H1N1 Vaccine

[Mac98]

Hey everyone. I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but I'm curious to know as to how many people are planning on getting vaccinated for the H1N1 virus.

As for me, I'm against the whole vaccination for the simple reason that I don't trust the government enough to inject me with a "dead" virus.

 

[cromsgirl]

leaning towards yes

I don't have a problem with vaccines, but I am not in a high risk category and I've been sick since it moved into town, so I probably don't need to be vaccinated. I will wait until there aren't shortages anymore.

 

[Mac98]

Wait, you already got H1N1 before? Or was it another flu?

Cuz if you've been infected before, you're immune to it automatically (hence, a vaccine is pointless)

 

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[bwallard]

So Mac!

You wouldn't trust the government, but who would you trust to give you a vaccination?

 

[sircumvent]

I took the vaccination about a month ago and I haven't grown an extra toe or had convulsions and to top it off I haven't contracted the Hini flu.

It is the same process as the seasonal flu vaccine, so if you have taken that one in the past and had no ill effects you shouldn't have any from the Hini flu shot.

 

[coastal-boy]

Whole family got it at the beginning of October other than the 4 month old (reason we all got it). Good thing...the schools around here have been decimated with 40-60% out with it depending on the week. My boy will have his second dose as soon as we can get more in the county. There is absolutely none to be had.

H1N1 nasal...which is the only vaccine I've heard of in this state is a live virus.

 

[Quoll]

Interesting article.

 

[subwannabe]

I really don't understand all of these negative attitudes toward this particular shot unless you have a negative attitude toward all shots. They give out flu shots every year. They estimate which 3 flus will be the most prevalent and then they make a vaccination with a dead virus of those strains. They have been doing this for decades. The H1N1 virus is exactly the same as the flu shots made every other year, only with this flu strain instead of whichever flu strains they usually do. If they had discovered this flu strain earlier it would have been in the regular seasonal flu vaccine instead of a seperate shot. Unless you have an allergy to eggs you are not going to have a reaction to this vaccine. Some of the bad stories going around are bad reactions to a flu shot in like the 1960's when they did it differently. Some of the bad stories are just a crock of shit. Some of the bad stories are just coincidences which are bound to happen. Like someone getting a shot and then coming down with the flu itself. The reason that happened was because the person already had been exposed to the swine flu before the shot. Another young girl just died immediately after receiving the cervical cancer vaccine. It was established that the vaccine had nothing to do with her death, she had a bad heart! And this thing about not trusting the government is a crock of shit too. Almost all of the vaccines are actually made in different countries and then the US or medical providers buy them and distribute them. In this case the government wanted the shots to be "free" so they purchased them for the population. The vaccine itself is already been paid for but the government didn't have a damn thing to do with making it.

 

[infinity706]

I'm not going to bother because I already caught it a few weeks ago.

 

[simplegirl]

If medical care bursting at the seams in virtually every country, what on earth would the government have to gain by actually making people ill with the vaccine?

Influenza vaccines aren't new technology, although much has been learned through the years to make it safer and more effective.

Nothing is without risk, but it's a calculated risk. You have more risk of having negative effects from contracting the H1N1 than you have in getting the vaccine.

 

[Mac98]

So Mac!

You wouldn't trust the government, but who would you trust to give you a vaccination?

The only people I would trust with it would be a Doctor I'm close to who knows all there is to know about. If I were smart or if I knew more ABOUT vaccines and whatnot, I'd research it myself. But I have not the savoir or the right instruments to do so .

and to subwannabe, I haven't trusted ANY flu shots since I'm 11. We had somewhat manditory shots given at school when I was 9 (we still had the right to say no, though it usually wasn't the case) and it brought on a butt load of health complications afterwards. I have no definitive proof it was from the shots, though many of my friends who got the same shot also had health complications following it (one of my friends became diabetic very shortly after and his own doctor said there is a possibility it had to do with the shots).

