$83.3 million reasons why?

[RobDownSouth]

EJ Carroll's lawyer has given notice to the court that she is reserving the right to seek formal bar association sanctions against Alina Habba for her blood libel claim of "conflict of interest" between herself and the judge.

The judge and Carroll's lawyer both worked at the same 1000-lawyer law firm right out of law school 30 years ago. They never met. This didn't stop Habba from making the claim, of course.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1752376607057285468

 

[RobDownSouth]

Welp, THAT certainly didn't take long! "Attorney" Alina Habba backs waaaay the hell off her "conflict of interest" charge against Carroll's lawyer, stating she was only "making inquiries" and has had them resolved to her satisfaction, and now that she has gotten the requisite shock 'n outrage headlines on Breitbart and Gateway Pundit, she withdraws the accusation. No harm, no foul, right? Right?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1752401119374966848

 

[dkovic77]

Your degree of ignorance is astounding!

You have a PhD in ignorance, you should know!

 

[dkovic77]

Here’s what you need to know about E. Jean Carroll, that was previously reported here on The Gateway Pundit. Most of these information were deemed “inadmissible” by the judge per John LeFevre:

• She couldn’t recall the date, month, season, or year the incident happened
• She never told anyone about it, despite being publicly obsessed with her own sexuality
• The dress she claims to have been wearing didn’t exist at the time
• Her description of the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman was inaccurate, making her sequence of events impossible
• Her lawsuit was bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein pal and Democrat (and Nikki Haley) mega-donor Reid Hoffman
• Democrats created a law (The Adult Survivors Act in 2022) to enable her lawsuit to proceed
• Her accusation is the exact plotline of an episode of Law & Order (one of her “favorite shows”)
• Trump’s Apprentice was also one of her favorite shows
• She has a history of falsely accusing men of rape, including Les Moonves
• She told Anderson Cooper, “most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.”
• She made a career promoting promiscuity, even writing glowingly of sexual assault and naming her cat Vagina

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/uh-oh-trumps-legal-team-reveals-shocking-conflict/

Shocking …another wrong wing biased propaganda machine.

Oh wait, it’s wrong guide, not so shocking. It’s all he has. Poor simpleton. He loves being told what he wants to hear.

 

[stxjimmy]

There's also talk that Carroll is going to sue for defamation again based on Trump's comments that he's innocent during trial.

This is called vextacious litigation.

Wouldn’t a lawyer use the legal term vexatious litigation?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Wouldn’t a lawyer use the legal term vexatious litigation?

A lawyer would, HisArpy is at best a shitty paralegal.

 

[Lazaran]

Wouldn’t a lawyer use the legal term vexatious litigation?

It’s becoming more and more apparent that Derpy Mason once watched an episode of Matlock at a Holiday Inn Express…

 

[Rightguide]

Why perhaps MAGA folks should be a little cautious before they defame Ms Carroll, insult the Judge or wax too lyrical on the justice dealt to their idol. The actual award was pretty much in line with the plaintiffs suggestions, but $65 million in punitive damages was entirely at the Jury's discretion and aimed squarely at Trump's conduct on Social Media.

I note that his idiot lawyer promptly attacked the Judge outside of court. She laid herself open to a contempt charge, though Kaplan probably will not want to make her a martyr. He could force her to make a humiliating apology to the court - that would make a fun news headline. Interesting times.

February 15, 2024
What the Media hasn't Told you About Carroll v. Trump
By Daniel R. Street

In January 2024, the 2019 defamation claim went to trial. This time the jury found Donald Trump’s forceful denials of Carroll’s claims were defamatory and awarded $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages. What the media is not telling you is Carroll will not collect $83.3 million, because the compensatory damage award is grossly excessive and the punitive damage award violates the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. Her damages will be reduced, even if the case is not reversed altogether.

The Excessive Compensatory Damages. Compensatory damages are the actual loss or damage a party suffered. Recall, the award for what Carroll claims (and the jury found) were defamatory statements made by Trump in 2019 totaled $18.3 million in compensatory damages. This award was made on New York State Law defamation claims. The United States Supreme Court ruled in a case called Gasperini v. Center for Humanities, Inc., that state law governs the review of the amount of a jury verdict in a diversity case like this one.

Under New York State law, a money judgment is excessive “...if it deviates materially from what would be reasonable compensation.” This standard requires the court to review the evidence presented at trial in support of the award and compare the award to other similar New York cases.

