Anne Rice found Jesus....

[Recidiva]

Threadjack:
Recidiva has an IG song quoted in her sig line.

And I sing 'em too. Saw 'em too!

 

[Recidiva]

I meant sex as a divine ... transcendant ... experience.

No way! I wonder what that's like...gosh.

 

[logophile]

And I sing 'em too. Saw 'em too!

Sing 'em, see 'em, love 'em, live 'em.
Seriously - IG is the sound track of my life.
Corny threadjack over...

 

[Alessia Brio]

And I sing 'em too. Saw 'em too!

Sing 'em daily. Saw 'em ... um ... five times. (Lilith Fair ROCKED)

 

[logophile]

Sing 'em daily. Saw 'em ... um ... five times. (Lilith Fair ROCKED)

Too bad we can't catch a show this weekend.
That would be amazing.

 

[Alex756]

I haven't read it, but you don't have to mention religion for it to be present. Vampires, in the state of being damned, after all are religious and/or spiritual without having to try. To take out all the religous overtones, you'd really have to try- you'd almost have to go out of your way to talk about religion and it's lack of relevance in your story.

This actually depends on which vampire mythos you are following.

I'm writing horror for NaNo and there is a bit of religious reference since it is the character's upbringing, BUT the actual Mythos of the 'demons' in the story is pre christian Russian /Slavic folklore. So my 'demons' are actually 2 conflicted tribs of .nature spirits. for lack of a better term.

There are MUCh less religiously dominiated Vampire myths such as the alpine myths, witch can be imobilized by an ice steak instead of wooden and have comepltely differant abilities than a standard carpathian vampire. The chinese vampires are once again a completely seperate creature as well.

I think Rice vampires ARE the damned because of her background and what she brings into them, its the same reason bringing in a slavic background is more natural for me, you write what resounds with you.

~Alex

 

[rgraham666]

In my favourite vampire background, the first vampire was Caine.

You don't get much more Damned than that.

 

[sweetnpetite]

In my favourite vampire background, the first vampire was Caine.

You don't get much more Damned than that.

You know I've heard that there is a ledgend that he was doomed to live forever- but I don't get that. The bible sais that no one could kill him, not that he would never die. Where does the rest of it come from?

 

[TheEarl]

In my favourite vampire background, the first vampire was Caine.

You don't get much more Damned than that.

I've seen some that reference Judas Iscariot as the original vampire, doomed to walk the earth forever to wallow in the pain of betraying Jesus. The aversion to silver comes from the 30 pieces.

The Earl

 

[sweetnpetite]

I've seen some that reference Judas Iscariot as the original vampire, doomed to walk the earth forever to wallow in the pain of betraying Jesus. The aversion to silver comes from the 30 pieces.

The Earl

I've heard that two, but I thought he hung himself in a field.

 

[Lord DragonsWing]

Anne Rice is an excellent author but I have to laugh at the fun she had in New Orleans.
Some friends and I attended one of her halloween parties years ago, at the time she was sueing Copelands restaurant for their sign.
It was a neon sign that she complained kept her up at nights. She lived across the street from the restaurant and had problems with Copelands bright sign keeping her up. So she sued.
It was the rage of New Orleans. Anne Rice sueing one of the cities leading restrauntiers.
Needless to say, she lost the suit. What happened next was cruel. Copelands built a bigger sign with brighter lights to antagonize Ms. Rice. The parties were never the same after that.
Just a bit of local history I thought everyone would enjoy.

 

[Recidiva]

Anne Rice is an excellent author but I have to laugh at the fun she had in New Orleans.
Some friends and I attended one of her halloween parties years ago, at the time she was sueing Copelands restaurant for their sign.
It was a neon sign that she complained kept her up at nights. She lived across the street from the restaurant and had problems with Copelands bright sign keeping her up. So she sued.
It was the rage of New Orleans. Anne Rice sueing one of the cities leading restrauntiers.
Needless to say, she lost the suit. What happened next was cruel. Copelands built a bigger sign with brighter lights to antagonize Ms. Rice. The parties were never the same after that.
Just a bit of local history I thought everyone would enjoy.

Of course the brilliant Ms. Rice couldn't have invested in a set of blinds.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Of course the brilliant Ms. Rice couldn't have invested in a set of blinds.

or heavy drapes.

I would suggest velvet...

