Adult Film Scenes/Films Written As Narrative Story

[EmilyMiller]

Feels like they left rather quickly. Welfare check tomorrow?

Huh?

 

[Belegon]

The thing i find most interesting is that this reminded me we have a former AH'er who has had some of her work turned into adult fims. Google "Babysitting the Baqumgartners."

 

[BobbyBrandt]

Does anyone enjoy adult films, but would love to improve the dialogue & narrative structure of the story.

I have a bunch of scenes that I have in my head, and I would imagine other people do to.

Would anyone else like to discuss those scenes/films & see if we can improve the lazy writing or poor execution.

Lost in translation.

Not the movie, the process, particularly in adult films.

Many European films are devoid of much dialogue if they have visions of distribution in the U.S. or similar. Even films from U.S. based production companies, such as Vixen (Vixen, Blacked, Tushy, etc.) minimize the dialogue when foreign speaking casts are used. This also frequently impacts the narrative.

 

[SimonDoom]

Does anyone enjoy adult films, but would love to improve the dialogue & narrative structure of the story.

I have a bunch of scenes that I have in my head, and I would imagine other people do to.

Would anyone else like to discuss those scenes/films & see if we can improve the lazy writing or poor execution.

I think it's clear at this point that if you want meaningful responses you have to be clearer about what you're asking for. Obviously, most of the responders in this thread don't know.

You're getting a lot of responses that seem to be about eroticizing well-known movies. I understood you to be asking specifically about how existing ADULT, meaning erotic, movies could be made better with better dialogue and narrative. Am I right about that?

It would help immensely if you would list specific movies you're interested in. Are you talking about X-rated movies?

 

[crookedletter]

At first I thought people were being intentionally dense because the OP rubbed them the wrong way for whatever reason. But now I'm curious: when people see the term "adult film," do they really just think that means mainstream movies made for adults?

 

[SimonDoom]

At first I thought people were being intentionally dense because the OP rubbed them the wrong way for whatever reason. But now I'm curious: when people see the term "adult film," do they really just think that means mainstream movies made for adults?

That's not how I interpreted it. I figured he meant "adult films," meaning "sex films."

I think AwkwardlySet's Rorschach (does anybody else need to look that up every time to remember how to spell it, or is it just me?) Test comment is correct. People quickly see in an OP what they want to and carry on accordingly. I've been guilty of that, too.

 

[Writer61]

At first I thought people were being intentionally dense because the OP rubbed them the wrong way for whatever reason. But now I'm curious: when people see the term "adult film," do they really just think that means mainstream movies made for adults?

I understood it as the OP intended.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

I understood it as the OP intended.

I believe that I understood as well, and responded with what I hoped was relevant information.

 

[Writer61]

Huh?

Sorry, it sounded like your guests arrived and left very quickly. I was joking about them getting sick. Pretty lame.

 

[alohadave]

Lost in translation.

Not the movie, the process, particularly in adult films.

Many European films are devoid of much dialogue if they have visions of distribution in the U.S. or similar. Even films from U.S. based production companies, such as Vixen (Vixen, Blacked, Tushy, etc.) minimize the dialogue when foreign speaking casts are used. This also frequently impacts the narrative.

That's just porn in general. People aren't watching for the witty reparte.

Though it would be nice if they did more than just grunt and moan for 45 minutes.

 

[SimonDoom]

To get back to the original post, I have LONG thought there is (or may be) an untapped market for "good" erotic movies--movies that are explicit in their portrayal of sexuality but also have decent narrative and production values. I've seen almost no X-rated films that have, IMO, any artistic value, and I've seen very few "mainstream" movies that get erotica quite right, because they withhold things for ratings and audience purposes.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Sorry, it sounded like your guests arrived and left very quickly. I was joking about them getting sick. Pretty lame.

OK - I’ll post a log of people arriving and leaving and their medical state next time…

 

[VerbalAbuse]

That's just porn in general. People aren't watching for the witty reparte.

Though it would be nice if they did more than just grunt and moan for 45 minutes.

I also like it when they're gagged.

 

[crookedletter]

To get back to the original post, I have LONG thought there is (or may be) an untapped market for "good" erotic movies--movies that are explicit in their portrayal of sexuality but also have decent narrative and production values. I've seen almost no X-rated films that have, IMO, any artistic value, and I've seen very few "mainstream" movies that get erotica quite right, because they withhold things for ratings and audience purposes.

Reminds me of a quote from Superbad:

"I'm sorry... that the Coen brothers don't direct the porn I watch."

I do recall a movie I watched in college, I think the name was 9 Songs. It wasn't ultimately very good porn or a very good movie. But it was kind of a self-serious relationship drama that also happened to have explicit sex scenes. My takeaway was that it was an interesting approach, a pushing of one particular envelope that I'd be curious to see tried more. Even if the execution wasn't all that compelling.

