Wtf?

Svenskaflicka said:
I think we're being brainwashed.

I just can't make up my mind about their goal, though. Are they trying to get us to strive to get married, to have an expensive wedding, marry millionaires, act like morons in order to make a lot of money, strive to get accepted into the "Fine World"...

...or are they just trying to make us stupid, so that we will care more about the intrigues of Big Brother than the intrigues of the politic world?

They're just trying to make a buck. Without spending part of one.

There was a writers' and artists' strike in Hollywood at some time during the 90's - I think it was the 90's (weed worshippers, be aware that memory loss is not an empty threat) that shook up the entertainment industry in this country and probably weaned a lot of people away from the traditional way of watching TV. Imagine you're in the business of selling shows to networks, or selling network time to advertisers, and suddenly there are no writers or actors to create new shows.

I don't know whose stroke of brilliance it was to dispense with writers and actors and cut expenses to the bone by casting "real people" and pitting them against each other in a contest with some voyeuristc appeal. Like many vile and common things, it's been a huge success.

Someone in the entertainment press suggested that the idea dawned after the ratings success of the O.J. Simpson trial. (I watched it. Hated it, but watched it.)

Or maybe the original idea came from "Network;" it remains to be seen whether someone will sell a reality show inspired by the on-air assassination of Peter Finch's character in the film. They'd be guaranteed a ratings success with the trial.
 
shereads said:
Someone in the entertainment press suggested that the idea dawned after the ratings success of the O.J. Simpson trial.
ella, that makes perfect sense. Frightening. Now we await Saddam's trial.

Perdita
 
perdita said:
Now we await Saddam's trial.

Perdita

I have a feeling we won't be seeing unfettered coverage of that trial from our embedded (encourtroomed?) journalists. Too many sensitive issues in the not-so-distant past. Besides, how many people do you think would watch TV with subtitles?

:eek:
 
Lime said:
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...or are they just trying to make us stupid, so that we will care more about the intrigues of Big Brother than the intrigues of the politic world?
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Or are you just annoyed that they haven't gotten around to the bachelorette where the winner is the guy with the big dick?

Lime


Now THAT's what I call Plot Bunny!:)

A contest where 20 guys fuck a woman, and the one that she feels does te best job, wins!

Now, for the category - Group Sex or Humour & Satire?
 
Svenskaflicka said:
Now THAT's what I call Plot Bunny!:)

A contest where 20 guys fuck a woman, and the one that she feels does te best job, wins!

Now, for the category - Group Sex or Humour & Satire?

*gulp*
20 guys?! OMG!

And you think that can be Humour and Satire?

BDSM? :eek:
 
Erotic couplings? Erotic grouplings?

Come on, it couldn't be THAT bad, could it? Not if you spread them out so she does one new every day?
 
Wouldn't it be Toys and Masturbation if all she's doing is checking out which tool pleasures her more? :D
 
What if one of the guys is black? Interracial?
What if one of the guys is old? Mature?
What if one of the guys is one of them Christians, who refuses to have sex until he's properly wed? Non-Consent?

Novels & Novellas, with one chapter or each guy?

CHAIN STORY???

*rolls eyes madly*
 
Svenskaflicka said:
What if one of the guys is one of them Christians, who refuses to have sex until he's properly wed? Non-Consent?

ROFL. That was good!

This NC guy shouts and screams while its going on. Audio.

Finally they find out the 'woman' is actually a man, post-operation. Transsexuals and Crossdressers.
 
shereads said:
Reality erotica

Real life lovers, we bring'em on in pairs, trios, quartets, the more the merrier, see, then tell'em to have a little workout in front of a cheering and leering live audience. We hand pick the guests; scour the continent for people who can't keep their clothes on and like, enjoy a bit of exhi...oh, wait a minute, Jerry Springer's got it covered.
 
Back on topic

(url with pics included at end of post)

THE APPRENTICE, REALITY SERIES - Tim Goodman, SF Chronicle

If the world is going to continue getting reality series foisted on it -- and, yes, it is -- then you might as well give in and wait for something either special, or especially cheesy.

It may take a few episodes to find out whether NBC's "The Apprentice" meets either guideline, but the series from Mark Burnett ("Survivor"), hosted by mogul Donald Trump, certainly holds perverse promise, based on the 90- minute first episode.

The idea is simple: 16 people, from Ivy League MBAs to self-made entrepreneurs, vie to be hired for one year as a president in Trump's company, at a salary of $250,000 -- "the dream job of a lifetime," Burnett says, perhaps not thinking it completely through.

