Why is White Dom, Black Sub porn not available?

Hey, I want to say that I really appreciate the support of people in this thread. I was upset when KillSwitch first started his racist bullshit on me, not because there is one racist moron on Lit, but because others that I trusted turned a blind eye.

As a very integrated minority I am often surprised by the prejudices people have, and events in the past have put my surroundings into question. It means a lot to me, and I mean a lot, that this thread -started by KS- would live on to make fun of his troglodytic perspective.

A shout out to all.
 
Marquis said:
The sad part is there probably is some twisted sista out there who fetishizes fucking some old racist loser as a humiliation fantasy. All he has to do is get off her ass and find her.

osg has had and talked about living that fantasy out to completion. Correct me if i am wrong osg.

Bottom line, we have all types of bottom dwellers here looking to push buttons when confronted with their own inadequacies or frustration with being rejected. Up to you whether they're worth your time or your attention.

If it is unclear, i thought the comments were dead wrong, but not atypical to the instigator. Now that you know what you're dealing with, it shouldn't be too hard to step over the garbage. Doing otherwise is playing the game.

Back to topic, the White Dom, black sub porn is out there and while it may not be as wildly popular as White Dom/white female sub or Black Domme/white male sub porn, it does have its fans.

As a side note, given the nature of the thread starter, i thought RJMasters posting hysterical.

lara
 
s'lara said:
osg has had and talked about living that fantasy out to completion. Correct me if i am wrong osg.

Bottom line, we have all types of bottom dwellers here looking to push buttons when confronted with their own inadequacies or frustration with being rejected. Up to you whether they're worth your time or your attention.

If it is unclear, i thought the comments were dead wrong, but not atypical to the instigator. Now that you know what you're dealing with, it shouldn't be too hard to step over the garbage. Doing otherwise is playing the game.


lara

It was clear, you're one of the good guys. :)

OSG and KillSwitch. I hear wedding bells.
 
Marquis said:
It was clear, you're one of the good guys. :)

OSG and KillSwitch. I hear wedding bells.

OK.

Christ, that would be bizarro world nuptials. Can't even fathom it.

Degradation on that level is not for the faint of heart. It does pluck at the masochists need for debasement though. Fine line to walk as it could reinforce some negative self-imagery. i think i recall osg talking about it in detail. i'll see if i can find it.

lara
 
ownedsubgal said:
am so glad someone brought this up. a Dominant i used to serve enjoyed writing degrading things on my body and then taking pictures of his handy work. He was very much into race "play" (for lack of a better word), and would write things like "white man's cunt" on my tummy with an arrow pointing down to my pussy, or "my nigger" with "my" on one butt cheek and "nigger" on the other, with his hands cupping my bottom.

because my skin is more a milk chocolately color, he had to do quite a bit of experimenting with different markers to find one that would actually show up well. not sure of the exact kind he used in the end though as i was always blindfolded during the process.

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=9376070&highlight=*nigger*#post9376070


ownedsubgal said:
as an american born and raised in the south, i am far from color blind. the races are still not equal (as far as rights, the law, etc.) in our society so one can't help but see color. for some, race does indeed play a factor in their D/s or bdsm lives. my dream Master was the older, white, distinguished southern gent...it honestly never occured to me that i could be owned by a man of my own race (black). as a newbie to the lifestyle, and as a young black female southerner, when i heard the word "Master", i automatically thought...white man. just seemed natural to me. and even now, that i have fallen madly and hopelessly in love with, and am forever the property of, an awesome, powerful, beautiful black Man, i still have a place inside of myself, a part of my submission, that is sort of reserved for Dominant (even slightly Dominant) white men. it's nothing i think about consciously, it's just a different way i carry myself, a different flavor to my service, when the man is white. before i met Daddy, i had an experience with a white Dominant who referred to me as a nigger, and in his presence made me refer to myself that way. it was difficult for me...on the one hand, i was highly insulted/offended/hurt at being called (and seen as) such a degrading thing, then on the other hand, being degraded in that way somehow felt "right". since then i've come across many white Dominants who use that word and other racial slurs with either their own black sub or those they play with...for some it's just a fun kink, with others it's brutal honesty under the guise of kink. i tend to gravitate towards the honest types.

