you are not straight. ..

[Si326]

Ok im bi but equally like cock and pussy . At the end of the day you are who you are and what oeople enjoy is upto them . After all isnt sex ment to be fun and enjoyed weather its straight bi or anything else

 

[stickygirl]

Ok im bi but equally like cock and pussy . At the end of the day you are who you are and what oeople enjoy is upto them . After all isnt sex ment to be fun and enjoyed weather its straight bi or anything else

Totally! But don't forget that you are only able to enjoy you bisexuality because of the hard work and suffering of people in the not-so-distant past. There are still plenty of countries round the world where your sexual orientation would be treated as a crime. So, to deny your sexuality by saying 'I'm straight but I like cock' as a few people do here, is a kinda passive aggressive stance against gay people,like "sure I like cock but no way I want to be considered gay" Well thanks a lot buddy for hiding behind a straight facade, accepting the privilege of sexual freedom but running away from supporting its existence.
( not aimed at you btw )

 

[larrycando]

... if you get aroused by the thought of doing anything sexual with the same sex. Just because youve never acted out those thoughts does not mean you are totally straight. Face facts and deal with your sexuality. Indulge and have fun. But quit calling yourselves straight.

Most men have had some early MM play in their life. Did you miss out on something?

 

[coati]

Without wishing to put words into a mouth, I thought there was a more important point that the OP has missed, because the continual "I love cock but I'm straight" posts have an implied homophobia. What is so wrong with being gay or bi that you have to pretend that you are something you're obviously not?

This is so true about implied homophobia. I see this all the time on Lit, "I'm totally straight, but..." A lot of guys want to run away immediately after being sexual with another guy, or just engage in faceless glory-hole sex, often because they still have this contempt for homosexual activity or see it as a sin.

In America, you see the results of politicians and preachers who try to deny their own sexuality while publicly advocating for restricting sex to marriage between one man on one woman, and then get caught because they are driven to pursue their own actual urges secretly.

Some people define "straight" as being hetero-romantic, as if sex always has to be associated with romantic attachment. If a guy masturbates, does that mean he is going to send himself flowers or a Valentine card?

Guys really get hung up on claiming to be straight, but I suggest they try thinking about it a little differently. Having bisexual urges but claiming you are straight is insulting to gay and bi people, and it reveals that you are at least somewhat ashamed of your sexuality. You don't have to out yourself as being bi, but your social status will not fall to pieces if you drop all this talk about how straight you are.

Besides, what is so great about being rigid? If more men had the courage to accept the full spectrum of their sexuality, I think the world would be a more peaceful place.

 

[J1biboi]

This is so true about implied homophobia. I see this all the time on Lit, "I'm totally straight, but..." A lot of guys want to run away immediately after being sexual with another guy, or just engage in faceless glory-hole sex, often because they still have this contempt for homosexual activity or see it as a sin.

In America, you see the results of politicians and preachers who try to deny their own sexuality while publicly advocating for restricting sex to marriage between one man on one woman, and then get caught because they are driven to pursue their own actual urges secretly.

Some people define "straight" as being hetero-romantic, as if sex always has to be associated with romantic attachment. If a guy masturbates, does that mean he is going to send himself flowers or a Valentine card?

Guys really get hung up on claiming to be straight, but I suggest they try thinking about it a little differently. Having bisexual urges but claiming you are straight is insulting to gay and bi people, and it reveals that you are at least somewhat ashamed of your sexuality. You don't have to out yourself as being bi, but your social status will not fall to pieces if you drop all this talk about how straight you are.

Besides, what is so great about being rigid? If more men had the courage to accept the full spectrum of their sexuality, I think the world would be a more peaceful place.

My feelings exactly. I can't understand why someone would have trouble admitting to their self that they are bisexual. I have thought of myself as bisexual ever since I knew there was such a thing, and never had a problem with it. I don't go around carrying a sign advertising it, but I'm not afraid of the way I feel.