A review of New York case law on defamation reveals no comparable awards to this one, in fact it is not even close. New York law simply does not support compensatory damages of more than $3 or $4 million, nowhere near the $18,300,000 awarded to Carroll by the jury. There are no $18.3 million compensatory damage awards by New York State courts. Once the award is found to be excessive it must be lowered to the maximum amount which can be recovered. This is known as the maximum recovery rule. At the very least, Carroll’s compensatory damages should be reduced from $18.3 million to $3 or $4 million. (There is also the issue of duplicative damage awards, since similar awards were made by both juries, including for “repairing” Carroll’s reputation and defamation).

More here: https://www.americanthinker.com/art...hasnt_told_you_about_emcarroll_v_trumpem.html

This article is long but it outlines all of the reasons why E. Jean Carrol is unlikely to see anywhere neat $83 million dollars the judge assessed against Donald Trump. Yes I know, but read it and weep.

 

[ll74]

This article is long but it outlines all of the reasons why E. Jean Carrol is unlikely to see anywhere neat $83 million dollars the judge assessed against Donald Trump. Yes I know, but read it and weep.

The amount was meant to deter the plaintiff from engaging in further inappropriate defaming behavior towards the defendant.

(I cut out the part that should've been quoted)

 

[Bn2f]

Whew!
I’m so glad you posted this! Rona McDaniel can get her job back because trump isn’t bleeding the RNC to death. I don’t have to spend money on his cool new shoes Air Frauders and I’m sure he’ll send back that donation that I gave him and Melania from his begging for money Valentine’s Day card.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

February 15, 2024
What the Media hasn't Told you About Carroll v. Trump
By Daniel R. Street

In January 2024, the 2019 defamation claim went to trial. This time the jury found Donald Trump’s forceful denials of Carroll’s claims were defamatory and awarded $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages. What the media is not telling you is Carroll will not collect $83.3 million, because the compensatory damage award is grossly excessive and the punitive damage award violates the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. Her damages will be reduced, even if the case is not reversed altogether.

The Excessive Compensatory Damages. Compensatory damages are the actual loss or damage a party suffered. Recall, the award for what Carroll claims (and the jury found) were defamatory statements made by Trump in 2019 totaled $18.3 million in compensatory damages. This award was made on New York State Law defamation claims. The United States Supreme Court ruled in a case called Gasperini v. Center for Humanities, Inc., that state law governs the review of the amount of a jury verdict in a diversity case like this one.

Under New York State law, a money judgment is excessive “...if it deviates materially from what would be reasonable compensation.” This standard requires the court to review the evidence presented at trial in support of the award and compare the award to other similar New York cases.

A review of New York case law on defamation reveals no comparable awards to this one, in fact it is not even close. New York law simply does not support compensatory damages of more than $3 or $4 million, nowhere near the $18,300,000 awarded to Carroll by the jury. There are no $18.3 million compensatory damage awards by New York State courts. Once the award is found to be excessive it must be lowered to the maximum amount which can be recovered. This is known as the maximum recovery rule. At the very least, Carroll’s compensatory damages should be reduced from $18.3 million to $3 or $4 million. (There is also the issue of duplicative damage awards, since similar awards were made by both juries, including for “repairing” Carroll’s reputation and defamation).

More here: https://www.americanthinker.com/art...hasnt_told_you_about_emcarroll_v_trumpem.html

This article is long but it outlines all of the reasons why E. Jean Carrol is unlikely to see anywhere neat $83 million dollars the judge assessed against Donald Trump. Yes I know, but read it and weep.

Nobody is surprised that you would take the side of a convicted rapist who cheated on all of his wives.

 

[Bray123]

February 15, 2024
What the Media hasn't Told you About Carroll v. Trump
By Daniel R. Street

In January 2024, the 2019 defamation claim went to trial. This time the jury found Donald Trump’s forceful denials of Carroll’s claims were defamatory and awarded $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages. What the media is not telling you is Carroll will not collect $83.3 million, because the compensatory damage award is grossly excessive and the punitive damage award violates the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. Her damages will be reduced, even if the case is not reversed altogether.

The Excessive Compensatory Damages. Compensatory damages are the actual loss or damage a party suffered. Recall, the award for what Carroll claims (and the jury found) were defamatory statements made by Trump in 2019 totaled $18.3 million in compensatory damages. This award was made on New York State Law defamation claims. The United States Supreme Court ruled in a case called Gasperini v. Center for Humanities, Inc., that state law governs the review of the amount of a jury verdict in a diversity case like this one.

Under New York State law, a money judgment is excessive “...if it deviates materially from what would be reasonable compensation.” This standard requires the court to review the evidence presented at trial in support of the award and compare the award to other similar New York cases.

