What's for Dinner?

[drinkz]

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[Aquagal]

You copied me... I had pinto beans! Someone has an obsession with bacon.

Seriously, who doesn't love bacon?

The hamhocks and beans, once tired of after a couple days will eventually become chimichanga filling. Without bacon.

 

[NiceNastyMann]

Some Atkins microwave

Cheap, calories, has meat in it.

Did it taste good?

Hmm.

Didn't notice.

Guess that's a feature, not a bug.

 

[Que]

moved from dead thread.

 

[Que]

Not sure you guys have heard of these, but here in Australia they're what we call vegetables. *giggle* These are tossed in garlic and mixed herbs and will be oven roasted tonight, and served with either milk poached chicken breast with peppercorn sauce or chicken kiev depending on how lazy I am feeling.

I thought I'd post a picture for those not familiar with what vegetables look like. In here we have your standard veggies of carrot, potato, cauliflower, spanish onion, butternut pumpkin and garlic cloves and I will throw in beans and broccoli about 5 minutes before they're due to be served.

Yummy. Looks like a fine roasting to begin a bouillabaisse. I guess you could just, what eat them? There's a pot-roast to go with them? Kidding.

The other afternoon I did stir-fry some peppers and onions and served it in a burrito with some healthy avocado (and steak fajitas).

 

[Matryoshka]

I posted this on what's cookin but thought I'd share it here since it was so awesome to finally BBQ!
Cheeseburgers, macaroni salad, deviled eggs, seasoned roasted potatoes, and homemade onion rings. Yay!

 

[drinkz]

Query, you have successfully trolled me. Although the amount of effort you put in demonstrates that you suck at life, hence your divorce, it shows your diligence to spread your conspiracies through the internetz. That should be rewarded. I ask that you take this thread as your own. Make it grow, grasshopper, make it grow!

 

[silverwhisper]

matroyshka, thanks to you my philosophy from now on will be: when in doubt, grill.

ed

 

[drinkz]

Query, you have successfully trolled me. Although the amount of effort you put in demonstrates that you suck at life, hence your divorce, it shows your diligence to spread your conspiracies through the internetz. That should be rewarded. I ask that you take this thread as your own. Make it grow, grasshopper, make it grow!

 

[drinkz]

Query, you have successfully trolled me. Although the amount of effort you put in demonstrates that you suck at life, hence your divorce, it shows your diligence to spread your conspiracies through the internetz. That should be rewarded. I ask that you take this thread as your own. Make it grow, grasshopper, make it grow!

 

[NightL]

why?
http://www.bariatec.com/obesity-global-statistics.html

 

[NightL]

Top 10 Obesity-Related Diseases – The Truth About Being Obese
https://www.mediweightlossclinics.com/patients/resources/articles/obesity-facts/

 

[drinkz]

Query, you have successfully trolled me. Although the amount of effort you put in demonstrates that you suck at life, hence your divorce, it shows your diligence to spread your conspiracies through the internetz. That should be rewarded. I ask that you take this thread as your own. Make it grow, grasshopper, make it grow!

 

[NightL]

Now I'm wondering if you first sent that message to the authors of the website articles I linked?

Probably not eh?

 

[drinkz]

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[Que]

You are correct. correlation never proves causation. Where you err is that correlation is a useful investigative tool. Correlation surely does not disprove causation.

You are likely correct that many people with obesity issues do make poor lifestyle choices...but again, correlation is not causation. I happen to think you are correct, and it an (obviously) reasonable assumption to infer when you have observed obese people being sedentary in your anecdotal experience, but it doesn't prove causation.

The correlation that you can eat fried potatoes and maintain your weight is not probative. You mentioned that you engage in exorcise. You state that the key is calories consumed versus calories expended. (Obviously true.)

At issue is whether people who know what calories they are likely to expend on a regular basis should consume calorie-dense fried foods. Does it provide them the level of satisfaction that they desire in their intake of daily calories if that means that they need to eat less volume?

These are all personal choices, but designing a plan for your intake starting around fried foods is not on any dieticians list of strong recommendations.

That said my body seems to handle fats fairly well. My ex, not so well. The caloric content of food just like the vitamin content is what is available in the food. It is not necessarily what your body will extract from it. Infinitive variables in the digestion process make that vary by the person. Some studies of liver enzymes suggest a link between obesity in some people to their body not processing fats well.

As you pointed out in another thread the body can manufacture sugars from fat, but it doesn't start with the ingested fat or your own stored fat reserves. Those are a last resort...if it has straight sugar to burn, it does that first. That's fairly obvious since everyone has experienced a "sugar high".

Fat is quite easy for the body to tuck into a simpatico fat cell without too much work expended, so it tends to do that.