Anyway, with Burnett at the helm, production is top notch, and although it might be oversimplifying to call this "Survivor: Wall Street," there are certain parallels. And that's not a bad thing. Manhattan is an island, after all, and somebody gets "fired" every episode.

As in "Survivor," the key to success is the casting, which few people seem to do as well as Burnett. Here he's assembled eight men and eight women, all bright young things and all TV friendly, willing to put aside successful careers of their own for a chance to work for Trump and hold their tongues every time they see his ludicrous comb-over.

Then again, $250,000 a year is nothing to scoff at, even in Manhattan.

Trump, who's also executive producer (naturally), is not the smoothest operator, no matter how often he tries to look suave on TV. His talking parts at the beginning of the series clearly fall into the cheese category, but they also keep you watching. Then, here they come, the 16 latest reality show volunteers, all eager for either 15 minutes of fame or a quarter million in cold currency, whichever is ultimately more valuable.

Right away, you get that reality show staple and Burnett signature -- the characters. The conniving bitch. The cornpone. The fat guy. The weeper. Right on down the line you get glimpses of personality, each just juicy or intriguing enough to merit continued interest.

And, of course, almost all of the characters are hot and in shape. Nothing like smart, successful and bodacious for ratings.

But "Survivor" fanatics will tell you that the trick is to, over a period of time (in this case 15 episodes), show the contestants slowly turning into someone you didn't expect, or, even better, exactly the person you expected, only way worse.

There's certainly fodder here, above and beyond the Donald flying over Manhattan in his helicopter, keeping an eye on the action like some updated version of Mr. Roarke on "Fantasy Island."

There's Tammy Lee, the 36-year-old take-no-prisoners type, who walks in nasty and confrontational and stays that way. Or how about 27-year-old Nick Warnock, a hard-charging Xerox salesman whose salary is based entirely on commission and who has an immediate disdain for well-bred MBA types?

It's all primed for conflict, of course. There are loads of potential reality show time bombs or underdog stories. Bowie Hogg (pronounced boo-ee) is 25 and hails from Texas. His name says it all. There's Omarosa Manigaul- Stallworth, 29, a former "political appointee in the Clinton-Gore White House" and now a political consultant who, in her spare time, when not working toward her doctorate, trains other women in how to win beauty pageants.

You think Trump had a hand in the casting?

If there is any red flag here, it's that the women, divided into a separate team by Trump for a gender battle, all seem to be picked because they're from the "Ally McBeal" school of professional dressing. Most show up in short skirts or midriff-baring tops. Then, during the side interviews, they are often featured wearing less.

Stereotypes are not aided in the first episode's competitive challenge. The idea is, Trump sends both groups out to complete a task. Successful teams return to their Trump Tower suites and get a reward. Losers show up in Trump's boardroom, with one of them being "fired" from the show.

The first task entails meeting the Donald on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange before the opening bell, only to be told their job is to head out and sell lemonade. Each team gets $250 seed money. Whichever team makes more money by 7:30 p.m. wins, period.

Ah, capitalism caught on camera. It's a beautiful thing.

Anyway, the women are woefully disorganized, they turn on each other and eventually -- in a prime-time gambit sure to set back feminism or curl the hairs of every female executive with her head butting against the glass ceiling -- resort to selling the lemonade with their wily feminine charms.

Sex sells, indeed.

And yet, this is not a PBS documentary on suffrage. NBC wants you to be hooked by such antics and return next week. And why wouldn't you? Trump gives a very rare tour of his apartment and confides that mostly presidents and kings get that privilege. There's more gold in that "apartment" than in South Africa. And yet, the sheer tackiness of the interior design makes enduring it almost worth it.

The promise that Trump will be Trump is fulfilled on "The Apprentice" -- he is funny bossing these 16 people around. And there are worse things on television than watching a guy with two advanced degrees -- an M.D. and an MBA -- make a complete ass of himself trying to sell lemonade to tourists.

Apprenticide
 
shereads said:
Reality erotica
Believe me, it will be here sooner than we might think.

Ten wannabe pornstars.
Marooned on a tropical island.
Without food.
Or clothes.
Daily summary on prime time.
Live coverage on webcams.
Penetration for food rations.
Money shots for increasing the price sum.
Kinkier stuff for bonus prizes.
Clothes? Hah!
The least horny guy & girl voted off the island every week.

Is there a Hustler channel? Mr Flyntstone must have thought about this already.

edited due to sucky splligneng
 
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Svenskaflicka said:
I think we're being brainwashed.