A review of New York case law on defamation reveals no comparable awards to this one, in fact it is not even close. New York law simply does not support compensatory damages of more than $3 or $4 million, nowhere near the $18,300,000 awarded to Carroll by the jury. There are no $18.3 million compensatory damage awards by New York State courts. Once the award is found to be excessive it must be lowered to the maximum amount which can be recovered. This is known as the maximum recovery rule. At the very least, Carroll’s compensatory damages should be reduced from $18.3 million to $3 or $4 million. (There is also the issue of duplicative damage awards, since similar awards were made by both juries, including for “repairing” Carroll’s reputation and defamation).

More here: https://www.americanthinker.com/art...hasnt_told_you_about_emcarroll_v_trumpem.html

This article is long but it outlines all of the reasons why E. Jean Carrol is unlikely to see anywhere neat $83 million dollars the judge assessed against Donald Trump. Yes I know, but read it and weep.

Trump is desperately trying to ring-fence his money, making sure that Giuliani takes priority (strangely after saying that no money was due because his case was lost) and selling off the few properties he has that are not over-mortgaged.

 

[Rightguide]

The amount was meant to deter the plaintiff from engaging in further inappropriate defaming behavior towards the defendant.

(I cut out the part that should've been quoted)

The amount was meant to financially cripple the GOP opponent of Joe Biden. Nothing more.

 

[ll74]

The amount was meant to financially cripple the GOP opponent of Joe Biden. Nothing more.

He's not financially crippled.

 

[HisArpy]

February 15, 2024
What the Media hasn't Told you About Carroll v. Trump
By Daniel R. Street

In January 2024, the 2019 defamation claim went to trial. This time the jury found Donald Trump’s forceful denials of Carroll’s claims were defamatory and awarded $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages. What the media is not telling you is Carroll will not collect $83.3 million, because the compensatory damage award is grossly excessive and the punitive damage award violates the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. Her damages will be reduced, even if the case is not reversed altogether.

The Excessive Compensatory Damages. Compensatory damages are the actual loss or damage a party suffered. Recall, the award for what Carroll claims (and the jury found) were defamatory statements made by Trump in 2019 totaled $18.3 million in compensatory damages. This award was made on New York State Law defamation claims. The United States Supreme Court ruled in a case called Gasperini v. Center for Humanities, Inc., that state law governs the review of the amount of a jury verdict in a diversity case like this one.

Under New York State law, a money judgment is excessive “...if it deviates materially from what would be reasonable compensation.” This standard requires the court to review the evidence presented at trial in support of the award and compare the award to other similar New York cases.

A review of New York case law on defamation reveals no comparable awards to this one, in fact it is not even close. New York law simply does not support compensatory damages of more than $3 or $4 million, nowhere near the $18,300,000 awarded to Carroll by the jury. There are no $18.3 million compensatory damage awards by New York State courts. Once the award is found to be excessive it must be lowered to the maximum amount which can be recovered. This is known as the maximum recovery rule. At the very least, Carroll’s compensatory damages should be reduced from $18.3 million to $3 or $4 million. (There is also the issue of duplicative damage awards, since similar awards were made by both juries, including for “repairing” Carroll’s reputation and defamation).

More here: https://www.americanthinker.com/art...hasnt_told_you_about_emcarroll_v_trumpem.html

This article is long but it outlines all of the reasons why E. Jean Carrol is unlikely to see anywhere neat $83 million dollars the judge assessed against Donald Trump. Yes I know, but read it and weep.

It's fairly certain that the verdict will be reversed on appeal. Protesting your innocence cannot be defamatory since it's not directed at your accuser. Instead it is a declaration that ones self is innocent.

 

[dkovic77]

The amount was meant to financially cripple the GOP opponent of Joe Biden. Nothing more.

Maybe he shouldn’t have done some of the stuff he has done? Just a thought.

Ohhh and the American [Conservative] Thinker… a new “source” for you- but when they go “beyond journalism” without any actual journalism credits— sounds just like the type of thing you would follow.

February 15, 2024
What the Media hasn't Told you About Carroll v. Trump
By Daniel R. Street

In January 2024, the 2019 defamation claim went to trial. This time the jury found Donald Trump’s forceful denials of Carroll’s claims were defamatory and awarded $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages. What the media is not telling you is Carroll will not collect $83.3 million, because the compensatory damage award is grossly excessive and the punitive damage award violates the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. Her damages will be reduced, even if the case is not reversed altogether.