What works for one, does not work for another. Clearly the correlated link between ingestion of saturated fats and arteriole-sclerosis isn't really a controversy. I am not a fan of "fat-free" products for a lot of reasons similar to my take sugar free sweeteners. Your taste buds are designed to encourage a wide variety of foods and some fats seem to be indicated as that is usually what provides the satisfying mouth feel. If a modest portion of fried potatoes gives you that, I just ate a satisfying meal feeling, It may well be a good choice for you. Unsaturated fats are better for you, but that is a separate argument since the caloric content of all fat sources is relatively constant.

I suddenly feel like some bacon. Not the deep-fried, State-Fair, kind...just the regular kind, swimming in a delicious pool of its own rendering.

 

[drinkz]

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[XsNrg]

Portabellos, chicken and peppers on the grill.......

 

[Que]

Didn't quote the rest, because I agree with it.

However, recent research has shown that the last sentence isn't true. Or at least the way most people would take it isn't true. Dietary fat does not convert directly to body fat. There is a growing body of knowledge that shows the body's preference is that sugar is converted to body fat. That sugar may come from metabolism of carbohydrates, protein, or fat.

true..there isnt a molecule of bacon fat residing next to some buttermilk fat in one of my fat cells in my spare tire like a ziplock baggie. So yes, that is sort of incorrect to phrase it that way. I don't have any idea about the molecular chemisrty of any of this but my gut (heh) says that the conversion from this molecule to that to yet again something else is easier starting from fat.

I think that the work you are referencing regarding rapid conversion by some of simple sugars directly to fat storage may also be in the same vein as what i was referencing regarding liver enzymes. I DO happen to think the vast majority of all of this is lifestyle, as you suggest. Take for example diabetes...do people who simply consume too many calories get it...as the weight goes on, activity decreases..the old vicious cycle...

I think though I agree you can predict that improving the calories consumed versus calories expended ratio is a good predictor of weight gain or loss. My gut again says that if you improve that ratio by increasing activity versus decreasing calories (resulting in the same hypothetical ratio) you are better off...the body is a huge industrial park of little chemical factories...I suspect that it runs better when it goes for a run. It was designed to be active.

We know for example about endorfin release from strenuous activity. That reward center bump is clearly a design feature. Why? Dunno. Maybe the conversion of ADP to ATP in the muscles provides a necessary chemical process that helps an enzyme or something.

Plus look at food as possible self medicating...I didn't get my endorfine release from hunting down wild, (lean... heh!), game, so I will substitute a sugar rush.

Like that.

I saw a pretty interesting anti-processed food documentary screed. Again to your initial point about correlation it doesn't PROVE anything that America got fat when we invented a way to put corn in everything.

I think convenience and prosperity caused it. Sure poor people are even more apt to be obese, but bear in mind (trying to keep this non-political) their caloric intakes are heavily (heh) subsidized.

It takes no time to nuke something cheap and calorie laden..and you can munch some chips while you are bored for the 3 minutes it takes to do that.

my takeaway from that documentary with nutritionist is we all KNOW certain things though by themselves not instant death are not nutrient rich...

On the other hand we all KNOW that some foods that mom made us eat is nutrient rich...

they advised adding nutrient dense foods and note that if you go throughout your day foraging for good things to put in you, you find you have by default eaten less of the "bad".

I'd stack your home fried potatoes up against a lean cusine meal anyday. I am not anti-food processing...that industry fed me in my youth in more than one way, but I would rather know what is in the meal I am eating and prefer starting from scratch if feasible..

I am not an anti gmo nut, but I'd rather an heirloom or wild foraged version...

I had lost track of the other foodie thread so I was glad to see you started one over here...I think people are healthier and they spend less money if they cook for themselves, so its my little thing, here and elsewhere.

 

[Que]

Portabellos, chicken and peppers on the grill.......

geeze that sounds good...

That reminds me I have to start a fire. A friend was going to drop by with brats.

YUMMY fat-laden bratz...ha!

 

[drinkz]

Query, you have successfully trolled me. Although the amount of effort you put in demonstrates that you suck at life, hence your divorce, it shows your diligence to spread your conspiracies through the internetz. That should be rewarded. I ask that you take this thread as your own. Make it grow, grasshopper, make it grow!

 

[Matryoshka]

No pics tonight but...grilled portabellas, squash, zucchini in a light marinade, then put them on a herb roll with roasted peppers and lettuce. Also had hummus with fresh cauliflower, broccoli and baby carrots and dill potato salad.

Healthy eating so I can enjoy the left over fried onion rings...

 

[drinkz]

Query, you have successfully trolled me. Although the amount of effort you put in demonstrates that you suck at life, hence your divorce, it shows your diligence to spread your conspiracies through the internetz. That should be rewarded. I ask that you take this thread as your own. Make it grow, grasshopper, make it grow!

 

[sereneone4u]

Baked turkey breast, mashed potatoes, spinach, black eyed peas.

 

[Que]

Something for everyone...

Bratwurst over coals. For the Carnivores.

Frozen Peppers. For those Veggie Lovin' Weirdos.

...Sauted in Butter for the Sat-Fat Fans.

Added Honey (to sweeten dispositions) into the-

...Mustard, for the Condiment Contingent.