Alvin Greene - the future of the Democrat Party

[KRCummings]

lol, We get tons of him on the local news. I think he's in Pookie's part of the state.

It's like open mic night on the news. I'm jealous you guys get all this free entertainment.

 

[Wrong Element]

Nobody anywhere can make O'Donnel or Alvin look like anything but a moron. The difference is the Republican Party backs O'Donnel where as the Democrat party accuses the right of some how shanghaing an election to get Alvin to this point.

At least Democrats know what shame is and can feel it and given a chance even the super looney lefties would gladly get Green hit by a bus where as Republicans are just pissed off that there aren't more like O'Donnel and Angle.

This is a good point. I haven't seen a single liberal on this board defend Greene in any way, or suggest that he's anything other than a dude of apparently subpar intelligence and questionable ability to obey the law, who somehow thought it would be a good idea to spend $10,000 on his filing fee for the Senate.

O'Donnell, on the other hand, has numerous fans here. Nothing like an anti-sex zealot to get the blood of porn board conservatives racin'.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

This is a good point. I haven't seen a single liberal on this board defend Greene in any way, or suggest that he's anything other than a dude of apparently subpar intelligence and questionable ability to obey the law, who somehow thought it would be a good idea to spend $10,000 on his filing fee for the Senate.

O'Donnell, on the other hand, has numerous fans here. Nothing like an anti-sex zealot to get the blood of porn board conservatives racin'.

Watch how you talk about my Christine, buster.

 

[Wrong Element]

And anyone who uses the phrase "Democrat Party" shouldn't be casting stones regarding the intellect of other people.

 

[toubab]

This is a good point. I haven't seen a single liberal on this board defend Greene in any way, or suggest that he's anything other than a dude of apparently subpar intelligence and questionable ability to obey the law, who somehow thought it would be a good idea to spend $10,000 on his filing fee for the Senate.

O'Donnell, on the other hand, has numerous fans here. Nothing like an anti-sex zealot to get the blood of porn board conservatives racin'.

I'll defend Greene, to a certain extent. Most freshmen in the Senate shut up and do as they're told by their leadership, so he wouldn't be that different than other freshmen. The job is basically one of voting on bills drafted by others when you're a freshman, nothing more. He'd be a rubber stamp, and he can do that as well as the next person. Same thing applies with Christine O'Donnell, of course, although she is much smarter and more capable than Greene, it appears, and might have more of a future, if elected.

 

[TWB]

There is no democrat party. There is a Democratic Party, and its soon to be the only major party in Colorado, it seems.

 

[toubab]

There is no democrat party. There is a Democratic Party, and its soon to be the only major party in Colorado, it seems.

Don't count on that. I presume they have straight party voting in Colorado, and therefore the Republican candidate for governor will easily get the 10% needed to keep the party major.

 

[TWB]

Don't count on that. I presume they have straight party voting in Colorado, and therefore the Republican candidate for governor will easily get the 10% needed to keep the party major.

You might be right, time will tell.

I don't usually quote Newsmax, but read up.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/US-Colorado-Republican-Quandary/2010/10/19/id/374115

"It probably will happen," said Republican state party chairman Dick Wadhams. "Voters are asking, 'Why would I waste my vote on Maes? "'

 

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[toubab]

You might be right, time will tell.

I don't usually quote Newsmax, but read up.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/US-Colorado-Republican-Quandary/2010/10/19/id/374115

"It probably will happen," said Republican state party chairman Dick Wadhams. "Voters are asking, 'Why would I waste my vote on Maes? "'

Wow. That's an almost unbelievable statement for the Republican state party chairman to make.

I just can't see either the Democratic Party or the Republican party not getting at least 10% of the vote for governor in any state in the country. We shall see very soon.

 

[doctor_insanus]

There is no democrat party. There is a Democratic Party, and its soon to be the only major party in Colorado, it seems.

McCarthy was fond of tossing the phrase around. It seems only fitting that his political and intellectual heirs have embraced it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Ah, well. However poorly that poor fellow Greene is doing, the South Carolina Democrats are not, AFAIK, worried about losing major-party status.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Trouble is it's not democratic, it doesn't support democratic values. It prefers to pass it's agenda against the will of the people . . .

