A question only Mod or Laurel can answer

[Comshaw]

So after the Foo Fraa over in the Great Books thread I had a thought and the thing is like a brain worm, it won't go away. I've been here a long time, since 2000. I've seen more than a few personas get banned. My question is: If an author gets banned does all their works get removed? And if the stories aren't removed, how would someone who is banned go about requesting such action if they are banned?

Just one of those questions that won't leave me alone.


Comshaw

 

[alohadave]

You request story removal through the story side of the site: https://www.literotica.com/faq/publishing/remove-published-work

You do not need a forum account for this.

 

[Comshaw]

You request story removal through the story side of the site: https://www.literotica.com/faq/publishing/remove-published-work

You do not need a forum account for this.

Cool, thanks. That answered part of my question: how to. However, I'm not talking about a ban on a forum. I'm talking a ban from the site. I always assumed if you got banned, you were banned from the site not just the forum. No? Yes? And if you get banned from the site can you still use the link to request removal of your works? Damn I hate when a good answer generates another question!

Also the other half: Do the powers that be leave the banned author's works up, or do they delete them when that author get's banned?

Comshaw

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Cool, thanks. That answered half my question: how to. The other half: Do the powers that be leave the banned author's works up, or do they delete them when that author get's banned?

Comshaw

Form-side bans have nothing to do with story-side ones. I assume that the author's work would be affected only if they receive a story-side ban (if there is such a thing at all)
Removal of work happens in cases of suspected AI usage, plagiarism, not complying with site policies, etc. But I've never heard that such authors are not allowed to submit a new story. Those stories possibly have to pass harsher scrutiny, but I've never heard of them not being allowed.

 

[Comshaw]

Form-side bans have nothing to do with story-side ones. I assume that the author's work would be affected only if they receive a story-side ban (if there is such a thing at all)
Removal of work happens in cases of suspected AI usage, plagiarism, not complying with site policies, etc. But I've never heard that such authors are not allowed to submit a new story. Those stories possibly have to pass harsher scrutiny, but I've never heard of them not being allowed.

I think you misunderstood. Over my years here I've seen personas banned from the site. If that happens to an author (it doesn't matter the reason only that they are banned from the site) does their work stay up or is it deleted? If they can't access their profile for login purposes to request their works be deleted because they are banned, how do they request their works be taken down?

Comshaw

 

[AwkwardlySet]

I think you misunderstood. Over my years here I've seen personas banned from the site. If that happens to an author (it doesn't matter the reason only that they are banned from the site) does their work stay up or is it deleted? If they can't access their profile for login purposes to request their works be deleted because they are banned, how do they request their works be taken down?

Comshaw

I understood you. What I am saying is that being banned on the forum has nothing to do with being banned on the story side of the website. Those two parts of Literotica function separately.

There are people who were banned permanently from the forum yet they keep posting new stories without a problem. Their work is unaffected by the forum ban. I am not sure if that's the kind of ban you had in mind.
On the other hand, I've never heard of anyone being banned on the story side of Literotica so that they aren't allowed to post any new stories, comment and vote on other people's stories, etc. We've seen and heard about all stories being removed but I don't know about any such bans where the story side account was closed/deleted.

Maybe some older members know of such cases.

 

[Comshaw]

I understood you. What I am saying is that being banned on the forum has nothing to do with being banned on the story side of the website. Those two parts of Literotica function separately.

There are people who were banned permanently from the forum yet they keep posting new stories without a problem. Their work is unaffected by the forum ban. I am not sure if that's the kind of ban you had in mind.
On the other hand, I've never heard of anyone being banned on the story side of Literotica so that they aren't allowed to post any new stories, comment and vote on other people's stories, etc. We've seen and heard about all stories being removed but I don't know about any such bans where the story side account was closed/deleted.

Maybe some older members know of such cases.

I think we're talking past each other. I understand what you're saying, but that wasn't what I was asking. Let me see if I can clarify my query.

My question was about someone getting banned from the site, not just the forum. That takes an L&M level action not just a forum mod level. So if it's severe enough to warrant a site-level ban, does all their works go with them? Or must they request those works be removed (if they want them to be) and how would someone who is banned, without a login go about requesting that?

Comshaw

 

[MelissaBaby]

I think we're talking past each other. I understand what you're saying, but that wasn't what I was asking. Let me see if I can clarify my query.

My question was about someone getting banned from the site, not just the forum. That takes an L&M level action not just a forum mod level. So if it's severe enough to warrant a site-level ban, does all their works go with them? Or must they request those works be removed (if they want them to be) and how would someone who is banned, without a login go about requesting that?

