What pissed you off today?

[the captians wench]

Thanks Wenchie, I'll try that. I don't know if the heat actually does me any good, but it's comforting, if that makes any sense.

Perfectly.

One of my mom's cousin's makes "cuddle bears" for her grandchildren using the same rice heating idea. So when they don't feel well they get that little warm cuddle bear to snuggle with. He may not really do any physical good, but he makes them feel better.

 

[redslady]

Perfectly.

One of my mom's cousin's makes "cuddle bears" for her grandchildren using the same rice heating idea. So when they don't feel well they get that little warm cuddle bear to snuggle with. He may not really do any physical good, but he makes them feel better.

I needs me a "cuddle bear"

 

[bhndblueyes88]

My degree program's library offers free coffee to everyone. All our students, staff, faculty, etc... It comes from donations, so it's cheap coffee. And it's made early in the morning (the one making it usually has to get there at 7, earlier during winter when people drink more), in large quantities. So in other words, it's crappy coffee.

But it still REALLY PISSES ME OFF when people bitch about it. You are being given free coffee, on demand, every day of the week. If you don't like it, don't drink it, but show some goddamned appreciation.

I am trying SO HARD not to tell this gal off right now. Like, typing in a response and walking away...typing a response, and walking away...the only positive thing is that I'm kind of proud of myself. The negative thing is that I'm in a really bad mood and I don't sleep well like this. So I need to spend the time to get in a better mood.

 

[BiBunny]

General rant:

I hate people who tell crazy people they don't need their medications, blah, blah, Big Pharma conspiracy, blah, blah, therapy, blah, blah, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps," blah, blah.

God-motherfucking-dammit, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Yes, I realize that antidepressants and benzos are over-prescribed. But just because you were able to "get over it" when you "got off your meds" does not mean that that route is for everyone. There's a world of difference in a genuine organic mental disorder and "Boo-hoo, I'm white, suburban, and upper-middle-class, and I feel sorry for myself." There is no cure for stupid.

I invite all the anti-med assholes out there to spend about a month with me without my meds. They wouldn't make it the whole month before they were paying me to go back on them.

That kind of bullshit is what made me go years and years without treatment, completely fucking up my own life, the lives of other people, and generally just self-destructing in nearly every way imaginable. I thought to myself if I could only get it together and make up my mind not to feel this way, I wouldn't. I thought it was my fault. I thought I was too lazy, too undisciplined, too erratic, too impulsive, too flighty, too...whatever.

But fuck that. It's a true illness, not a fucking character flaw or moral failing.

And as for your goddamn therapists? Most of them are about as useful as a screen door in a submarine. Sure, there are good ones. Most of them aren't--and I say this as a person with a psych degree. But no matter *how* good they are, they're pretty well useless when it comes to organic disorders. They can teach you how to cope better with your illness, but they cannot get at the root of the problem, which is abnormalities within the brain.

Besides, if I could talk myself out of being crazy, I'd have done it a long goddamn time ago.

Would you tell a diabetic he didn't need his meds? That if he just tried hard enough, he wouldn't be resistant to his own insulin anymore? Or if that's not a good enough example: Would you tell an epileptic not to take his anticonvulsants anymore? If he just "talked to someone" or got right with the Lord or whatever, he'd never have another seizure again?

All right, then. Keep your fucking opinions about psych meds to yourself. You have no idea the damage you're causing by spouting them off everywhere like you fucking know something.

Also? Don't tell me that my diagnosis is just the diagnosis du jour. Actually, it isn't. Mine is passe now, and furthermore, I've always been nuttier than a goddamn fruitcake. Believe me, I'm not doing this to be fucking trendy.

/rant

 

[kiwi_submissive]

I feel vaguely shitty. Sometimes talking to my dad has this affect.

Want to swap your dad for my mother? She should be a Private Investigator or Police Detective.

To sweeten the deal I will throw in some steamed broccoli and brussel sprouts.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

Hugs to you both.

DGE - I'm sorry I wanted to steal your dinner.

It's fine. I made a lot.

General rant:

I hate people who tell crazy people they don't need their medications, blah, blah, Big Pharma conspiracy, blah, blah, therapy, blah, blah, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps," blah, blah.

God-motherfucking-dammit, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Yes, I realize that antidepressants and benzos are over-prescribed. But just because you were able to "get over it" when you "got off your meds" does not mean that that route is for everyone. There's a world of difference in a genuine organic mental disorder and "Boo-hoo, I'm white, suburban, and upper-middle-class, and I feel sorry for myself." There is no cure for stupid.

