Where the Nice Guys are...

[EjAcKuLaToR]

Probably what happened was the original poster was aced out by a "nice guy" like me who wasn't afraid to go after the chick. While some of the points are valid, I think the approach is a crybaby approach. It's basically a nice guy defending himself against NO ONE.

Like I said, I consider myself a nice guy, but at the same time what women WANT is a MAN. Be a man, quit whining about being a nice guy and having your gonads stepped on by women who want a MAN.

 

[silverwhisper]

velvet, i think the writer qualifies this sufficiently so as not, at least for me, to trip the misogyny button. but yes, i do agree the "woe is me" card's been played here, and that i'd missed on my first reading. i still see a lot of bitterness and hurt in this rather than bile or venom, though.

heh...bad experiences in romantic relationships are, i believe, unavoidable for most men, cuz most of us usually need a kick in the pants to make that realization. :> but thank you, velvet.

ed

 

[VelvetDarkness]

velvet, i think the writer qualifies this sufficiently so as not, at least for me, to trip the misogyny button. but yes, i do agree the "woe is me" card's been played here, and that i'd missed on my first reading. i still see a lot of bitterness and hurt in this rather than bile or venom, though.

heh...bad experiences in romantic relationships are, i believe, unavoidable for most men, cuz most of us usually need a kick in the pants to make that realization. :> but thank you, velvet.

ed

I think that most of us (male and female) mess up our first relationship, whether it was doomed from the start or not. If it's messed up for us we get the lesson without the guilt is all.

I think that the sexes are fairly evenly matched when it comes to being selfish and inconsiderate in relationships.

Maybe the guy was more bitter and hurt than venomous but I still saw a lot of misdirected anger there.

 

[silverwhisper]

well, i believe i've already stated that my own view may not be entirely objective, so i propose we agree to disagree and pursue other avenues of discussion that would be more entertaining. :>

hope you had a good new year's, velvet. :>

ed

 

[VelvetDarkness]

well, i believe i've already stated that my own view may not be entirely objective, so i propose we agree to disagree and pursue other avenues of discussion that would be more entertaining. :>

hope you had a good new year's, velvet. :>

ed

Sounds good to me. Master and I had a very good New Year's thankyou. We fibbed a bit in order to get time to ourselves, stay in and be insular and coupley. It was very cool.

Hope you had a good time too hon. Is there a Ms Silverwhisper or a prospective one?

 

[silverwhisper]

there is indeed. we've been together since 1990 and married going on 10 years now. :> i totally get fibbing to have some alone time.

we had friends over, another couple. my marriage is a tad unusual in that my wife periodically hooks up w/ the woman in that couple, and did again during their visit.

ed

 

[Cynical99]

heh, reading this over...I sort of agree on a few points.
but then again, I totally disagree on the "nice guy" ideal this guy has.

like when I was in highschool, I was considered the "nice guy"..
no I didn't cry to people about things, or I wasn't solely there being a shoulder to cry on.
I simply was polite, I didn't get mad at any girls, made everyone laugh, I flirted, but made girls feel comfortable with me...which some how made more then a few of the prettiest girls I've ever met, want a relationship with me, they said I was a "nice guy" and they felt safe with me.

now this author says nice guys are the ones with low confidence, who are totally
ruined by women?

thats crap, they may be nice guys but they're whiny push overs too. they need to adjust themselves, they're men -they- should work at getting a girl's attention and have the guts make a girl take notice they're intrested...


anywho it's late I'm not sober so sorry about the grammar errors