What does Love-based bdsm look like?

[BLoved]

For example ...

Agreed. It's the action--banishing someone's opinion on the relevant subject based on a "rule" that doesn't exist--not the opinions that set me off on this. An adult can choose what to read and permit a board like this to serve other people's interests too.

 

[BLoved]

Another example ...

Oh, it's OK with me really that you don't understand that this is a story site. I'm not surprised that you are so narrow-minded and mad for what little authority has been given you. I suggest he just keep posting his BDSM discussions on his Lit. stories to BDSM if he wants and calls your bluff on whether Laurel is going to ban him for that. (So you dress up like a Roman legionairre when you do your little SM thing? )

(Off to check to see if you actually write stories for this site or are just a "talker" here. )

Back again. Oh, yes, I see. Whoopeedo. One story, nine years ago. A talker rather than a doer.

 

[shamegirl]

Wait a second. Since when does love have rules or standards?

 

[BLoved]

Wait a second. Since when does love have rules or standards?

If there are no rules or standards, why isn't everyone in love with everyone else?

Love depends on trust/trustworthiness.

Trust depends upon experience where trustworthiness is demonstrated.

Such experiences depend upon faith, for if we do not have faith in another's trustworthiness we are not going to give them the chance to show whether they have it or not.

Faith depends upon who we are as people, what conditions inspire our faith and what conditions do not.

 

[Stella_Omega]

The love relationships I share certainly have rules and standards. And minus the Dominant's omnipotence that Bloded seems to fixate on, my standards are very much the same-- trust, communication, safety, respect.

We each keep the title to our own cars, however.

And we do not require or expect utter fidelity from each other.

It's worked for thirty four years in one relationship, fifteen in the other one...

So far, so good.

 

[sr71plt]

Regardless of what you or anyone else believes, posting stories outside story forums counts as a rule violation.

BULLSHIT. Point to the rule. You have consistently been called on this ridiculous statement and haven't backed it up.

 

[Epmd607]

BULLSHIT. Point to the rule. You have consistently been called on this ridiculous statement and haven't backed it up.

Yo, she definitely did or I did, Rule 11 off the top of my head. Anyway, have you agreed or disagreed to the conditions for your victory and the conditions for my victory in this fantastic conflict? I think they're posted in this thread farther back.

 

[sr71plt]

Yo, she definitely did or I did, Rule 11 off the top of my head. Anyway, have you agreed or disagreed to the conditions for your victory and the conditions for my victory in this fantastic conflict? I think they're posted in this thread farther back.

Rule #11 doesn't say a thing about the relationship of stories to discussion forums.

Still trying to obfuscate?

Obviously trying to use a fake rule to foist off someone the "moderator" just doesn't agree with--and isn't adult enough just to ignore. That's not being a good moderator. That's needing to be moderated herself.

Point to the rule that says stories on a story site can't be used as the basis of a discussion in any discussion forum. (You actually named a few up the line and I successfuly refuted you on each one you named--and you just spun off to another topic. )

 

[Epmd607]

Rule #11 doesn't say a thing about the relationship of stories to discussion forums.

Still trying to obfuscate?

Obviously trying to use a fake rule to foist off someone the "moderator" just doesn't agree with--and isn't adult enough just to ignore. That's not being a good moderator. That's needing to be moderated herself.

Point to the rule that says stories on a story site can't be used as the basis of a discussion in any discussion forum. (You actually named a few up the line and I successfuly refuted you on each one you named--and you just spun off to another topic. )

Obfuscation is looking for a relationship of stories to discussion forums that don't include the word 'story/stories' in the sentence descriptor or title. I gave you a number of different forums where stories aren't welcome and are often moved. Just today I saw some guy complaining how the Amateur Pic Mod destroyed his thread because he was doing other things besides posting pics.