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=7126683&highlight=*white*#post7126683
 
I once had a boyfriend who was so racist that he thought that all people who had brown eyes were inferior to those who had blue eyes. As much as I pitied him for his lack of intellectual vigor (or was it moral fiber? It was one of those things!), sex with him became much hotter for me after he made this admission, because I have brown eyes and he had blue and the submissive inside me (this was in my vanilla days so I wasn't too aware of that creature yet) was thrilled with the whole "inferior being fucked by a superior" fantasy. Actually, what really turned me on was not the idea that he was my superior (I didn't exactly see him that way) but that he genuinely believed that he was my superior. That attitude in him, I mean, knowing I was fucking a guy who at every moment thought he was utterly superior to me, was the key that turned my engine over--and still does to this day.

That's what a lot of the racial edgeplay that people engage in boils down to for me: it's just another way to make unjust extremes in power more extreme and more unjust, and therefore more hot.
 
I'm going to carefully, without stepping on anyone's toes, agree somewhat with what Tainted said. In our minds...maybe we see one race as being more dominant than another....?
 
Uh oh! A quick clarification: unlike that blue-eyed skinhead precursor I dated so many years ago, I don't believe any one race is more dominant than the other (although the majority of members of some nationalities certainly do seem to think they are!--deliberate cough in England's direction) but it can be fun at times to pretend that superiority with someone of a different race who is willing.

Another bdsm-politically-incorrect-edgeplay area that attracts me is Nazi play, particularly interrogation scenes. While a submissive can also do fun and educational interrogation scenes with somebody who does good imiatation of a member of the Holy Office back in its heyday, those types are much harder to find than pretend-nazis, at least in the places I hang out in.
 
TaintedB said:
Uh oh! A quick clarification: unlike that blue-eyed skinhead precursor I dated so many years ago, I don't believe any one race is more dominant than the other (although the majority of members of some nationalities certainly do seem to think they are!--deliberate cough in England's direction) but it can be fun at times to pretend that superiority with someone of a different race who is willing.

Another bdsm-politically-incorrect-edgeplay area that attracts me is Nazi play, particularly interrogation scenes. While a submissive can also do fun and educational interrogation scenes with somebody who does good imiatation of a member of the Holy Office back in its heyday, those types are much harder to find than pretend-nazis, at least in the places I hang out in.

Yikes! I certainly don't believe that any race is more dominant than another. Certain people just know how to play the game better and with more convincing actions. In a way it is all about acting.

But it's hella hard to explain so I'm better off leaving this one alone.
 
EKVITKAR said:
No white Dom, black sub porn????

There isn't???

Hmm Well...That sucks.

By Golly lets make some...


How bout it ..Rosco, Marquis, you in????

I have a few select pieces from my sub training.........

:devil:
 
Marquis said:
Wow, can't believe I never saw those before!
Amazing what a simple search can accomplish isn't it.

Without knowing osg, anyone could have found one of the threads, including the individual with an agenda that started this discussion.

Pity it didn't get merged into the original off the bat just to snuff the flame out of his hot air balloon.
 
TaintedB said:
Actually, what really turned me on was not the idea that he was my superior (I didn't exactly see him that way) but that he genuinely believed that he was my superior. That attitude in him, I mean, knowing I was fucking a guy who at every moment thought he was utterly superior to me, was the key that turned my engine over--and still does to this day.

That's what a lot of the racial edgeplay that people engage in boils down to for me: it's just another way to make unjust extremes in power more extreme and more unjust, and therefore more hot.


you hit the nail on the head there...it's that knowledge that the man using my body actually truly believes he is superior to me because of my skin color, that makes raceplay so appealing. knowing that in his eyes i am less, and meant only for that one purpose (sex), touches all my submissive buttons. it's a desire that i used to be very ashamed of, but now i just accept it and revel in it.
 
Slightly off topic, but I feel the same way about the opposite pairing. It would feel like reparations or something to that effect. A reassertion of power? I'm not quite sure. It is something I fantasize about though. (My wife teases me about having jungle fever!)
 