I invite all the anti-med assholes out there to spend about a month with me without my meds. They wouldn't make it the whole month before they were paying me to go back on them.

<snip>

/rant

Nice rant. The people that say that shit would never tell a person with persistent high blood pressure that it should not be treated. We are odd about mental health in this/these country/countries.

Want to swap your dad for my mother? She should be a Private Investigator or Police Detective.

To sweeten the deal I will throw in some steamed broccoli and brussel sprouts.

Hmm...I don't know. It seems like a wash, at best.
And I sense a lack of true altruism here... ...you know, if you don't start eating some veggies, kiwi, you won't grow up big and strong.

 

[TarevaChine]

General rant:

I hate people who tell crazy people they don't need their medications, blah, blah, Big Pharma conspiracy, blah, blah, therapy, blah, blah, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps," blah, blah.

God-motherfucking-dammit, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

<SNIP>

/rant

Thank you Bunny! I have a family member who is bipolar and I am so sick of hearing people say the things that you have posted. Do people really think that she would act the way she does if she could help it. HELLO FUCKHEADS, get a clue!

Again, thank you and I am sorry that you have had to deal with this!

 

[kiwi_submissive]

It's fine. I made a lot.



Nice rant. The people that say that shit would never tell a person with persistent high blood pressure that it should not be treated. We are odd about mental health in this/these country/countries.



Hmm...I don't know. It seems like a wash, at best.
And I sense a lack of true altruism here... ...you know, if you don't start eating some veggies, kiwi, you won't grow up big and strong.

I stopped growing years ago, well up anyway now I just seem to grow out. But hey at 5'2 i am able to squash myself into lots of small random spaces.

 

[redslady]

A pain filled sleepless night and a way too early start to my work day.

If anyone knows of a good way to control neuro pain please let me know. Homeopathic, naturopathic, zen, drug, whatever, I don't want to do another night like last night.

The rice hot pack did bring some help though, thanks Wenchie

 

[Sir_Winston54]

General rant:

/rant

{{{Hugs}}}

 

[BiBunny]

Nice rant. The people that say that shit would never tell a person with persistent high blood pressure that it should not be treated. We are odd about mental health in this/these country/countries.

Good Lord, yes. I wanted to add something to what you've said, but I really can't, so I'll just agree.

Thank you Bunny! I have a family member who is bipolar and I am so sick of hearing people say the things that you have posted. Do people really think that she would act the way she does if she could help it. HELLO FUCKHEADS, get a clue!

Again, thank you and I am sorry that you have had to deal with this!

Thank you. I think what makes me the angriest about it is that there's plenty of research out there about brain changes in illnesses like schizophrenia and bipolar and, even to some degree, major depression. I'm not just talking about "chemical imbalances" or whatever, but actual structural abnormalities in the brain.

Organic. Not functional.

I'm doing it again, aren't I?

{{{Hugs}}}

*Hugs back* I you, namesake.

 

[PatchIsMe]

General rant:

Believe me, I'm not doing this to be fucking trendy.

/rant

Your rant is a good one. It isn't only the adults other adults do this to. I get it a lot for my son. He is severely ADHD (never thought there was such a thing!) with a couple of other co morbid issues. With out his meds, he is almost unable to function meaningfully. Oddly enough none of them have offered to take him for a few weeks with out meds. I'd love to pocket the $100.00 a month his meds cost. Thanks for your passion.

 

[Aurantica]

A pain filled sleepless night and a way too early start to my work day.

If anyone knows of a good way to control neuro pain please let me know. Homeopathic, naturopathic, zen, drug, whatever, I don't want to do another night like last night.

The rice hot pack did bring some help though, thanks Wenchie

I actually just listened to a podcast about laughter and apparently it can sort of be used to treat pain. 5 minutes or so of good solid belly laughter, for one person, was able to keep it away for 2 hours. I know this isnt for everyone, may not work for you, etc etc. At least it won't cost you much to try.

I really hope this helps, what you're going through sounds like it really sucks.

 

[BiBunny]

A pain filled sleepless night and a way too early start to my work day.

If anyone knows of a good way to control neuro pain please let me know. Homeopathic, naturopathic, zen, drug, whatever, I don't want to do another night like last night.