Comshaw

They can message the Lit acccount on either Twitter or BlueSky, I suppose.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I think we're talking past each other. I understand what you're saying, but that wasn't what I was asking. Let me see if I can clarify my query.

My question was about someone getting banned from the site, not just the forum. That takes an L&M level action not just a forum mod level. So if it's severe enough to warrant a site-level ban, does all their works go with them? Or must they request those works be removed (if they want them to be) and how would someone who is banned, without a login go about requesting that?

Comshaw

I can't imagine what kind of story-side action would get you banned there but not here. The interactions are much fewer, and are more heavily moderated. The comments that are against the rules just get swatted. Stories that violate the terms get rejected. I've had at least twenty story rejections for (almost) every kind of reason, so I don't know what kind of repeat offender you would need to be to get banned there.

 

[jsmiam]

I miss the fire (including dumpster fires) icon of the previous forum software’s topic list. You could more easily tell when things were going off the rails.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I think you misunderstood. Over my years here I've seen personas banned from the site. If that happens to an author (it doesn't matter the reason only that they are banned from the site) does their work stay up or is it deleted? If they can't access their profile for login purposes to request their works be deleted because they are banned, how do they request their works be taken down?

Comshaw

If they're banned from the Forums, their work stays up story side. If they're banned from the site, I think all of their content is taken down. I know story side Comments get purged, I've seen that happen with spammers, and I vaguely recall seeing story content disappear.

 

[Bamagan]

I don't know if bans even happen on the story side of the site, but, if an account is deleted, all of the data associated with that account is purged along with it, including all stories and associated stats. As far as I know, they only delete accounts by user request, although in the 25+ years the site has existed, I suppose it wouldn't be a surprise if someone managed to make enough trouble to get kicked to the curb.
I do not think the site locks people out of their accounts, which is probably the only scenario where an author might have trouble managing their content due to administrative denial issues.

 

[RejectReality]

The only story-side bans I can think of were due to plagiarism. All the work came down with the ban for obvious reasons. If one's proven stolen, they probably all are.

I think you're worrying yourself over nothing here. Permanent forum bans aren't even very common outside of a few political nuts, spammers, suspected groomers, and fraudsters. Never mind story-side. Unless you're planning to go completely psycho and become a menace that borders on criminal, or plagiarizing, you're not getting banned story-side.

 

[Comshaw]

The only story-side bans I can think of were due to plagiarism. All the work came down with the ban for obvious reasons. If one's proven stolen, they probably all are.

I think you're worrying yourself over nothing here. Permanent forum bans aren't even very common outside of a few political nuts, spammers, suspected groomers, and fraudsters. Never mind story-side. Unless you're planning to go completely psycho and become a menace that borders on criminal, or plagiarizing, you're not getting banned story-side.

I'm not really worried about it. It's just one of those brain worms that irritate me by being persistent. As far as getting banned from the site, I think it's rare but I believe it has happened. I think Bamagan has it right, if an account is banned and deleted everything goes, including any stories by the holder of that account. Since I'll never know for sure about it, I'm a gunna go with that.

Comshaw

 

[jaF0]

I understood you. What I am saying is that being banned on the forum has nothing to do with being banned on the story side of the website. Those two parts of Literotica function separately.

On the other hand, I've never heard of anyone being banned on the story side of Literotica so that they aren't allowed to post any new stories, comment and vote on other people's stories, etc.

The only story-side bans I can think of were due to plagiarism. All the work came down with the ban for obvious reasons. If one's proven stolen, they probably all are.

I've seen many, many people banned from the forum, but I can't recall one being banned sitewide. Then again, that's much harder to notice.

They are treated very differently and as noted, it would have to be something significant for that to happen.

 

[jaF0]

I also know of several that should be banned from the forum, but never have been. Their violations are a great deal more expansive than most including some underage content.


We don't know why, but the common point seems to be having more than a few stories posted on the story side.

 

[jaF0]

I always assumed if you got banned, you were banned from the site not just the forum. No?

Not always, no.

In fact, that would be kind of rare.

 

[Comshaw]

Not always, no.

In fact, that would be kind of rare.

Yeah I figured it would be rare. Getting banned from a forum you only need to be a tiny little Ahole. You have to be a pretty big one, huge in fact, to get thrown out of a site like this. Still, even though it's rare I'm positive it has happened.
As I said, it was just one of those irritating questions (like if Micky is a mouse and Pluto is a dog, what the hell is Goofy?) that buzz around in my brain from time to time and won't leave.

Comshaw