 

[FurryFury]

Anne Rice is an excellent author but I have to laugh at the fun she had in New Orleans.
Some friends and I attended one of her halloween parties years ago, at the time she was sueing Copelands restaurant for their sign.
It was a neon sign that she complained kept her up at nights. She lived across the street from the restaurant and had problems with Copelands bright sign keeping her up. So she sued.
It was the rage of New Orleans. Anne Rice sueing one of the cities leading restrauntiers.
Needless to say, she lost the suit. What happened next was cruel. Copelands built a bigger sign with brighter lights to antagonize Ms. Rice. The parties were never the same after that.
Just a bit of local history I thought everyone would enjoy.

I went to one of those parties and except for meeting her it was pretty boring even though some band was there, Guns and Roses, Love and Rockets or something. They weren't playing just hanging out.

I didn't wear black like everyone else. I wore white and silver. It was sequined, cut down to there and up to here, Anne Rice stopped the line of well wishers, to tell me how much she loved it. *grins*

In my opinion a vampire would become bored with wearing black. How freaking passe is that? They don't have to be sheep. Indeed I see them as stubbornly individual.

Recently I read a book that had Vampires descending from or intertwined with snakes. That was a difficult concept for me to get my head around. I have
an aversion to snakes and don't see vampires that way at all.

I have also heard the Caine thing. He wasn't really the only or first vampire though. That was Lilith, Adam's first wife. He didn't like it when she insisted on being "on top" so she was cast out and damned. God made then made Adam a subservient wife, Eve.

Lilith was it is intimated was/is some sort of cross between demon and Vampire but she helped make Caine into the "first" generation of vampires. He "made" all the second generation. I guess Lilith was done with such creatures after that or maybe there are some we have not been informed of?

Fury

 

[LadyJeanne]

I have also heard the Caine thing. He wasn't really the only or first vampire though. That was Lilith, Adam's first wife. He didn't like it when she insisted on being "on top" so she was cast out and damned. God made then made Adam a subservient wife, Eve.

Lilith was it is intimated was/is some sort of cross between demon and Vampire but she helped make Caine into the "first" generation of vampires. He "made" all the second generation. I guess Lilith was done with such creatures after that or maybe there are some we have not been informed of?

Fury

Yeah, the whole Lilith thing is really confusing to me. Genesis mentions Adam and Eve, but doesn't mention Lilith. The idea of Lilith as the first woman before Eve comes up much later. The only reference to "lilith" in the Bible is Isaiah: it's a description of desolation, jackals and ravens among nettles and briers, etc.: "Goat demons shall greet each other; there too the lilith will repose." I think lilith was a term for demon, back in the day.

So yeah, I'm not sure where the 'God created woman out of dust to keep lonely Adam company, and he wanted to control her, but she said she was made the same way he was, so neener, neener. Something about leaving Eden with three angels chasing her; she comes back and vows to kill babies. I dunno. Sounds like a far-fetched legend created to explain infant mortality. But it's not in the Bible, so it could have been a Lit author that made it up.

Gotta love legends.

 

[FurryFury]

Yeah, the whole Lilith thing is really confusing to me. Genesis mentions Adam and Eve, but doesn't mention Lilith. The idea of Lilith as the first woman before Eve comes up much later. The only reference to "lilith" in the Bible is Isaiah: it's a description of desolation, jackals and ravens among nettles and briers, etc.: "Goat demons shall greet each other; there too the lilith will repose." I think lilith was a term for demon, back in the day.

So yeah, I'm not sure where the 'God created woman out of dust to keep lonely Adam company, and he wanted to control her, but she said she was made the same way he was, so neener, neener. Something about leaving Eden with three angels chasing her; she comes back and vows to kill babies. I dunno. Sounds like a far-fetched legend created to explain infant mortality. But it's not in the Bible, so it could have been a Lit author that made it up.

Gotta love legends.

It's not really in the bible it is White Wolf cannon though. I play loads of White Wolf games and found it amusing. It's in their version of The Book of Nod.

Fury

 

[rgraham666]

It's not really in the bible it is White Wolf cannon though. I play loads of White Wolf games and found it amusing. It's in their version of The Book of Nod.

Fury

Vampire: The Masquerade is the background I mentioned a few posts ago.

I like the history and legends of it. I also liked how it explained all the various vampire myths while still allowing them to be varied individuals.

The central character in my Halloween story started as a V:TM character, oh so many moons ago.

 

[FurryFury]

Vampire: The Masquerade is the background I mentioned a few posts ago.

I like the history and legends of it. I also liked how it explained all the various vampire myths while still allowing them to be varied individuals.

The central character in my Halloween story started as a V:TM character, oh so many moons ago.

Yes, I thought it was what you were refering too. I love writing from the perspective of a White Wolf character that I have role played and whose skin I have lived in well and hard.

*sighs*

Fury