The rice hot pack did bring some help though, thanks Wenchie

Are you on any medications for it right now?

 

[the captians wench]

A pain filled sleepless night and a way too early start to my work day.

If anyone knows of a good way to control neuro pain please let me know. Homeopathic, naturopathic, zen, drug, whatever, I don't want to do another night like last night.

The rice hot pack did bring some help though, thanks Wenchie

I'm glad it helped even a little.

Good Lord, yes. I wanted to add something to what you've said, but I really can't, so I'll just agree.



Thank you. I think what makes me the angriest about it is that there's plenty of research out there about brain changes in illnesses like schizophrenia and bipolar and, even to some degree, major depression. I'm not just talking about "chemical imbalances" or whatever, but actual structural abnormalities in the brain.

Organic. Not functional.

I'm doing it again, aren't I?



*Hugs back* I you, namesake.

*huggles*

I'm sorry that people are stupid Bunny.

I always try to make the distinction that I don't feel antidepressants are right for me. I know some people need them, I know they serve a perpose, and I'm glad that they can help those people. Me, I know mine is hormone based and I wish that some one would agree with me so I can start feeling better instead of having antidepressants thrown at me and being told to "see some one" about it.

Oh and birth control, because I'm "that age"

 

[BiBunny]

*huggles*

I'm sorry that people are stupid Bunny.

I always try to make the distinction that I don't feel antidepressants are right for me. I know some people need them, I know they serve a perpose, and I'm glad that they can help those people. Me, I know mine is hormone based and I wish that some one would agree with me so I can start feeling better instead of having antidepressants thrown at me and being told to "see some one" about it.

Oh and birth control, because I'm "that age"

Yes, dahling. I am in no way talking about people like you.

You have PCOS, right? Birth control and antidepressants just mask the symptoms; they don't treat the underlying metabolic issues that cause it. Doctors should be smart enough to know that.

 

[the captians wench]

Yes, dahling. I am in no way talking about people like you.

You have PCOS, right? Birth control and antidepressants just mask the symptoms; they don't treat the underlying metabolic issues that cause it. Doctors should be smart enough to know that.

Yup.

Unfortunately most PCOS specialists are fertility doctors. In their minds you are either trying to get pregnant or trying to not get pregnant and there is nothing inbetween. Either you want kids or you don't. End of story.

I have a doc apointment with a new GP Monday. I set it up so I can get a refurral to the specialist I want to see. She specializes in PCOS and metabolic disorders. I don't care if she's in plan or not. I'll pay the extra money to have some one actually help me rather than just treat me.

 

[Velvet Bubbles]

I loved your rant. Made me feel good! I've been suicidal since I was TEN YEARS OLD. And they want to tell me that the depression will go away. Mom says it's bugged me since the day I was born. If that's not a chemical malfunction in my brain, then what is?! I had to spend over SIX MONTHS getting my moronic GP to change the meds that weren't working any more. SHE felt that the body can't get used to them. <sighs> The new ones are helping. Glad I stuck to my guns! <wonders where that phrase came from>

On the other current note, a friend gave me one of those rice packs years ago. I'm still using it. It's awesome! I would suggest putting a shot glass with a bit of water in it when heating it up in the microwave. Keeps the rice just moist enough that it doesn't burn. Should work with your other one too if you were to replace/reuse it.

I so want one of those teddy bears. What an wonderful idea! I'd buy one for every kid I know if I had the money for that many. LOL And one for me too.

 

[the captians wench]

I loved your rant. Made me feel good! I've been suicidal since I was TEN YEARS OLD. And they want to tell me that the depression will go away. Mom says it's bugged me since the day I was born. If that's not a chemical malfunction in my brain, then what is?! I had to spend over SIX MONTHS getting my moronic GP to change the meds that weren't working any more. SHE felt that the body can't get used to them. <sighs> The new ones are helping. Glad I stuck to my guns! <wonders where that phrase came from>

On the other current note, a friend gave me one of those rice packs years ago. I'm still using it. It's awesome! I would suggest putting a shot glass with a bit of water in it when heating it up in the microwave. Keeps the rice just moist enough that it doesn't burn. Should work with your other one too if you were to replace/reuse it.

I so want one of those teddy bears. What an wonderful idea! I'd buy one for every kid I know if I had the money for that many. LOL And one for me too.

I was told to never put any water in with the rice or get the bag wet as it could lead to mold. And since the rice is in a pack, you can't see the mold forming.

