190,000 corpses.

would you have said the same thing about measles? or polio? influenza? cancers? ebola? malaria?

Some of those took decades to develop. And some still only treat, rather than prevent or eradicate.

The Flu vaccine doesn't fully prevent the Flu, and some people get sick from the shot.


None of that changes the fact that when Momma says go, we're not going to be able to prevent it fully.
 
It is doubtful those with compromised immune systems can be vaccinated. As long as we have science denial, this virus will always be with us. It is not polio or smallpox and shouldn't be placed in that category. But what we can do, is mitigate the affects...limiting mortality to that of a standard flu. That is possible.
quite possible, unfortunately.

agreed, it's not in the same box as those two, but was trying to make a point at a more basic level of 'would he have suggested we didn't even try to find cures/treatment for those'.

mitigation is probably the best we can achieve. all except one of the vaccines on trial right now (according to a head boff) have shown effective in all primates to date. that's very good news.

Some of those took decades to develop. And some still only treat, rather than prevent or eradicate.

The Flu vaccine doesn't fully prevent the Flu, and some people get sick from the shot.


None of that changes the fact that when Momma says go, we're not going to be able to prevent it fully.
my point, exactly, as i stated. it's likely this is will, indeed, be endemic.

no doubt, one day, there'll be that one--or collections of 'ones'--that mutates so swiftly as to make vaccines ineffective, or travels so swiftly at such levels of fatality as to render your scenario more than a stephen king story. till then, we must do whatever we can to help eachother.
 
Nah, it's not ad hominem to call someone an idiot for saying other countries have been able to stop an airborne virus from "getting in." If you think that's why their stats are so much lower than ours, double moron.

Wow, that's some plan. Someone should tell that to the schools and colleges who've had to shut down after opening because of outbreaks and deaths. While you're at it, inform Trump that it's ok to hold giant rallies INDOORS like he used to. Also, tell the business community and the stock market to carry on as if there's no pandemic. Sound business strategy.

It's pretty simple. You came up with a percent for deaths per total population in the U.S. South Korea: Total deaths = 355/ Population 50.8 million = .0007; Germany 2,123/83 mill = .003. Pretty fucking simple how bad the U.S. is in comparison with everyone else.

Yeah, facts don't care about campaigns. That's why 200,000K dead is sinking Trump's campaign. It's a fact that COVID is the reason why he's in so much trouble. But you think #itsnotmyjob > out of control pandemic lol.


Wildly dishonest ascription and ad hom, doesn't get anymore solid than that!! :rolleyes:


If that were a fact it wouldn't be a global issue....lol you need to look up contain and control in the dictionary, I don't think you know what those words mean.



Not to panic over shit we can't control and to get the fuck back to living life.



More pathetic ad hom because you got nothing.

No YOU do the math, show your work...or this is all just more hot air.



The facts don't care about campaigns, you're just deflecting because you're incapable of holding (D)'s responsible for their colossal fuck ups, elitism and jackbooted thuggery.



You've literally been complaining in this thread along with most other lefties that he's not enough of one.....LOL

He's not, you don't have a SINGLE example of him acting like one.

Unlike what we've seen out of a number of (D) governors and mayors.



I never said the economy was doing great and things are just fantastic, why must you lie so much?

Oh yea it's because you can't actually refute what I'm saying, despite all the ad hom fallacies you toss around. :kiss::kiss:;)



Yea, that's why I'm doing so well in both areas you're desperate to send the government to crush me because "it's not fair!! Mixed male privilege wahhhh!!!" :D
 
Nah, it's not ad hominem to call someone an idiot for saying other countries have been able to stop an airborne virus from "getting in." If you think that's why their stats are so much lower than ours, double moron.


You gotta stop reading such insane shit into the opposite of what I post, it makes you look nuts.

Wow, that's some plan.

I know liberal ideas aren't always what you iron fisted types desperate for a god king to rule over you want to hear. But this is the USA, a liberal nation, as much as it absolutely ENRAGES you leftist. :D

Someone should tell that to the schools and colleges who've had to shut down after opening because of outbreaks and deaths.

Another micro-nugget of dust the (D)'s are trying to pretend is Mt.Everest. :rolleyes:

If they want to shut down, AWESOME!! Stay shut down as long as they want.

While you're at it, inform Trump that it's ok to hold giant rallies INDOORS like he used to.