 

[Iwantitnowpleas]

I just consider myself to be completely fucked up. I would love nothing more than to dress really sexy and fuck my wife like crazy. I also like the idea of being tarted up while sucking and fucking a guy.

 

[pcarp]

But at the end of the day, what someone else is/does/says/feels or acts upon in none of any of your fucking business. Why don't you worry about your own issues rather than sticking your noses into what other people are doing?

Oh, and Stickygirl, Bruce/Caitlan Jenner identifies as a woman, but his DNA says he is a man. His sexuality comes from somewhere else, but genetically, HE is a guy. What he does with his body, and how he identifies is none of either of our business.

 

[TangleLeg]

I find this post, the OP anyway, both funny and kinda sad. It's like, "Hey, don't box me in, but here, you have to fit in my box because my opinion says so."

On the other hand, I'm someone who was initially drawn to my own bisexuality, (or maybe "bicuriosity" might fit better since I have yet to act on my same sex desires,) through one of the "straight guys who love cock," threads as well as TomBoners amazing bisexual pics thread. I looked it over and found the idea of sucking a cock really turning me on, and started looking inward at that reality. In the process I had to admit to myself that I am at the very least, interested in and curious about giving a man sexual pleasure. I don't give one flying fuck about romance with a man, I just like the idea of sucking a cock and when the opportunity is right, I will.

Ultimately I told myself that I am bisexual on some level. How that plays out is my business, and yes, I am therefore grateful that so many before me have broken the social stigma down until the environment is less threatening.

the question that comes to my mind is, why is it so hard to accept that different people are on a different place in their journey toward that self realization. For a culture that screams "tolerance," I find the actual tolerance is often lacking.

I mean, think about it in simple terms...because of the open mindedness of this site, my own mind opened up further. Another supporter of the rights that have so long been denied has been added to the ranks, and someday, at least one guy is going to get a damned fine blow job out of the deal.

Why so much hate for a different point of view? I don't get it. It screams hypocrisy.

 

[Bones111]

I have been open about my homosexuality here for the few weeks I have been a member. It really has been tough at times to get someone to pm me or play with me online somewhere else. I wonder if I would have more takers if I said I was bi or curious?

 

[mtsnowrider]

I find this post, the OP anyway, both funny and kinda sad. It's like, "Hey, don't box me in, but here, you have to fit in my box because my opinion says so."

On the other hand, I'm someone who was initially drawn to my own bisexuality, (or maybe "bicuriosity" might fit better since I have yet to act on my same sex desires,) through one of the "straight guys who love cock," threads as well as TomBoners amazing bisexual pics thread. I looked it over and found the idea of sucking a cock really turning me on, and started looking inward at that reality. In the process I had to admit to myself that I am at the very least, interested in and curious about giving a man sexual pleasure. I don't give one flying fuck about romance with a man, I just like the idea of sucking a cock and when the opportunity is right, I will.

Ultimately I told myself that I am bisexual on some level. How that plays out is my business, and yes, I am therefore grateful that so many before me have broken the social stigma down until the environment is less threatening.

the question that comes to my mind is, why is it so hard to accept that different people are on a different place in their journey toward that self realization. For a culture that screams "tolerance," I find the actual tolerance is often lacking.

I mean, think about it in simple terms...because of the open mindedness of this site, my own mind opened up further. Another supporter of the rights that have so long been denied has been added to the ranks, and someday, at least one guy is going to get a damned fine blow job out of the deal.

Why so much hate for a different point of view? I don't get it. It screams hypocrisy.

