventually it would inevitably morph into a defensive tone, or even a jaded one... How could it not?

Stop writing simple answers. You ruin the lamenting of the crowd.

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

Stop writing simple answers. You ruin the lamenting of the crowd.

Well, I don't know that I can agree with you there as it seems that you have lamented my simple thoughts, which means there is hope that others (probably even many) will too, don't you think?

 

[midwestyankee]

Well, I don't know that I can agree with you there as it seems that you have lamented my simple thoughts, which means there is hope that others (probably even many) will too don't you think?

Don't ask Primalex to think. He drools when he thinks too hard and it messes up the ink on my monitor.

 

[missgiter]

I'm new... VERY new to the lifestyle. Sounds interesting, sounds a bit like I -could- be. Though , isn't just the term submissive, enough? I would expect respectful treatment - after all.. submissives aren't slaves. There IS a difference. Enough to think about, at least.

-a

 

[ownedsubgal]

I'm new... VERY new to the lifestyle. Sounds interesting, sounds a bit like I -could- be. Though , isn't just the term submissive, enough? I would expect respectful treatment - after all.. submissives aren't slaves. There IS a difference. Enough to think about, at least.

-a

some submissives are indeed slaves. and some slaves are not at all submissive. and why you seem to be under the impression that a slave status leaves one inherently disrespected or mistreated, i'm not sure.

 

[missgiter]

some submissives are indeed slaves. and some slaves are not at all submissive. and why you seem to be under the impression that a slave status leaves one inherently disrespected or mistreated, i'm not sure.

No, not disrespected nor mistreated, I was implying that I could relate more to the given text above in the original post. In my personal mind-set, I would see that perspective role more submissive, and something more extreme to be slave-like. We each have our own varying opinions of what defines each role, is all. And, my impressions are mine alone, and each could be different. I was only offering mine =). Glad to have insight to others, however.
-a

 

[Stella_Omega]

some submissives are indeed slaves. and some slaves are not at all submissive. and why you seem to be under the impression that a slave status leaves one inherently disrespected or mistreated, i'm not sure.

Because all throughout history, the condition of slavery has meant disrespect and abuse. Because the number of slaves that were or are respected and treated well is statistically negligible.


That's probably why.