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You degenerates thought that KILLING BABIES was a winning issue. Well, guess what

ll74 said:
Pro choice measures won in 7 out of 10 states.
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Read the article:

"At some level this is unsurprising. Since Dobbs there has been little backlash against pro-life elected officials. In fact, every pro-life Governor who signed a strong pro-life law has been re-elected. Some commentators have argued that the state ballot questions allowed people to “split their ticket.” They could vote to keep abortion legal in their state while prioritizing other issues when voting for president. While there might be some truth to this, it also true that the Democratic Party’s extreme position on abortion is out of step with public opinion. Indeed, Harris’s opposition to conscience rights and support for taxpayer funding for abortion may well have done her more harm than good with swing voters."
 
Rightguide said:
Read the article:

"At some level this is unsurprising. Since Dobbs there has been little backlash against pro-life elected officials. In fact, every pro-life Governor who signed a strong pro-life law has been re-elected. Some commentators have argued that the state ballot questions allowed people to “split their ticket.” They could vote to keep abortion legal in their state while prioritizing other issues when voting for president. While there might be some truth to this, it also true that the Democratic Party’s extreme position on abortion is out of step with public opinion. Indeed, Harris’s opposition to conscience rights and support for taxpayer funding for abortion may well have done her more harm than good with swing voters."
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I did.

Abortion won as an issue. I could give a shit whether that translated to Harris' performance at this point.
 
ll74 said:
I did.

Abortion won as an issue. I could give a shit whether that translated to Harris' performance at this point.
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Not to the extent you believe it did. Oh, and the only position I hold on this issue is that it is a state issue.
 
Rightguide said:
Not to the extent you believe it did. Oh, and the only position I hold on this issue is that it is a state issue.
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It won in 70% of the states. No belief needed.

Oh..and the only position I hold on the issue is that terminating a pregnancy should not be restricted by the government at all.
 
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Politruk said:
Why should it be a state issue?
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Because as the SCOTUS affirmed the right is not contemplated in the text of the Constitution such a right could be left to the design of the states under the 9th and 10th Amendments.




 
Saint_Ann said:
I kill plants all the time. They weren't born. Killing a pregnant woman is a double homicide. Life begins at conception. What else ya got? :)
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Lol....of course

Killing a pregnant woman is taking away a woman's choice to give birth to a child.

Your kidney is alive

The thing is, you don't have to change terminology and make up shit that isn't true to support your position.

Simply say - you don't believe a woman should be able to terminate her pregnancy.
 
ll74 said:
Lol....of course

Killing a pregnant woman is taking away a woman's choice to give birth to a child.

Your kidney is alive

The thing is, you don't have to change terminology and make up shit that isn't true to support your position.

Simply say - you don't believe a woman should be able to terminate her pregnancy.
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It's only homicide if it's alive. Not my definition. I believe it is ending a human life. The current definition of when life begins is incorrect. The only variable is how society justifies allowing it to continue. :)
 
Saint_Ann said:
It's only homicide if it's alive.
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It's homicide in certain states for whatever reasons they defined it. Medically, it's not.

Saint_Ann said:
Not my definition. I believe it is ending a human life. The current definition of when life begins is incorrect. The only variable is how society justifies allowing it to continue. :)
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You can believe whatever you want. I rely on the medical professionals' definitions. Before birth, it's a fetus, not a baby. Death requires birth. Prior to birth it's considered termination of pregnancy.

In the end, you don't want a woman to be able to terminate her pregnancy. You want it to be illegal to do so. I want a woman to have access to the care she wants and/or needs no matter what it is.
 
ll74 said:
It's homicide in certain states for whatever reasons they defined it. Medically, it's not.


You can believe whatever you want. I rely on the medical professionals' definitions. Before birth, it's a fetus, not a baby. Death requires birth. Prior to birth it's considered termination of pregnancy.

In the end, you don't want a woman to be able to terminate her pregnancy. You want it to be illegal to do so. I want a woman to have access to the care she wants and/or needs no matter what it is.
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Abortion isn't going away. The unborn can't vote. :)
 
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