 

[bhndblueyes88]

Doctors should be smart enough to know that.

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*wheeze* oh god my ribs....


The problem isn't that doctors aren't smart...the problem is that doctor's don't think beyond the diagnosis and the symptoms. That's the main reason why I'm a proponent of holistic medicine. It's Whole. You can't just treat a disease. You have to treat the whole person, or you'll just continue to have a sick person.

 

[BiBunny]

Yup.

Unfortunately most PCOS specialists are fertility doctors. In their minds you are either trying to get pregnant or trying to not get pregnant and there is nothing inbetween. Either you want kids or you don't. End of story.

I have a doc apointment with a new GP Monday. I set it up so I can get a refurral to the specialist I want to see. She specializes in PCOS and metabolic disorders. I don't care if she's in plan or not. I'll pay the extra money to have some one actually help me rather than just treat me.

Good luck, Wenchie. I hope this one helps you.

I loved your rant. Made me feel good! I've been suicidal since I was TEN YEARS OLD. And they want to tell me that the depression will go away. Mom says it's bugged me since the day I was born. If that's not a chemical malfunction in my brain, then what is?! I had to spend over SIX MONTHS getting my moronic GP to change the meds that weren't working any more. SHE felt that the body can't get used to them. <sighs> The new ones are helping. Glad I stuck to my guns! <wonders where that phrase came from>

Yeahhh...probably not going to go away on its own. People are fucktarded. Drives me crazy(er). Maybe we should start a thread?

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*wheeze* oh god my ribs....


The problem isn't that doctors aren't smart...the problem is that doctor's don't think beyond the diagnosis and the symptoms. That's the main reason why I'm a proponent of holistic medicine. It's Whole. You can't just treat a disease. You have to treat the whole person, or you'll just continue to have a sick person.

I've had pretty good luck with doctors myself. I know plenty of folks who haven't, though. It's gotta suck when you've got both "normal" people and doctors jerking you around.

 

[redslady]

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*wheeze* oh god my ribs....


The problem isn't that doctors aren't smart...the problem is that doctor's don't think beyond the diagnosis and the symptoms. That's the main reason why I'm a proponent of holistic medicine. It's Whole. You can't just treat a disease. You have to treat the whole person, or you'll just continue to have a sick person.

One of my biggest pet peeves with doctors is when I react to a med and develop one or more of the side effects they treat it like a whole new illness. I've learn not to trust doctors when it comes to meds, when in doubt I always go to the pharmacist.

 

[CutieMouse]

Good Lord, yes. I wanted to add something to what you've said, but I really can't, so I'll just agree.



Thank you. I think what makes me the angriest about it is that there's plenty of research out there about brain changes in illnesses like schizophrenia and bipolar and, even to some degree, major depression. I'm not just talking about "chemical imbalances" or whatever, but actual structural abnormalities in the brain.

Organic. Not functional.

I'm doing it again, aren't I?

I'm probably one of the few on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum you ranted about... Someone even casually mentions something like bipolar disorder, and I come full stop and ask if they're on or off their meds. If they try to give me some BS about not needing them, or handeling it holisticall/naturopathically, or that their therapist feels talk-therapy alone is enough for now... Well... Let's just say my reaction isn't pretty.


*Hugs back* I you, namesake.[/QUOTE]

 

[BiBunny]

I'm probably one of the few on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum you ranted about... Someone even casually mentions something like bipolar disorder, and I come full stop and ask if they're on or off their meds. If they try to give me some BS about not needing them, or handeling it holisticall/naturopathically, or that their therapist feels talk-therapy alone is enough for now... Well... Let's just say my reaction isn't pretty.

Would that there were more people in the world like you!

 

[bhndblueyes88]

I'm probably one of the few on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum you ranted about... Someone even casually mentions something like bipolar disorder, and I come full stop and ask if they're on or off their meds. If they try to give me some BS about not needing them, or handeling it holisticall/naturopathically, or that their therapist feels talk-therapy alone is enough for now... Well... Let's just say my reaction isn't pretty.


*Hugs back* I you, namesake.

[/QUOTE]

I'm kind of in a middle ground. If someone is able to manage their problems without meds, I think that is preferable to taking meds. THAT BEING SAID. They better be ACTUALLY able to manage their problems without meds. If they need medication to be a balanced and healthy individual, then they bloody well should take them!!