Tolerance might be the ideal but it's hardly the reality of 2015 America. Listening to the rhetoric of the Republicans seeking the nomination on topics such as immigrants, same sex marriage, minorities, etc and the enthusiasm of their supporters gives you some sense of the level of intolerance infecting a vocal segment of the population

 

[TangleLeg]

Tolerance might be the ideal but it's hardly the reality of 2015 America. Listening to the rhetoric of the Republicans seeking the nomination on topics such as immigrants, same sex marriage, minorities, etc and the enthusiasm of their supporters gives you some sense of the level of intolerance infecting a vocal segment of the population

I tend to agree with you, but I'm not clear on how that's relevant to the point I made. If I understood you correctly, you're saying that other elements of American culture and society are intolerant too, which leaves me thinking that you actually agree with me but are using your point as justification for the apparent intolerance that I questioned in the first place.

I may or may not be dizzy after writing that.

I don't see how intolerance justifies intolerance, when what most of us are asking for is tolerance.

 

[MoleskineScribbler]

Life is just too fucking short! Enjoy it all.

 

[haurni]

Oh, and Stickygirl, Bruce/Caitlan Jenner identifies as a woman, but his DNA says he is a man. His sexuality comes from somewhere else, but genetically, HE is a guy. What he does with his body, and how he identifies is none of either of our business.

Human gender, like sexual orientation, occurs on a spectrum. Many people are neither exclusively heterosexual nor exclusively homosexual. External genitalia do not always conform to chromosomes, and even chromosomes are not always 100% male or female. The construction of the brain - which includes one's personal sense of gender - is governed by a myriad of factors that are neither fully known nor understood, and so does not always match up with other things that we think of as indicators of gender. Just as we accept (and you seem to understand) that people are not necessarily sexually attracted to the people we think they should be attracted to based on what's between their legs (i.e. men to women, women to men), so also we have come to accept that gender is at least in part socially constructed and that one's internal gender may not match what appears on the outside. Further, we do people the courtesy of assuming that they have a better sense of their own gender than anyone outside them does and, if we are polite, we also do them the courtesy of referring to them as they wish to be known. How Caitlyn presents herself to the world is our business insofar as we need to acknowledge how she identifies, and she identifies as a woman. Full stop.

I hope you are aware enough not to promote, in this forum, outdated ideas such as all gay men are child molesters, bisexuals do not exist, and lesbians only need a good fuck to stop being lesbians. Please educate yourself on trans issues as well.

If you refer to Caitlyn by her former name, despite all the publicity her story has generated, then you shouldn't be posting in LGBT

 

[stickygirl]

But at the end of the day, what someone else is/does/says/feels or acts upon in none of any of your fucking business. Why don't you worry about your own issues rather than sticking your noses into what other people are doing?

Oh, and Stickygirl, Bruce/Caitlan Jenner identifies as a woman, but his DNA says he is a man. His sexuality comes from somewhere else, but genetically, HE is a guy. What he does with his body, and how he identifies is none of either of our business.

You've just contradicted yourself completely: you've just made it your business by denying she's a woman. Please don't attempt to patronise me with your lack of knowledge. I don't give a running fuck what you think ( because you are welcome to your ignorance - it's a free world ) but don't fucking lecture me with the science of stupid.

Genetics, yea sure, and science is discovering more and women have both XX and XY genes in their bodies
Your objection is plain and simple: she used to have a penis and that, as far as your closed mind goes, is that. No debate open for you huh?

 

[pcarp]

Wow, such a potty mouth. So, when you are incapable of an intelligent conversation you result to name calling and curse words?

and science is discovering more and women have both

Exactly what does that mean? Take a deep breath and try english please.

And I will stick by my opinion that what Bruce/Caitlan Jenner choses to do with his/her body, choses to identify as and sleep with is none of anyone on this forums business. Just as the OP criticized bi-people for calling themselves straight, what they call themselves are identify as is none of his business.

And yes, I believe that if I modify my Ford truck so I can drop a Chevrolet engine and computer into it, it is still a Ford truck. It may be a Ford with a Chevy engine, but it is still a Ford. Sorry, and all your "f" words won't convince me otherwise. Maybe if you were capable of intelligent conversation I might listen to and understand your argument but you have proven that you have are capable of nothing other than insults.