Besides, the H1N1 vaccine has not been fully tested or studied. There are a lot of unanswered questions about it, just like growth hormones they offer yound adolescents. I don't expect an immediate reaction to it (if there's any at all, I admit there is a possibility that there's zero danger), I expect there to be reactions in the next 10 to 50 years.

Furthermore, I can understand if you have your pregnant, or working in that environment, or even if you have young kids that you'd want to get the shot. If I were in that situation, then of course I'd get it too. But I think the H1N1 virus isn't nearly as dangerous as they make it out to be. It's as present, that's for sure. Many people I know have contracted it, but I know for a fact that there's a very low fatality risk. It's usually people who are already weakened by another ailment or illness that are more at risk. I think getting a vaccination that you know hasn't been thoroughly tested (due to lack of time, I presume) and that, for some reason, is in high demand (more than can be given)... is somewhat irresponsible (though I know you all might say I'm not responsible for risking my life).

But if all it's for is to spare me a 7 day virus that seems to be quite severe, I'll take my chances. I've coughed up a lung with bad lung colds before, I hold a record in a clinic in my hometown for one of the worst cases of strepthroat and I've had many a-stomach viruses... H1N1 may be severe, but I've faced a lot of nasty viruses before... I'm sure I'll pull through in the end.

 

[Eilan]

I heard that Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck were telling their listeners/viewers not to get the shot, so perhaps I should get two!

We're not anti-vaxxers, but we've never done regular flu shots in our household. We haven't decided yet, though we're leaning toward probably getting them for the kids.

H1N1 nasal...which is the only vaccine I've heard of in this state is a live virus.

There's no alternative for people with compromised immune systems? A good friend of mine gets regular flu and pneumonia shots because she's had her spleen removed and her immune system isn't as strong as it should be. She's been told that she should never receive live-virus vaccines.

 

[subwannabe]

The H1N1 HAS been tested and studied. First of all, there have been literally millions of shots given already with no concerns. Second of all, it is the exact same flu shot given every single year for decades, just with a different dead flu strain in it. This is the very same procedure used year after year after year to make flu shots. They get a dead version of whatever flu strains are circulating and make a flu shot out of it. Every year they may have new flu strains which are put in the seasonal flu shot. The only reason that this shot is a different shot than the regular seasonal flu shot is because it was detected too late to put it in the regular seasonal flu shot. Next year, if swine flu is still around, it will be part of the regular seasonal flu shot and not a seperate shot. And, the goverment doesn't have anything to do with the shot other than the fact that they purchased it from the companies that make it so our citizens get can vaccinated.

 

[TypicalDeviant]

Anti-vaxxers... oh man... if I EVER heard of a problem that would take care of itself, it's them.

 

[coastal-boy]

There's no alternative for people with compromised immune systems? A good friend of mine gets regular flu and pneumonia shots because she's had her spleen removed and her immune system isn't as strong as it should be. She's been told that she should never receive live-virus vaccines.

Yes...at least it is supposed to be out there somewhere. I simply said I haven't heard of it anywhere in my state and I have been keeping pretty close tabs on it because I have a newborn. Last week our local clinic got 300 live doses and over 800 showed up. They said they simply do not know when they will get the next batch, just keep calling the hotline. By the time they do, many people will have had it. I feel fortunate that we got it when we did. I only need to have my school-aged child get his second dose because their doses are actually 1/2-doses as I understand it.

But you are exactly right, compromised immune systems should never take a live dose

 

[SweetErika]

Many people I know have contracted it, but I know for a fact that there's a very low fatality risk. It's usually people who are already weakened by another ailment or illness that are more at risk.

But if all it's for is to spare me a 7 day virus that seems to be quite severe, I'll take my chances. I've coughed up a lung with bad lung colds before, I hold a record in a clinic in my hometown for one of the worst cases of strepthroat and I've had many a-stomach viruses... H1N1 may be severe, but I've faced a lot of nasty viruses before... I'm sure I'll pull through in the end.

Were the people you know actually lab tested for H1N1, or were they simply feared/presumed to have it? The testing takes about a week, and it's not done as a matter of course, so many people think they have it (or know people who do) when the reality is they just have the regular flu.

