Anne Rice found Jesus....

[English Lady]

Good for Anne Rice -and yup, I'd be interested to read her new book, though I don't think i've read any of her other stuff, though maybe i did read one once...I seem to think that I did.

I applaud her for it, and I defintely don't think it's an attempt to tap in to a different market -why? She was well established in the old one, making lots of money, why risk losing all that to go so radically in the other way?

And maybe people are looking for Faith, she said that maybe people are hungry -she didn't speciafy Christianity as such, though I am a typical Christian and I do believe that it is God folk are looking for (though i'm beginning to believe you can find him without being a Christian but thats off topic*L*)

I bless her little cotton socks! You show'em Anne!

 

[English Lady]

How about the section where she said ?

She's joining a church that tells her she's not good enough to be a priest, and it condemns her gay son. Either the woman is a weirdo, or she's just desperate to get back on the Topselling List.

the church might, but I can tell you catholics don't all think the same way. She's keeping her own faith the way she wants too with other catholics, many of which probably share her view.

Don't make the mistake of tarring us all with the same brush, we've all got our own personal faith.

 

[FurryFury]

How about the section where she said ?

She's joining a church that tells her she's not good enough to be a priest, and it condemns her gay son. Either the woman is a weirdo, or she's just desperate to get back on the Topselling List.

Ah good points! Has anyone ever read her son's stuff?

Anyway, yes she is a weirdo (aren't we all?) and I'm sure she would love to be back on the bestsellers list.

Many, many parents of gay kids are in churches that condemn them though. And many, women are in churches that won't allow them to be considered for the priesthood. That's pretty common.

Hopefully she is loving and accepting of her son where the church she chooses is not.

Fury

 

[sweetnpetite]

Kinda like what Freud did; "a NORMAL woman have ALL her orgasms coming from the vagina. A woman who gets clitoral orgasms is immature and childlike and in denial."

Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

so that's my problem!

 

[sweetnpetite]

How about the section where she said ?

She's joining a church that tells her she's not good enough to be a priest, and it condemns her gay son. Either the woman is a weirdo, or she's just desperate to get back on the Topselling List.

There is far more to the Catholic Church than that. And there are many in the Church who feel the same as her. Change can only occur from within.

Also, she's not joining the church, she was Catholic to start. She's going back to the faith she was raised in. I think it's hard to ignore the faith we've been raised in.

Finally, I am not Catholic, but I know a bit about it. It's really a misrepresentation of Catholic Doctine to say that they condemn her gay son, OR that women aren't 'good enough' to be priests. Neither of those are true, but are your interpretation of their doctines. There are reasons for these doctrines and a person can understand that without necessarily agreeing with them.

The Catholic belief system isn't the same as the overzealous Fundamentalist Protostants. The Catholic Church does not say, "God Hates Fags" (a la Fred Phelps). The Catholic Church says that homosexual behavior is wrong, and it is for the most part considered a cross to bear (sp?), just as each of us has a cross (trials, tribulations, personal issues ect.) to deal with.

American Catholics have lived in a paradoxical situation over the last few years. Although the Church and her pastors have stated on different occasions that homosexual relations are against Catholic morality, some Catholic organizations in America are stating the opposite. It must further be clarified, however, that the Church has always said that homosexuals must be treated "with respect, compassion and sensitivity" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, nn. 2357-2359).

http://www.ewtn.com/library/Theology/ZHOMOSEX.HTM

 

[sweetnpetite]

Good for Anne Rice -and yup, I'd be interested to read her new book, though I don't think i've read any of her other stuff, though maybe i did read one once...I seem to think that I did.

I applaud her for it, and I defintely don't think it's an attempt to tap in to a different market -why? She was well established in the old one, making lots of money, why risk losing all that to go so radically in the other way?

And maybe people are looking for Faith, she said that maybe people are hungry -she didn't speciafy Christianity as such, though I am a typical Christian and I do believe that it is God folk are looking for (though i'm beginning to believe you can find him without being a Christian but thats off topic*L*)

I bless her little cotton socks! You show'em Anne!

Thank you, EL. It was getting sort of venemous in here. (it feels like Jr. High) Next thing, someone will say she's ugly too. There's an awful lot of hostility towards Christianity here, and not a lot of understanding (beyond what the media tells us). It's an awfully closeminded attitude for a bunch of liberals.