Not even you believe that nonsense.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

Their penchant for doing just that is about to sweep the Democrats right out of Congress. I suppose you think their numbers are up over the health care bill eh?

I think their numbers are down over sheer frustration at the jobless rate. Backlash over the health care bill, not so much.

 

[mercury14]

No, it isn't a joke.

This retard is the Democrat candidate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgt02iiJw5s

Start at 1:30.

Explain how someone the Dems didnt know about and aren't campaigning for or even funding... and will not win... is the "future of the Democratic party"?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Explain how someone the Dems didnt know about and aren't campaigning for or even funding... and will not win... is the "future of the Democratic party"?

It would, indeed, make a lot more sense to say Christine O'Donnell or Dan Maes is "the future of the GOP"!

 

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[KingOrfeo]

Your problem has always been your occupation as a propagandist. It's that syndrome of "don't snow me with facts my mind's already made up," that gets you every time. Everything is a big surprise isn't it?

Facts? These are facts.

A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1.

"I was disappointed that it didn't provide universal coverage," said Bronwyn Bleakley, 35, a biology professor from Easton, Mass.

More than 30 million people would gain coverage in 2019 when the law is fully phased in, but another 20 million or so would remain uninsured. Bleakley, who was uninsured early in her career, views the overhaul as a work in progress.

The poll found that about four in 10 adults think the new law did not go far enough to change the health care system, regardless of whether they support the law, oppose it or remain neutral. On the other side, about one in five say they oppose the law because they think the federal government should not be involved in health care at all.

 

[where]

is it this Al Green?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVzYxqG9N1c


he would get my vote

 

[firespin]

It would, indeed, make a lot more sense to say Christine O'Donnell or Dan Maes is "the future of the GOP"!

Who got more votes?

 

[firespin]

Facts? These are facts.

Moron.

"The AP poll was conducted by Stanford University with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Overall, 30 percent favored the legislation, while 40 percent opposed it, and another 30 percent remained neutral."

If something doesn't go far enough, you don't oppose it...in general, you support it.

I'd imagine essentially all the people who wanted more are in the group of supporters or neutral parties.

 

[Liar]

Moron.

"The AP poll was conducted by Stanford University with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Overall, 30 percent favored the legislation, while 40 percent opposed it, and another 30 percent remained neutral."

If something doesn't go far enough, you don't oppose it...in general, you support it.

I'd imagine essentially all the people who wanted more are in the group of supporters or neutral parties.

I remember a poll about the same thing this spring about the bill up for passing. It had roughly the same numbers.

In that one they specifically asked the ones who were against: Why? And got equal parts "government takeover!" and "no public option!".

I'll try and find it, but apologies if I fail. My Google Fu is weak and I have a goddamn flu.

ETA: Found something. Not exactly the one I meant, but it says the same thing pretty much. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/12/in-polls-much-opposition-to-health-care.html

 

[firespin]

I remember a poll about the same thing this spring about the bill up for passing. It had roughly the same numbers.

In that one they specifically asked the ones who were against: Why? And got equal parts "government takeover!" and "no public option!".

I'll try and find it, but apologies if I fail. My Google Fu is weak and I have a goddamn flu.

ETA: Found something. Not exactly the one I meant, but it says the same thing pretty much. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/12/in-polls-much-opposition-to-health-care.html

It doesn't actually say what you just said. Instead, it says this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5ieXw28ZUpg/SxyVY8X94lI/AAAAAAAABb4/qblR4eEhryA/s400/hc.png

"Goes too far" is much bigger than "doesn't go far enough"

 

[Liar]

It doesn't actually say what you just said. Instead, it says this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5ieXw28ZUpg/SxyVY8X94lI/AAAAAAAABb4/qblR4eEhryA/s400/hc.png

"Goes too far" is much bigger than "doesn't go far enough"

True dat. But it also says that favors outnumbers opposes. The opposition is in lockstep behind a single idea, whereas the support is more nuanced.

Or was, in this poll, half a year ago. Take it for what it is. Just wanted to poke a hole in your blanket assumption up there