11. Please post content in the appropriate forum. We do not believe in censorship, but your posts will be moved or removed if you do not read the forum title before hitting "SUBMIT". Personal ads should be posted in the "Personals" forum, story ideas in the "Story Ideas" forum, BDSM issues in the BDSM forum, random nonsense on the General Board, and so on.

So, reading the forum title you get a hint at where stories are and aren't appropriate. I gave you a list of forums where stories are certainly not appropriate. BDSM Talk would be a forum where the moderators have leeway to either accept or reject stories as relevant to BDSM Talk as the sentence describing BDSM Talk leaves room for interpretation.

 

[Epmd607]

Okay, for me to win this competition the criteria is: This thread has to be merged with the other thread and moved to Story Discussion Circle?

But then that means the only way for you to win is if both this thread and its companion in SF don't get merged and both end up here in BDSM Talk. As they are two distinct threads and not identical according to you.

Just bumping this to give Sr71plt guidelines for winning, which still seem to make it easier for him to get the trophy.

 

[Etoile]

Not that I have to justify myself to anyone, but in the interest of fairness, I sent Laurel a PM to verify that I was interpreting Rule 11 correctly. She confirmed that I am.

Once again, anyone who disagrees with my moderation can feel free to stop whining and contact Laurel about it.

 

[sr71plt]

Not that I have to justify myself to anyone, but in the interest of fairness, I sent Laurel a PM to verify that I was interpreting Rule 11 correctly. She confirmed that I am.

Once again, anyone who disagrees with my moderation can feel free to stop whining and contact Laurel about it.

Gee, how did the thread in question get back here then? (translation: I don't believe that Laurel interprets rule #11 as saying that stories can't be the basis of discussions on any thread here. Methinks your nose is growing.)

You just want to dump an individual poster in someone else's lap and are making up fake rules to "justify" your actions.

But I see no reason to go another round on here. The thread was moved back, so of course you are lying about that.

 

[sr71plt]

Just bumping this to give Sr71plt guidelines for winning, which still seem to make it easier for him to get the trophy.

Those guidelines are as silly as you are. Who in any position of authority here gave those to you as guidelines?

What a chump.

 

[Etoile]

Gee, how did the thread in question get back here then? (translation: I don't believe that Laurel interprets rule #11 as saying that stories can't be the basis of discussions on any thread here. Methinks your nose is growing.)

You just want to dump an individual poster in someone else's lap and are making up fake rules to "justify" your actions.

But I see no reason to go another round on here. The thread was moved back, so of course you are lying about that.

I really cannot fathom why you wouldn't contact Laurel about these grievous offenses. Perhaps you know she'll say your're wrong...or maybe you're just scared to put your money where your mouth is.

 

[sr71plt]

I really cannot fathom why you wouldn't contact Laurel about these grievous offenses. Perhaps you know she'll say your're wrong...or maybe you're just scared to put your money where your mouth is.

Why should I? The thread is right back here. It was your flagrant violation of the "anything goes" forum rule by citing a rule that doesn't exist (and you've never been able to point to) that brought this to my attention at all--because you foisted what you see as your problem off on another forum (my that was noble).

I can't fathom why you are pretending there's a rule that doesn't exist and you can't point to. You don't try to enforce it except for against Bloved. Yesterday there were two poems slapped on here without any discussion at all. Under your bogus "no stories" "rule" you should have moved them to the Poetry Board (if you were allowed to get away with it.)

Stop pretending a rule exists that doesn't just because you don't want to read the posts by a single poster (which, if you were adult, you could just ignore).

There's nothing as bad in a "moderated" forum than a tin-horn dictator moderator making up her own rules that don't exist.

 

[Stella_Omega]

LOL pilot. If I tell you who you remind me of this time you'll try to pretend I'm homophobic.

 

[sr71plt]

LOL pilot. If I tell you who you remind me of this time you'll try to pretend I'm homophobic.

Nice beard.

(you sort of aren't the most consistent, ethical person on the block on this type of topic, ya know.)

