AngelaSaxon
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Obviously one can think of or could at least find examples from fiction and reality that don't just rest on the literary trope of pretending women forget they mostly have teeth, but very often NC/R fictions here rely on everyone just agreeing to pretend it's not an issue - the comparison I think I might have made was the long history of sitcoms having people wrestle with their emotions about an unexpected pregnancy, with both the makers of the tv episode and the audience tacitly agreeing that abortion doesn't exist in this parallel universe.
Most of the obvious ways to get around the existence of teeth and jaws able to exert enough force to slice through meat are about threats of violence, and often groups of more than one person doing the coercing.
But if I think of real world examples in which people got away with forced oral sex, it's usually a more manipulative situation in which a woman suddenly finds herself with a massive choice - to let it happen or bloodily kill or at least maim someone. That there's not much in between makes this a more difficult choice in the moment than anger or seemingly plausible pragmatism might suggest. Especially if you are in a situation in which you have no reason to think - certainly no ability to be certain - that your life is at stake, or that there's a probability of serious injury.
In other words, in real life examples I can think of, it's the opposite of the fictional solution I invoked just before - if there isn't a plausible threat of additional violence of the type you see in "bite me and you lose all your teeth" tropes here, or "be good or I slit your throat" versions, the odds of a woman choosing what can feel like a massive escalation go, so to speak, down, whether or not they should.
In one example with which I'm familiar, a woman was contracted to perform in a porn video, which included oral sex but not throat- or face-fucking, and the people involved, both the performer and the people involved in this production who were present for the shoot, ignored the unambiguous gestures they'd previously agreed would be the non-verbal stop signal.
They were very aggressive and in multiple senses in violation of the agreement about performing, including obstructing her airways which was very much not something she'd agreed to. But she never thought she was at risk of death from deliberate violence or even negligence. The de facto decision to not sever this guy's penis wasn't her giving consent, or being unaware of the option - not everyone finds it easy to bloodily maim people, even people they are currently passionately hating.
I had a friend who spent some time in the military, and he once explained to me that the purpose of training isn't just to give people skills and knowledge in relation to killing; it's also about increasing the proportion of people who in battle will kill. That for centuries militaries have known that whatever you do, however much you define failing to try to kill as "cowardice in the face of the enemy", there's always a portion of those soldiers who are suddenly in that situation and just don't, just won't. They fire in the air, or deliberately miss the enemy, even if this means that they themselves get shot. This is more true with conscripted people, but is actually true for volunteers as well.
The purpose of training and of almost everything they did was both to keep that portion as low as possible, and as much as possible to define that refusal to kill as cowardice, treason, disloyalty. Maybe it even is sometimes, but also making people more willing to kill can be quite a difficult task...
Incidentally, Australia isn't and wasn't then particularly favorable to porn production, and Victoria isn't and really wasn't an exception.
But also this incident took place not that long after a court case in which it was found that someone who had raped a sex worker was guilty only of theft or fraud, because she sold sex and this was like shoplifting from her metaphorical store. I.e. her body.
If those guys making porn were maybe at most only going to be guilty of the civil matter of violating the details of a work contract... well...
This was before I noticed the porn phenomenon of videos of highly abusive sex targeted at women often literally labelled as "feminists" in particular, but the people involved would probably have fit in with that tendency, if porn production had really continued in Australia in its earlier forms. (By 'literally' I mean they'll make the woman wear a shirt with the word "feminist" on it...)
Where was I...? Oh yeah, plausibility of forced oral sex.
A single guy violently drags you into an alley, odds are relatively high one might choose your own violent self defence.
But a lot of situations of coercion and really of violence are experienced as much more murky, and that does create a space in which such things can and do happen.
It's not a particularly rare phenomenon for any given woman to have at some point had the experience of agreeing to go down on a guy only to find the guy deciding that face-fucking is his favoured path. At some level we have the power to maim most of these guys, but most of them are still walking around, penis intact...
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