The Excessive Compensatory Damages. Compensatory damages are the actual loss or damage a party suffered. Recall, the award for what Carroll claims (and the jury found) were defamatory statements made by Trump in 2019 totaled $18.3 million in compensatory damages. This award was made on New York State Law defamation claims. The United States Supreme Court ruled in a case called Gasperini v. Center for Humanities, Inc., that state law governs the review of the amount of a jury verdict in a diversity case like this one.

Under New York State law, a money judgment is excessive “...if it deviates materially from what would be reasonable compensation.” This standard requires the court to review the evidence presented at trial in support of the award and compare the award to other similar New York cases.

A review of New York case law on defamation reveals no comparable awards to this one, in fact it is not even close. New York law simply does not support compensatory damages of more than $3 or $4 million, nowhere near the $18,300,000 awarded to Carroll by the jury. There are no $18.3 million compensatory damage awards by New York State courts. Once the award is found to be excessive it must be lowered to the maximum amount which can be recovered. This is known as the maximum recovery rule. At the very least, Carroll’s compensatory damages should be reduced from $18.3 million to $3 or $4 million. (There is also the issue of duplicative damage awards, since similar awards were made by both juries, including for “repairing” Carroll’s reputation and defamation).

More here: https://www.americanthinker.com/art...hasnt_told_you_about_emcarroll_v_trumpem.html

This article is long but it outlines all of the reasons why E. Jean Carrol is unlikely to see anywhere neat $83 million dollars the judge assessed against Donald Trump. Yes I know, but read it and weep.

 

[Bn2f]

The amount was meant to financially cripple the GOP opponent of Joe Biden. Nothing more.

You came oh so close to getting it right. But what you mean is that the orange one is crippling GOP congressional chances.​

Trump is out of money": Republicans fear Trump will drain RNC funds to pay his own legal bills​

https://www.salon.com/2024/02/15/tr...l-drain-rnc-funds-to-pay-his-own-legal-bills/


Trump Legal Fees Threaten to Cause Cash Crunch by July

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-14/donald-trump-on-pace-to-drain-legal-funds-by-july

 

[colddiesel]

February 15, 2024
What the Media hasn't Told you About Carroll v. Trump
By Daniel R. Street

In January 2024, the 2019 defamation claim went to trial. This time the jury found Donald Trump’s forceful denials of Carroll’s claims were defamatory and awarded $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages. What the media is not telling you is Carroll will not collect $83.3 million, because the compensatory damage award is grossly excessive and the punitive damage award violates the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. Her damages will be reduced, even if the case is not reversed altogether.

It had to happen I guess. On this occasion I agree with you but not entirely. The Compensatory damages were high, high enough that I think that they will likely be reduced on appeal, but not to the 3 or 4 million you suggest, but if they were halved on appeal no-one should be too surprised. The Punitive damages award was extremely high at $65 million and I suspect that will be cut severely. However one of the principles of Punitive damages is that the defendant should be punished so that the award hurts commensurate with the defendants capacity to pay and sufficient to deter further misconduct. Having proclaimed his wealth so loudly and so often Trump now has a good reason to argue the opposite !

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It's fairly certain that the verdict will be reversed on appeal.

You're also on record of being "fairly certain" water is carbon based.

 

[stxjimmy]

You're also on record of being "fairly certain" water is carbon based.

The verdict will be reversed and trump given damages?

 

[butters]

The Federal Insurance Company, with strong ties to trump, paid his bond on Friday

The company underwriting the $91.6 million bond former President Donald Trump paid Friday in his civil defamation case is part of the insurance group whose appraisal of Trump’s triplex in 2010 was foiled because “Mrs. Trump was sleeping,” court and federal records show.

U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filings show the company is a principal member of Chubb, a century-old insurance corporation based in New Jersey with a history of working with Trump.

Chubb is also tied to Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, according to a Bloomberg report on accusations that the property improperly used Chicago River water for its cooling system.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bond-carroll/

 

[adrina]

The Federal Insurance Company, with strong ties to trump, paid his bond on Friday







https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bond-carroll/

Wouldn't want to be them.

 

[Pad_Foot]

91.3 million??

 

[butters]

91.3 million??

.6. yeah

there's a percentage to be paid over the top of the initial fee

 

[Pad_Foot]

The verdict will be reversed and trump given damages?

Umm? He never appealed the guilty verdict for what he did. Shit! He never showed up for that trial !!!
So this is just about reducing the amount he owes not overturning shit!
Our fellow citizens found him guilty!
What if some rich asdhoke fixvthid to your mom? What then “Christians”??