For all I know you are homophobic--you certainly have supported gay bashers in the past. And then you didn't. And then you did. So, you know what I mean? It's all sort of a "what's in it for me?" ethic. At least you don't hide behind a "let's pretend" argument.

 

[Keroin]

Nice...

BTW, popped onto your website and there's a spelling mistake on the home page. "Failing in love" instead of "falling in love", (in the blurb for "Silas's Choice").

 

[sr71plt]

BTW, popped onto your website and there's a spelling mistake on the home page. "Failing in love" instead of "falling in love", (in the blurb for "Silas's Choice").

Thanks. I'll tell the publisher. Although, who knows, "failing in love" might work as well. It's so hard to tell one from the other these days.

 

[shamegirl]

If there are no rules or standards, why isn't everyone in love with everyone else?

Love depends on trust/trustworthiness.

Trust depends upon experience where trustworthiness is demonstrated.

Such experiences depend upon faith, for if we do not have faith in another's trustworthiness we are not going to give them the chance to show whether they have it or not.

Faith depends upon who we are as people, what conditions inspire our faith and what conditions do not.

I don't think that's true. Trust and honesty, are things you need for a long term relationship. I couldn't dispute that. But love is possible in a one night stand. To me love is a connection with and appreciation of one human being for another no matter how brief. It doesn't have to be mutual, it doesn't have to be monogamous, all those values come afterwards and are essentially there for the protection of the people involved.
I guess everyone has their own theory as to what love is.

 

[Epmd607]

Those guidelines are as silly as you are. Who in any position of authority here gave those to you as guidelines?

What a chump.

I thought for once in your Internet-based existence you'd like to have a way of ending an argument. As opposed to arguing with me for the next three years like you do with Scouries and BFW.

 

[Epmd607]

I also ask that this thread be merged with the thread in Story Feedback entitled: The Death of a Beloved, and the new thread be moved to Story Discussion Circle as that's the most appropriate place for discussing this Lit fiction topic.

Seeing as the current thread in Story Feedback was created in BDSM Talk to take the place of this thread when it resided in Story Feedback. Identical threads and all that. Well, the thread in SF is already covered in the TS's first couple posts...

 

[sr71plt]

I thought for once in your Internet-based existence you'd like to have a way of ending an argument. As opposed to arguing with me for the next three years like you do with Scouries and BFW.

Hey, you're the one who keeps reviving the argument--without saying anything new or pointing to what I say doesn't exist.

 

[sr71plt]

I also ask that this thread be merged with the thread in Story Feedback entitled: The Death of a Beloved, and the new thread be moved to Story Discussion Circle as that's the most appropriate place for discussing this Lit fiction topic.

Seeing as the current thread in Story Feedback was created in BDSM Talk to take the place of this thread when it resided in Story Feedback. Identical threads and all that. Well, the thread in SF is already covered in the TS's first couple posts...

Trying to foist it off on another set of folks? Bloved's discussion is clearly trying to be on the concept not on the stories as stories.

And as you have admitted up the line, your whole activity is focused on disrupting that discussion (rather than just ignoring what you don't want to discuss).

 

[Epmd607]

Trying to foist it off on another set of folks? Bloved's discussion is clearly trying to be on the concept not on the stories as stories.

And as you have admitted up the line, your whole activity is focused on disrupting that discussion (rather than just ignoring what you don't want to discuss).

See, we can go over to the SDC right now and see what a SDC thread consists of.

Most threads begin with a rundown of a story, a link to the story and then the OP opens up the floor with a question concerning the story over in SDC. So does this thread and the other threadlet in SF.

Then there's this thread http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=571450 moved by a moderator into SDC, featuring that Indian Giver, Cloudy. Let's look at the consistency. It's not about writing, it's about how people perceive erotica. So a thread in SDC doesn't even have to be on the topic of writing or feedback for a specific story.