Why? He can make his own decisions....I don't need or want to tell others what the fuck they should be doing, I'm not a leftist control freak like you. :D

Also, tell the business community and the stock market to carry on as if there's no pandemic.

We're already doing it...where the fuck have you been?

Amazon alone made me a fuckin' 1%'er this year :D

My little hobby bidnizz is totally blown out, almost entirely sold out because gardening was a gangbuster hobby this year.

Sold out right down to my personal supplies and specimen collections.

Sound business strategy.

Fuck load better than "Totalitarian lockdownz or else covid is gonna GET YA!!! But rioting is totally great progress!! Covid is only for racist!!" derp blue cities and states are self destructing on.

It's pretty simple. You came up with a percent for deaths per total population in the U.S. South Korea: Total deaths = 355/ Population 50.8 million = .0007; Germany 2,123/83 mill = .003. Pretty fucking simple how bad the U.S. is in comparison with everyone else.

Not where I'm at, if you got problems you might want to take it up with the (D)ipshit in charge of your metro/state public health policies.

The sooner you (D)'s figure out the USA is not a unitary state nor is it a mob rule democracy the better off you guys are going to be.

Yeah, facts don't care about campaigns. That's why 200,000K dead is sinking Trump's campaign. It's a fact that COVID is the reason why he's in so much trouble. But you think #itsnotmyjob > out of control pandemic lol.

Keep clinging to that dream LOL

The weak as fuck pandemic, is a state issue, that's a fact, most people who managed to make it past the 5th grade realize that.

Hell even you know it as you dishonestly screech about how it's all Orange Hitlers fault he didn't shit on the Constitution moar and just trample all over states rights like you wished he would.

Which is why it's not really sinking anything.

Unlike (D)'s support for rioting, rage mob rule and flaunting their elitism. They just can't stop fucking themselves there. :)
 
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^^^This mindset explains why you never got selected to attend the NCO academy.

#BrainpanDecay
#TBI
#SynapticFailures

Rob still making shit up and projecting....it's always projection with Rob.

I did quite well in BNCOC, not that you would know a fucking thing about that :D
 
Rob still making shit up and projecting....it's always projection with Rob.

I did quite well in BNCOC, not that you would know a fucking thing about that :D

Let's see. I'd love to discuss it with another man in private.
 
Rob still making shit up and projecting....it's always projection with Rob.

I did quite well in BNCOC, not that you would know a fucking thing about that :D

I'm sure your boots were always spitshined....that long semi-Korean tongue was put to good use at last

That's about the only marketable skill you picked up during your aborted military tenure, but you're good at giving Trump a virtual tongue bath each day.
 
I'm sure your boots were always spitshined....that long semi-Korean tongue was put to good use at last

That's about the only marketable skill you picked up during your aborted military tenure, but you're good at giving Trump a virtual tongue bath each day.

Dumbest shit you've said yet, "security contractor" is a very well paying gig for someone with tier 2 schools/experience. Bought a house in Santa Cruz with the tax free income that gig economy provided me.

What was your MOS again Rob?? Oh right you won't even go there.....:)

Oh, and boot shining stopped being a thing when I was E4 mafia, just before we invaded Iraq was the last time I shined anything other than my jump boots, which are still quite glassy.
 
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200,000 death count passed this morning. Will their votes count if they sent them in?
 
200,000 death count passed this morning. Will their votes count if they sent them in?

Have you written your own obituary?

All the cool kids are doing it. Won't be long one lunger.

Wear that mask, might give you a month or two. :D
 
trump and his administration appear to be hell-bent on ushering in the new dark ages--this time in america

deny science
decry science
dispute science
mock science
sack scientists
replace professional scientists with crackpots and those having no scientific backgrounds
cut scientific funding
divert funding into worthless rabbit holes that might benefit a certain, select few instead of the people it's designated to help

he wants to turn off the lights of truth, of education, because he loves the uneducated, the easily manipulated--all so he can retain power to squander on enriching himself and his associates whilst screwing the rest of america into the dust.

sow enough seeds of mistrust in those whose work it is to keep us safe as humanly possible from pollution, climate change effects, boldily ailments and, now, covid 19, and you have fields of weeds sprouting and spreading their breed of ignorance.
 
LMFAO!!!!! How fucking insane are you people??

You're blaming presidents for something they have no control and no legal responsibility for.

Why? Irrational communist fee fees.



Yea!! He's controlling the virus that's why it's disproportionately killing people of color!!! Racist-19 the Trumpvirus!!