 

[Rob_Royale]

So there was a time when an attempt at stories and dialog was a thing in mainstream porn. The 60's through the 90's, and the VHS era especially. I know most of us are quite aware of it.

My wife was a video store manage back in the day. The sort with a back room poorly hidden with a curtain and a sign that read "You Must BE 18 To Enter". Whenever Vivid, Wicked, or VCA would release a new film my wife would bring it home for us. It was a fun time. The plots were lame most of the time, but there were a few gems.

The internet sort of killed the medium, turning it into a landscape of eight-minute clips that ask you to go to a pay site to see the unedited version which is nine minutes long. And then OF and similar sites have further watered it down.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a rant or complaint, far from it. Because now, the folks who want a story - they come here and read our stories. Which is pretty frigging cool.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Adult videos that are being produced these days, but also many of the stories here, reflect the tastes of the audience. If you find both of those lacking in plot and characters, and I certainly do, that's because that's what readers/viewers want to read/see. It's as simple as that.

Here, at least, a decent part of the authorship writes what they want to write, while I believe that adult videos are, without exception, commercially oriented and are pandering to the taste of the audience.

 

[alohadave]

To get back to the original post, I have LONG thought there is (or may be) an untapped market for "good" erotic movies--movies that are explicit in their portrayal of sexuality but also have decent narrative and production values. I've seen almost no X-rated films that have, IMO, any artistic value, and I've seen very few "mainstream" movies that get erotica quite right, because they withhold things for ratings and audience purposes.

PureTaboo tends to have a more cinematic look and feel, and an attempt at setting up the sex. They tend to be darker storylines.

Bree Mills is a producer that has this kind of approach.

 

[Writer61]

For real sexuality without the encumbrance of a story, have a look at Ersties.com.

 

[Blade409]

Okay. Now that I think fervor over the original post has died down a bit. Let me answer some questions & explain further.

Yes I do mean XXX rated films. I know I am looking for a very small segment of the public, and perhaps I placed this thread in the wrong area of the forum, but I am looking for another people who have watched a porn film & thought as they are watching the set up, “Wow, that was totally lazy writing, all the screenwriter needed to do was add one or two sentences to that setup & the turn (what I call the section of the scene where the realization that sex is going to happen here & now) would be much more fluid & not as obvious. And I think about writing a scene that does exactly that.

As an example I’ll give a scene from a well known studio. They were doing a Ghostbusters parody where all the Ghostbusters are female, a few years ago, and in the plot of the film, two of the ghostbusters are “taking care” of the possessed wife on this house call, and the other two Ghostbusters are just standing there while the husband wallows in his worry about his wife. After the husband says “They’re fucking my wife aren’t they?” The two remaining Ghostbusters chat amongst themselves & say they should do something, and that he is really cute, so they just sit next to him & start undressing & kissing him. The scene makes it a forgone conclusion that sex is happening & they totally skip the turn in the scene. I would love to write a scene that adds dialogue to that section & gives more fun, or depth, or purpose to the sex. That’s what I mean.

And since I think that, I thought there might be other people who think that as well, and would like to have a chat about scenes like that & how we could improve them.

Hopefully that explains at least part of what I’m trying to say.

 

[EmilyMiller]

And since I think that, I thought there might be other people who think that as well, and would like to have a chat about scenes like that & how we could improve them.

Glad you came back.

I think there might be some people who are interested, but a lot of us are busy writing our own scenes, and may not be as keen to improve other people’s ones.

I’ve used a porn scene (hell even a GIF) as inspiration occasionally, particularly if both I and my SO responded to it (which I figure means cross-gender appeal). But the story and the characters then have a life all of their own.

For example, The Infernal Internal Machines was inspired by a short video another Lit author (can’t recall who) posted on X before it became a Hell hole. It was of a woman with a dildo in her mouth and her head in a spring-loaded harness which was puling her onto the toy and stopping her from removing it. It kinda appealed to my dormant bondage tendencies, and less dormant deep throat ones, and I wrote a story with a similar contraption. But aside from that one detail, the story was nothing to do with the vid.

Does that make sense?

 

[Blade409]

It does.

Glad you came back.

I think there might be some people who are interested, but a lot of us are busy writing our own scenes, and may not be as keen to improve other people’s ones.

I’ve used a porn scene (hell even a GIF) as inspiration occasionally, particularly if both I and my SO responded to it (which I figure means cross-gender appeal). But the story and the characters then have a life all of their own.

For example, The Infernal Internal Machines was inspired by a short video another Lit author (can’t recall who) posted on X before it became a Hell hole. It was of a woman with a dildo in her mouth and her head in a spring-loaded harness which was puling her onto the toy and stopping her from removing it. It kinda appealed to my dormant bondage tendencies, and less dormant deep throat ones, and I wrote a story with a similar contraption. But aside from that one detail, the story was nothing to do with the vid.

Does that make sense?

It does. Inspiration comes in many forms. It is the oddest & most elusive of the muses in my humble opinion.