 

[mtsnowrider]

I tend to agree with you, but I'm not clear on how that's relevant to the point I made. If I understood you correctly, you're saying that other elements of American culture and society are intolerant too, which leaves me thinking that you actually agree with me but are using your point as justification for the apparent intolerance that I questioned in the first place.

I may or may not be dizzy after writing that.

I don't see how intolerance justifies intolerance, when what most of us are asking for is tolerance.

I do agree with you. I'm trying to say that expecting tolerance of differences in any area is increasingly unrealistic as Americans seem to be more strongly and openly critical and fearful of the "other". I think some of the posts in this thread support that conclusion

 

[haurni]

Genetics, yea sure, and science is discovering more and women have both XX and XY genes in their bodies

Exactly what does that mean? Take a deep breath and try english please.

Let me help you out here:

"Genetics, yea sure, and science is discovering more [things about genetics] and [one of those things, which is particularly relevant to discussions about sex and gender, is that] women have both XX and XY genes in their bodies"
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Basically, body parts and even genes aren't infallible markers of 'biological sex' (whatever that is), which is itself is not 100% binary. In other words, just because it may look superficially like what you think a duck is supposed to look like doesn't always mean that it's always (or entirely) a duck. Furthermore, 'gender identity' is not always related to 'biological sex'.

And I will stick by my opinion that what Bruce/Caitlan Jenner choses to do with his/her body, choses to identify as and sleep with is none of anyone on this forums business. Just as the OP criticized bi-people for calling themselves straight, what they call themselves are identify as is none of his business.

And yes, I believe that if I modify my Ford truck so I can drop a Chevrolet engine and computer into it, it is still a Ford truck. It may be a Ford with a Chevy engine, but it is still a Ford. Sorry, and all your "f" words won't convince me otherwise. Maybe if you were capable of intelligent conversation I might listen to and understand your argument but you have proven that you have are capable of nothing other than insults.

People are not trucks, and to treat the former as the latter is to demonstrate ignorance of current social conventions about transgender people and to (literally) dehumanize them. Just so you know, the generally accepted thing to do nowadays is to acknowledge that the gender identity of people is what they themselves announce it to be, and to not do so is considered insensitive at the very least. Now, you are free to be rude if you like and to contravene social codes of politeness and civility - you can call Caitlyn (not 'Caitlan') Bruce, and you can call gays faggots, and you can refer to people of African ancestry using the n-word - but then you can (and should) expect people to respond to you in kind.

 

[4yourpleasureiam]

I thought we all started out as female in he womb and at sometime while we wait around to be born some of us grow penises and others keep their vaginas.

Ignorant as I am I see so much similarities in a the clitoris and penis that I have to wonder. A man can run his fingers down beside his hidden cock shaft and feel where his vagina would be.

What is so hard to believe that somewhere in the development things just got mixed up and we grew the wrong parts. Our minds should define us not our physical image. Pretty, ugly handsome gross are all in the mind. why cant someone be born Female but with a penis and vice versa. Imagine living with that all your life. Now finally medical science may help some people be what they need to be. We need to hope society can accept hat help

 

[2wayroad]

I'm going to agree with the OP to a point. I am not straight. Before I began my journey of discovery I told myself I was. Now I know I'm somewhat "bent".

Sex is about pleasures of the body and mind. If you are put off or offended by same sex pleasures, then turn away and pursue that which pleasures you rather than condemn what which you abhor. As a matter of fact that is my advice for all aspects of life. Too many people look for any way possible to find offense towards themselves or others. They should be pursuing happiness for themselves instead.

There's an old saying. "Mind your own business and you'll be busy all the time"

 

[TangleLeg]

I do agree with you. I'm trying to say that expecting tolerance of differences in any area is increasingly unrealistic as Americans seem to be more strongly and openly critical and fearful of the "other". I think some of the posts in this thread support that conclusion

Then I'll have to simply agree, on all counts.

Sad but true.

I appreciate your perspective.