LOL....what a bunch of truly deranged nut jobs.

Then you got Tigersman, who clearly can't stand liberals, supporting the party of neo-Maoism but claims not to be a communist. :rolleyes:

It's apparent Fescue has been watching nothing but Fox News again or he would know that his president told Bob Woodward on tape that he knew the coronavirus was deadly and he was not going to tell the public because he wanted to keep them calm. Trump had the opportunity to stop the coronavirus before it spread nationwide but he did nothing. Therefore the pandemic our Nation faces is on Trump's back, not the Dems or the Republicans, just on Trump.

Liberals don't concern me but Dictator wantabes do and that is what Trump is. It appears all the education you claim to have taught you little. I would not be surprise to find out you are a member of the white supremist, neo-nazis or the KKK.
 
It's apparent Fescue has been watching nothing but Fox News again or he would know that his president told Bob Woodward on tape that he knew the coronavirus was deadly and he was not going to tell the public because he wanted to keep them calm.

I knew that. And agree with what POTUS did.

Trump had the opportunity to stop the coronavirus before it spread nationwide but he did nothing.

No he didn't....he could not have stopped it, and with the clarity of hindsight it's nearly certain it was already here before anyone except maybe China even knew there was a problem.

And even if he did, he can't just shut the country down "because a virus is coming" and with the HoR shutting him and his efforts down.

Remember, Pelosi called him racist for the modest measures he did take and encouraged everyone to go out.

Therefore the pandemic our Nation faces is on Trump's back, not the Dems or the Republicans, just on Trump.

No, it's not, it's a global pandemic that nobody was going to stop....there was just management, prevention was not a real option.

Liberals don't concern me but Dictator wantabes do and that is what Trump is. It appears all the education you claim to have taught you little. I would not be surprise to find out you are a member of the white supremist, neo-nazis or the KKK.

Korean KKK member? LOL!!!!

Not beign a communist STAIN upon the USA such as yourself, doesn't make anyone ANYONE a white supremacist.
 
Good news. Trump's lazy current "herd mentality"/"do nothing but mock" policy on the pandemic means that 200,000 American deaths is small change. His policy has been costed out to mean it will be between 2 and 6 million deaths before the virus plays out. But as long as the stock market is robust . . .

And even if he loses election in November, he won't be replaced until January. So, a guaranteed 400,000 unnecessarily dead Americans (but maybe a robust stock market) in the best of political scenarios . . . unless he's somehow jerked out of there before then or put completely on ignore by those actually doing any work.
 
Good news. Trump's lazy current "herd mentality"/"do nothing but mock" policy on the pandemic means that 200,000 American deaths is small change. His policy has been costed out to mean it will be between 2 and 6 million deaths before the virus plays out. But as long as the stock market is robust . . .

And even if he loses election in November, he won't be replaced until January. So, a guaranteed 400,000 unnecessarily dead Americans (but maybe a robust stock market) in the best of political scenarios . . . unless he's somehow jerked out of there before then or put completely on ignore by those actually doing any work.

Where do you get the 2-6 million number from? The CDC has given an IFR if .25% to .6% for the last 6 months or so and as treatments get better those numbers will go down, even if COVID was allowed to spread unchecked it still wouldn’t infect every single last person.
 
Where do you get the 2-6 million number from? The CDC has given an IFR if .25% to .6% for the last 6 months or so and as treatments get better those numbers will go down, even if COVID was allowed to spread unchecked it still wouldn’t infect every single last person.

Rachel Maddow's show last night.

There is absolutely no reason to trust what the CDC has to say about anything until Trump is gone. He's taken it over with his killer lying. Don't be a fool. He doesn't give a shit whether you live or die. It's all about him--and he's proven to be a killler idiot even about how he accomplishes that.
 
Rachel Maddow's show last night.

There is absolutely no reason to trust what the CDC has to say about anything until Trump is gone. He's taken it over with his killer lying. Don't be a fool.

I think most other countries give COVID an IFR of less than 1% if I’m not mistaken, not saying that’s good given how contagious the virus is. With increased testing we’re even seeing many places that have CASE fatality rates less than 1% now.
 
I think most other countries give COVID an IFR of less than 1% if I’m not mistaken, not saying that’s good given how contagious the virus is. With increased testing we’re even seeing many places that have CASE fatality rates less than 1% now.

What in the hell does this have to do with Trump's "heard mentality" policy? He's not doing what any other country does.
 
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