<ducks to avoid flying objects.>

I am gld that she found what she felt was missing in her life, [and I too don't doubt her sincerity for pretty much the same reason as you] but am a little sad for the loss of Vampire tales. But then I've only read the one so far, so I personally am not in danger of running out of Rice.

 

[rgraham666]

I'm not just distrustful of Christianity, I'm distrustful of all religions.

In spite of their protestations, most religions are more concerned with the truth than the good. And a large portion of their followers simply use the religion to back up their prejudices and dislikes.

My own opinion of Rice is that after so many close brushes with death, she's preparing for the time when God finally calls her home. She's making sure of what her destination will be.

 

[FurryFury]

Frankly, I'm pleased for her that she has done so well after the death of her husband. With her history of difficulty coping with loss I was worried about her. She has lost weight, moved out of the Garden District and changed parts of her life for the better.

Yes, we do often go back to the church we were raised in at some point and time, it's only human.

Fury

 

[Recidiva]

Even Vampires were afraid of the cross, this is perfectly in character.

 

[logophile]

I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if someone has already said this....
But...

If you go all the way back to her earliest stuff, it doesn't seem like she ever really lost Jesus. He's always been there, right out in plain sight. Every book except the Sleeping Beauty Chronicles discusses religion, and pretty exhaustively.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Even Vampires were afraid of the cross, this is perfectly in character.

Yes, Vampires are a very religious topic. When you take the religous aspect out of it, it's kind of empty and not as spooky either.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if someone has already said this....
But...

If you go all the way back to her earliest stuff, it doesn't seem like she ever really lost Jesus. He's always been there, right out in plain sight. Every book except the Sleeping Beauty Chronicles discusses religion, and pretty exhaustively.

My guess is that she was struggling, and searching. And now she's apparently found what she's been looking for.

 

[rgraham666]

Yes, Vampires are a very religious topic. When you take the religous aspect out of it, it's kind of empty and not as spooky either.

Not a mention of religion in my vampire story.

Unless you count demons as religion.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Not a mention of religion in my vampire story.

Unless you count demons as religion.

I haven't read it, but you don't have to mention religion for it to be present. Vampires, in the state of being damned, after all are religious and/or spiritual without having to try. To take out all the religous overtones, you'd really have to try- you'd almost have to go out of your way to talk about religion and it's lack of relevance in your story.

 

[Alessia Brio]

I haven't read it, but you don't have to mention religion for it to be present. Vampires, in the state of being damned, after all are religious and/or spiritual without having to try. To take out all the religous overtones, you'd really have to try- you'd almost have to go out of your way to talk about religion and it's lack of relevance in your story.

Shit, you could claim that about sex in general.

 

[TheEarl]

I haven't read it, but you don't have to mention religion for it to be present. Vampires, in the state of being damned, after all are religious and/or spiritual without having to try. To take out all the religous overtones, you'd really have to try- you'd almost have to go out of your way to talk about religion and it's lack of relevance in your story.

Errrr... my vampire story contains no reference to religion. Depsite my new-found religiousity.

The Earl.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Shit, you could claim that about sex in general.

Your sex, maybe- definitely not mine.
(I have a veiwpoint on Anne and her religion, but it's so long a topic.. and I hardly have time online today. The short version is that she's doing it all so publicly...

 

[Recidiva]

Your sex, maybe- definitely not mine.

I say God sometimes, though.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I say God sometimes, though.

Yeah, but that's shorthand for "no one does it as good as you, baby!" Which is hard to get out when your tongue is trying to swallow itself.

 

[Recidiva]

Yeah, but that's shorthand for "no one does it as good as you, baby!" Which is hard to get out when your tongue is trying to swallow itself.

Yeah. Funny how "MMMmmaaaammmmgghh" is shorthand for a lot of things.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Yeah. Funny how "MMMmmaaaammmmgghh" is shorthand for a lot of things.

That's how you pronounce my name, did you know that?

 

[Alessia Brio]

.....

 

[Recidiva]

That's how you pronounce my name, did you know that?

I'll think of you. I won't be able to say so, but I will. I promise.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I meant sex as a divine ... transcendant ... experience.

as often as possible

 

[logophile]

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