I find the whole cocktail less about reinforcing existing modes of power, for me, and more attractive in a "reclaiming and revisting" sense, creating a neutral ground to explore some of the most loaded shit life lobs at us.

One of the few heavy bottom fantasies I have is to have my head shaved by blue eyed jackbooted aryan chicks in uniform. This should come as no huge surprise.

I will only go there with people who can articulate a good sound reason, in my eyes and my own personal judgement, for wanting to go there. The one black guy I did that kind of verbal abuse with said "I fight against this shit every day, I trust you to create an experience for me where I can just lose that fight and it's ok." This made a lot of sense to me.
 
Netzach said:
"I fight against this shit every day, I trust you to create an experience for me where I can just lose that fight and it's ok."
Yes yes yes. Not just in a racial situation, but in a gender situation, an orientation situation, all kinds of things. Anything someone can be discriminated against for, they can have this same feeling. Makes sense to me too.
 
I will have to say that I have never cared much one way or the other about a persons race...

But I will also be forced to admit that I LOVE the contrasting skin tones...*sigh*
What can I say? It appeals to the random artistic spasms in me.
 
EKVITKAR said:
I will have to say that I have never cared much one way or the other about a persons race...

But I will also be forced to admit that I LOVE the contrasting skin tones...*sigh*
What can I say? It appeals to the random artistic spasms in me.

I love contrasting skin tones as well.

My last girlfriend was roughly the same color as I, but with yellow instead of red undertones. I am often attracted to incredibly dark women because of the contrast on our skin, as well as to the coppery tone white women get when they are tanned.

I'm not incredibly turned on by paleness, but I find its rare to see a pale girl with a good body. The day I find one of those... oooh she's gonna get the business.
 
Marquis said:

I'm not incredibly turned on by paleness, but I find its rare to see a pale girl with a good body. The day I find one of those... oooh she's gonna get the business.

I am, I have, and she does........

:D She makes me look positively dark...which is something of an odd experience..

Reminds me just a touch of that incredibly delicate porcelain you used to see in dolls...
 
I dated a biracial woman, Afro-Puerto Rican dad, white Jewish NYC mom. Yes, contrasting skin in clean floral sheets is a great, unforgettable visual. :)

It weirded me out a little, but she really got off on being racially fetishized to a certain extent. Not called names and talked down to, but the " woman of color is more primal, more sexually in tune, more liberated, more naturally inclined to please a man" kind of thing really turned her on and resonated for her. I'm not one to tell anyone what to be turned on by and what not to be turned on by, but here I was, deathly paranoid of fetishizing my first significant partner who was a person of color, and here she was totally down with the "exotic erotic" thing. Go figure. I think it's cool that she didn't let how she wanted to be treated on the street and at coffee invade how she wanted to be viewed in bed.
 
EKVITKAR said:
I will have to say that I have never cared much one way or the other about a persons race...

But I will also be forced to admit that I LOVE the contrasting skin tones...*sigh*
What can I say? It appeals to the random artistic spasms in me.


i guess in this one way i am color blind, because i have never cared one way or the other about skin complexion. so while i get a charge from the whole black/white thing, actual color means nothing to me. weird.
 
ownedsubgal said:
i guess in this one way i am color blind, because i have never cared one way or the other about skin complexion. so while i get a charge from the whole black/white thing, actual color means nothing to me. weird.

Sounds like your distinction is racial, not ethnic.

Totally opposite for me. Foreign women get automatic points with it. Gotta catch 'em all, Pokemon style baby!
 
Color doesn't do anything for me either, except as a representation of different backgrounds, which gets us back to the whole reason of why interracial porn is hot. :)
 
ownedsubgal said:
i guess in this one way i am color blind, because i have never cared one way or the other about skin complexion. so while i get a charge from the whole black/white thing, actual color means nothing to me. weird.

Whereas I couldn't care a happy crap about someones race...

But the difference in skin color - rather than seperating each from the other - just hmmmmm.. Is visually piquant.

*grin* personally I think skin dye would be a cool thing ..
 
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