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Anti-Obama hysteria: From the GB to the Republican mainstream

I see more anti palin and mccain posts here than anything. They are all bogus blog and stupid posts also.
No valid links and such.
 
Ham Murabi said:
Here's the deal about the anger directed at the media:
There has been no serious look into Ayers past and his link to Obama. Similarly, Obama has been able to explain away his relationship with Rev. Wright.
Obama's half-brother lives in a hut and survives on $1 a month. That's not news.
No serious straight news or analysis (AP) regarding the bail out. What we get is fleeting mentions of mortgage securities. And Barney Frank is getting a free ride from the AP, too, as is Bill Clinton.
I'm not here to change anyone's mind, and in fact I don't like McCain and don't think he'd be much of a president.
But there is a lot of anger at the mainstream media, and it's justified.
Palin can bring up Ayers all she wants, but all she'll get in response is an analysis of whether it's a good strategy, not a look at Obama's actual ties with Ayers. That's already been "covered" by Obama's explanation that there are no ties.
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I always thought that Fox's slavish adherence to the Republican line was bad for democracy, and it was.

But Fox was just one station. Now you've got the majority of the mainstream media blatantly rooting for Obama. That's just downright fucking dangerous.

Looking at those quotes from formerly respectable papers like the Washington Post it's clear just how Pravda the mainstream media has become. There's not a lot of news, but a whole bunch of innuendo, unsubstantiated accusation and crass generalisation.

No wonder there's hostility to the media elite. It's pretty clear that they are hell bent on hijacking this election.
 
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Ham Murabi said:
Here's the deal about the anger directed at the media:
There has been no serious look into Ayers past and his link to Obama.
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How much money do you think that Clinton and McCain have sunk into digging up dirt on Ayers/Obama? If there was anything to that story do you think that they would leave it up to the "media" to report on it?

They're running for the most powerful job in the world, spending millions of dollars and the fate of the world (in their opinions) is on the line.

The most that they've come up with is that Ayers and Obama worked on a charity together. And that the retiring Senator from Illinois that gave her support to Obama did so at a party at Ayers' house.

This late in the game they’re pressing on innuendo and tenuous associations from 10 years ago. If there was something there they would have released it already.
 
Apricot House said:
How much money do you think that Clinton and McCain have sunk into digging up dirt on Ayers/Obama? If there was anything to that story do you think that they would leave it up to the "media" to report on it?

They're running for the most powerful job in the world, spending millions of dollars and the fate of the world (in their opinions) is on the line.

The most that they've come up with is that Ayers and Obama worked on a charity together. And that the retiring Senator from Illinois that gave her support to Obama did so at a party at Ayers' house.

This late in the game they’re pressing on innuendo and tenuous associations from 10 years ago. If there was something there they would have released it already.
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After 4 years with this moniker, do you keep yer password written down in a notebook or something? Way to make a 10th post!!
 
Wrong Element said:
I forgot this one: http://http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4902470.ece


...Frustration at falling behind Mr Obama in opinion polls has begun to boil into anger at Republican rallies with Mr McCain and Sarah Palin.

Events this week have been marked by ugly outbursts from crowds. In Clearwater, Florida, shouts of “kill him!” could be heard amid a chorus of boos when Mrs Palin attacked the Democratic nominee over his links with 1960s radical, Bill Ayers.

Journalists were reported to have been taunted with obscenities or racial insults from members of audience when Mrs Palin blamed the “mainstream media” for what she described as her “less-than-successful” - and much-parodied - television interviews.

At a rally on Monday in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Mr McCain asked: “Who is the real Barack Obama?” A man in crowd screamed back the reply: “Terrorist!”

The Republican nominee and his running mate cannot be blamed for such incidents. But their campaign is increasingly playing to the fears some voters harbour about the multi-ethnic background of Mr Obama - or paint him as a typical “Chicago politician” with ties to corrupt and dangerous individuals. ..
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Yet the GB's racist Bush/McCain apologists can't understand why some of us are angry. We're just irrational. :rolleyes:
 
I'm glad to see this thread on the GB because it was the start of this - before we started hearing of shouts of "terrorist!" and "kill him!" from crowds that made me create my post about the fundamentals of our country being in jeopardy. Moreover, the sherriff who introduced Palin intentionally and spitefully shouted out Barack Hussein Obama.

Rudy Giuliani, although I do not support or condone much of what he says, in 2006 was giving a political speech and someone in the crowd shouted "democrats are terrorists!" Rudy Giuliani stopped the speech and said - hold on now and explained that neither democrats nor republicans support terrorists. He stepped up to the plate and said not here, not this rhetoric, that's not what I believe in. And, as much as people want to talk about how Giuliani-speak is a noun, a verb, and 9/11, Giuliani does know a great deal about what it's like to have the place you govern attacked by foreign terrorists.

The rhetoric by Palin and McCain is multi-faceted in the message they want to convey. It is not too explicit - but it's pretty explicit. It tries to paint Obama as some kind of "other" - completely different from you or me. What "other" is that? I mean - it's not just because he's a democrat. It's because: (1) he's half African-American; (2) his name happens to sound different - i.e. could sound Arabic (although I believe Barack is Hebrew). And to say that Obama "pals around with terrorists" and to have a Pennsylvania GOP operative claim that he is a terrorists best friend, combined with the distortions that Obama is debasing our troops by saying they are doing nothing but kill civilians and he is "dishonorable" and "dangerous" - does elicit some pretty strong emotions.