I just can't make up my mind about their goal, though. Are they trying to get us to strive to get married, to have an expensive wedding, marry millionaires, act like morons in order to make a lot of money, strive to get accepted into the "Fine World"...

...or are they just trying to make us stupid, so that we will care more about the intrigues of Big Brother than the intrigues of the politic world?

They are trying to make us willing to do anything in order to

1. Win a million dollars

and/or

2. Be on TV



or maybe they are not trying, we just *are*


how many of us dream of fame and fortune?
 
shereads said:


I don't know whose stroke of brilliance it was to dispense with writers and actors and cut expenses to the bone by casting "real people" and pitting them against each other in a contest with some voyeuristc appeal. Like many vile and common things, it's been a huge success.


Reality TV started with MTVs "The Real World"

Network exects claim that as a fledgling network they just didn't have the funds to pay actors and writers but they wanted to have a sort of soap opera type show- so some young thing came up with the great 'outside the box' idea of puting 7 strangers in a house so they could capture every moment of it on film.

At first, it was extremely boring- nothing was happening (watch some of the first Real World Episodes) somehow, I guess they stepped in and started creating conflicts. Also, I think originally sex in the house was against the rules- but now its' practically expected that everybody in the house will eventually get it on with everybody else.

During the second season when nothing was happening, one of the 'characters' broke the so called 'third wall' by dating the (very cute) camera guy. In my oppinion they should have been happy that something interesting was finally happening, but I think the guy ended up getting fired. In any event- I believe that they both got into trouble.

Eventually CBS or somebody caught on. Actually, I think PBS started doing it first with documentary style reality shows like '1900 House' and 'Frontier Famillies' When the networks got ahold of the idea, we got Big Brother and Survivor, spawning a 'Reality TV' boom that knocked the newly forming Game Show boom (Who Wants to be a Millionair, Weakest Link) right down on it's ass.

Naturally, a good thing must be used up and squeezed out until we absolutley hate it and never ever want to see another reality show as long as we live.

OUr kids are really gonna think we were lame....
 
Svenskaflicka said:
Now THAT's what I call Plot Bunny!:)

A contest where 20 guys fuck a woman, and the one that she feels does te best job, wins!

Now, for the category - Group Sex or Humour & Satire?


You might be spending to much time on literotica if...

you have begun dividing all of life up into lit categories:D
 
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perdita said:
Hola, Lewd. Thanks for the introduction. I love lewdness, but it has to be real and not rude.

regards, Perdita :cool:

p.s. I am one of maybe three people in the states who did not watch one minute of the O.J. trial either.

Edited to change lewdity to lewdness; I was at work.

Hi, Dita.
Then, besides you and me, there must be only one person who never watched the OJ trial. I have never watched any reality episodes except for seeing some promos and once in a while I see a few minures of one or another. On another thread, I said something about women being attracted to money. What do you think now?
 
"I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore."

Anyone remember that beautiful scene from Network? The whole city bowing to the will of their deranged TV guru and throwing their TV sets out the window?

That's when the network knew he had outlived his usefulness...Maybe Trump will be the one assassinated on camera.

:D
 
sweetnpetite said:
They are trying to make us willing to do anything in order to

1. Win a million dollars

and/or

2. Be on TV



or maybe they are not trying, we just *are*


how many of us dream of fame and fortune?


Jerry springer, Geraldo etc. have no problems getting people to go on thier show and shamelessly admit things about themselves that most sane people wouldn't want ANYONE knowing about them. There isn't even a money incentive for most of these folks, they just want to be on TV.

In a culture that has kids seeing more tv weekly than sunshine I don't think it's too hard to see why it seems everyone wants to be on tv. Of course they play to the lowest common denominator and their guests tend to be at or below the lowest common denominator, but some people are shameless when it comes to getting their fifteen minutes of fame.

-Colly
 
I don't watch any of these shows, but I've caught climpses of a few. (Although I seem to know awfully much about the Swedish Survivor - Robinson- without ever actually turning on the TV. Damn tabloids).

After seeing glimpses of the Swedish vs American version, I've come to the conclusion that Swedes don't do superficial dating scenarios as well as Americans. *ducks* Ok, so the people on some of these shows appear to be total bimbo's, but at least the Americans appear more genuine than the Swedes. The Swedes look even more uptight and fake...
 
There's a Swedish version of "Joe Millionaire" now. I haven't seen anymore than the commercials for it, but the guy playing the milionaire sounds fake and uptight.


I wonder, does that make the women think he's an actor or a real millionaire?
 
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