The concern with H1N1 is there's a high complication and fatality rate in young, often quite healthy people. That, and it can do a lot of damage and kill very quickly. It's not like the seasonal flu that's usually most problematic for the old, sick and very young, and simply a pain for everyone else who gets it.

I heard that Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck were telling their listeners/viewers not to get the shot, so perhaps I should get two!

Hopefully they're also telling their listeners to sequester themselves at the first sign of any flu-like symptoms. I don't have a problem with people not getting vaccinated if they're willing and able to do that, but most people seem more than happy to figure out how rules regarding public safety and consideration must not apply to them.

We're not anti-vaxxers, but we've never done regular flu shots in our household. We haven't decided yet, though we're leaning toward probably getting them for the kids.There's no alternative for people with compromised immune systems? A good friend of mine gets regular flu and pneumonia shots because she's had her spleen removed and her immune system isn't as strong as it should be. She's been told that she should never receive live-virus vaccines.

We're the same way. We wouldn't worry about being vaccinated so much if I didn't have such an elevated risk of dying from H1N1. Our kid would definitely get the vaccine unless there were good indications they shouldn't. And I don't believe in getting all of the recommended vaccinations on the typical schedule, either.

Coastal-boy, our county health department has had several vaccination clinics already, and told me they should have more H1N1 shots for at-risk populations next week. Some of our hospitals and such are also scheduling free shots now. It might take a bit longer to reach you guys, but I'm guessing they'll have enough for at least the most at-risk people in the next week or two.

 

[candyapplered]

I'm not getting one but I only work on the weekends and my coworkers don't come to work sick cause they know they will get the crap beat out of them for it. Other then that I stay at home with my baby and my husband is getting both flu shots to keep from bringing it home. Its just the flu there is nothing different with this one really just wash your hands constantly and take precautions.

 

[Kitty_Schrödinger]

http://www.childhoodshots.com/uploads/SwineFLuVaccineFactSheet.pdf

Not for me and not for mine.

 

[shewantsmore]

From what i have read and heard i dont think i would take it.so many people for and against the jab,its hard to deceide what to do

 

[Bandit58]

We have not had it yet. We will go and get it done within the next few weeks however, because Sir has a chronic illness and I'm His carer and I'd be no good to Him if I got ill.

We both had the regular flu vaccine before the winter months here in Australia and I only got a minor cold anyway.
Hopefully the H1N1 will be included in the next year's usual flu shot.

 

[Eilan]

Hopefully they're also telling their listeners to sequester themselves at the first sign of any flu-like symptoms. I don't have a problem with people not getting vaccinated if they're willing and able to do that, but most people seem more than happy to figure out how rules regarding public safety and consideration must not apply to them.

Somehow I doubt they're saying that, but I wouldn't know.

Even though we're in OH, we get a lot of our "local" news out of WV, and after a high-school student in WV died of complications of H1N1 a few weeks ago, people in his school district were clamoring for officials to close the schools. I know some districts have made that decision, and I'm not necessarily opposed to it in areas where there's lots of sickness, but I also know that many of these same parents who are wanting the schools closed would use the days off as an excuse to take their kids to the mall and be otherwise out and about, which defeats the purpose of closing the schools in the first place.

 

[Reba67]

I'm in an at risk population and I'm already immuno-compromised right now, so I went and got it. I wasn't going to until the panic died down, but my doctor sent me to a special high priority clinic so I wouldnt have to wait in line.

 

[PertPerth]

I'm His carer and I'd be no good to Him if I got ill.

I think this just about sums up my thinking. All I have is me - and two mortgages. I'm worth much more alive than dead....plus living (healthily) is rather lovely.

I also have insurance, car, house, health, cat...and I'm up-to date with all my jabs.
I see the cost/risk of NOT having it far greater than having it.

 

[KokopelliRises]

Not only did I vote yes--I've already had it. One of the small perks of being in a high-risk age group for this flu. I had a sore throat for a couple days afterward--but that's a normal side effect. It was my first time getting a vaccine nasally. Kinda weird actually.