I don't know if there is a line in politics anymore to say that someone has crossed it. But, in my opinion, when one of your supporters in a crowd where you are speaking and trying to rally - gets so "rallied" they could yell these things - maybe you should call a time out to do some straight talking.

I mean if you can suspend your campaign, couldn't you suspend your speech?

McCain has disgraced and shamed himself in this campaign. Country first? Does racial harmony promote country first or does racial division promote country first? Does fear-mongering and hate-mongering regarding ethnic groups and ties to America promote country first? Does misstating your opponents record and statements regarding a war that our nation's troops are fighting as McCain put country first? Does saying your fellow Senator who has inspired so many "pals around with terrorists" put country first? Does bringing up Wright when you've said yourself that you know Obama doesn't believe the same way put country first?

John McCain has put country last in this campaign and his campaign first.

It's easy to call your opponent out for something you see in yourself. John McCain has said that Obama would rather lose a war to win an election. John McCain would sacrifice his own integrity as well as the well-being of this nation for win this election.

The man who has said repeatedly that negative campaigning is wrong, that when you go negative it's because you have nothing to say - has 100% of his ad buys recently reported to be negative. And, is using the stump to incite nothing but hate and fear.

I hope Barack Obama comes out tonight and uses a theme of hope - the audacity of hope.

Peggy Noonan - a die hard conservative - said something very appropriate yesterday. She was thinking of the financial crisis and the wars and heard the attacks on the stump by McCain/Palin. Noonan said "they're not big enough for this moment."

It is sad when a nation's hero has acted like such a little little man.
 
Sorry, Rob. I don't think there is anyone here tonight with handicapped children you can make fun of. Remember when you did that?

I do.
 
John King on CNN tonight - who has been somewhat slanting towards McCain in his commentary in my opinion - just said tonight - the voters don't give a damn about all of this Ayers stuff. He used the word damn. It was as if the numbers from the debate gave the MSM the leverage they needed to say these issues have already been debated months ago in the democratic primary and the connections are tenuous at best.
 
lavender said:
John King on CNN tonight - who has been somewhat slanting towards McCain in his commentary in my opinion - just said tonight - the voters don't give a damn about all of this Ayers stuff. He used the word damn. It was as if the numbers from the debate gave the MSM the leverage they needed to say these issues have already been debated months ago in the democratic primary and the connections are tenuous at best.
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It might be a little harder to keep the zanies fired up after Grandpa got so thoroughly trounced tonight. We might move from Denial and Anger straight through to Acceptance.
 
Wrong Element said:
As things get worse for the McCain/Palin ticket, the rhetoric from the stump is getting more heated, as is the reaction from the crowds they're drawing. Gosh, who wouldn't be honored to have supporters like these:


...Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy..."

...Palin, speaking to a sea of "Palin Power" and "Sarahcuda" T-shirts, tried to link Obama to the 1960s Weather Underground. "One of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," she said. ("Boooo!" said the crowd.) "And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' " she continued. ("Boooo!" the crowd repeated.)
"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935.html


..."[Obama] said, too, that our troops in Afghanistan are 'air raiding villages and killing civilians,'" Palin said, mischaracterizing a 2007 remark by Obama. "I hope Americans know that is not what our brave men and women in uniform are doing in Afghanistan. The U.S. military is fighting terrorism and protecting us and protecting our freedom."

Shortly afterward, a male member of the crowd in Jacksonville, Florida, yelled "treason!" loudly enough to be picked up by television microphones...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/obama-hatred-on-display-a_n_132572.html


John McCain's campaign has denounced and rejected a racially charged, anti-Barack Obama newspaper column written by one of the Republican campaign's organizers in Virginia,and has removed the author-activist from his post as a member of the candidate's statewide leadership team.

The column by Bobby May appeared in a southwestern Virginia newspaper,The Voice, and drew attention after it was cited in a Sunday Los Angeles Times report about how voters in that mostly white region were reacting to potentially electing the country's first black president.

May, who in July was named his county's Republican representative on the McCain statewide campaign team, offered a spoof of Obama's platfrom and plans in his recent column.

Examples: Obama would hire the rapper Ludacris (a prominent supporter) to paint the White House black. And the Democrat's administration would divert more foreign aid to Africa so "the Obama family there can skim enough to allow them to free their goats and live the American Dream."

May also joked that Obama would replace the 50 stars on the U.S. flag "with a star and crescent logo," an Islamic symbol, and that his policy on drugs would be to "raise taxes to pay for Obama's inner-city political base..."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/john-mccain-bac.html


When your audiences begin throwing around words like treason and terrorist at your rallies, you might take that as a sign that you need to consider toning it down. It would only take one lunatic to destroy the Republican brand name forevermore, and anyone who doesn't think that's possible is giving the extreme right too much credit for sanity.
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That point was passed a long time ago. There is no going back.
 
lavender said:
John King on CNN tonight - who has been somewhat slanting towards McCain in his commentary in my opinion - just said tonight - the voters don't give a damn about all of this Ayers stuff. He used the word damn. It was as if the numbers from the debate gave the MSM the leverage they needed to say these issues have already been debated months ago in the democratic primary and the connections are tenuous at best.
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What did you think of this, Lav? You too, WE.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/that-one-mccain-calls-oba_n_132802.html
 
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