Anyone here a Kajira?

Etoile said:
Here are a couple of the really silly ones, IMHO:

We have had thread after thread about grammar and capitalization here! The general consensus seems to be that most of us dislike "O/our" and "W/we" stuff, and many of us won't capitalize every dominant's name just because they're dominant. (Putting those two together, many of us also dislike the use of "My" by dominants, though some of us do use it.) But everybody pretty much universally detests the third person crap. In fact I think I've only ever seen it in jest on here. Here is an example of a good way to get yourself quickly rebuked on Lit:
"this girl would like to ask You all a question, do You like it when Your subs talk like this? because this girl's Master has said that she must do it because those are rules for kajira, even though W/we think it is a silly idea."

The only thing I can think of that isn't a weapon is a cotton ball. Better levitate, girls!

Ok, so if kajiras cook for their Almighty Masters, but they can't touch "weapons," does that mean that Goreans eat all their food whole, since they can't use knives? :confused: Matter of fact, they can't cook the food, either, since banging someone over the head with an iron skillet is a Southern tradition.

Well, hell, I'd have a stick up my ass, too, if I had to eat raw steak-and-'taters on Saturday nights.
 
Etoile said:
Here are a couple of the really silly ones, IMHO:

We have had thread after thread about grammar and capitalization here! The general consensus seems to be that most of us dislike "O/our" and "W/we" stuff, and many of us won't capitalize every dominant's name just because they're dominant. (Putting those two together, many of us also dislike the use of "My" by dominants, though some of us do use it.) But everybody pretty much universally detests the third person crap. In fact I think I've only ever seen it in jest on here. Here is an example of a good way to get yourself quickly rebuked on Lit:
"this girl would like to ask You all a question, do You like it when Your subs talk like this? because this girl's Master has said that she must do it because those are rules for kajira, even though W/we think it is a silly idea."

The only thing I can think of that isn't a weapon is a cotton ball. Better levitate, girls!

While I agree with the whole cap thing, that drives me nuts, there are places where I do enjoy the thrid person.

I don't speak thrid person on forums, it's anoying and not every one can relate to it. I have enjoyed speaking it with partners tho. There is something about it that makes me feel small, fragile I guess, not sure if that makes since. I however tend to perfer to use "his" or "yours" rather than "this girl" puting even more infasis on his ownership of me, tho I have used "this slave" before but it was a rare occation.

The weapon thing isn't a black or white issue. I mean free men and women don't work the kitchens in the book, and I'd like to see a slave try to rip a piece of fresh meat with her bare hands. There are exceptions to that rule, as there are most rules anywhere. Infact, one of the kajira that I mentioned before has been trained to use many weapons, it pleases her master that she has this knowledge and she enjoys it. When they are at the gor fest they attend, she is not permitted blades on her, but if her master hands her one she kisses it and then is permited to use it in what ever way she must.

*shrug* but most of the "rules" you find online about the gorean lifestyle just aply to online situations. That's why when I got curious about it, I started seeking out the books, and then talked about things with these friends. Online gorean would almost solely be fantasy, I would think.
 
You know, I am kind of curious about the Gor books. I assume the library won't have them, I wonder if they can be obtained cheaply? I just figure I should know more of that which I deride.
 
Etoile said:
You know, I am kind of curious about the Gor books. I assume the library won't have them, I wonder if they can be obtained cheaply? I just figure I should know more of that which I deride.

Ebay sweetie :)

some are cheaper than others, obviously. The one I've heard is a "must read" is "dancer of Gor" but that one is hard to get ahold of and when you do find it you're looking between $25-$50.

But you can find so good bundle deals. The most I've ever paid was $20 with shipping and that was for 4 books. I figure $8 a book including shipping is my limit.

If you are serious about looking for them, I would sujest "Nomads of Gor" and "Kajira of Gor" as good reads. Nomads is the first one I read, and pretty early in the seriese (2nd or 3rd I think). Both of these are pretty easy to come by and cheaply and they are often in those bundles.

I have heard that you can find them in used book stores, but I've never been able to. I was also told that it's cheaper that way, but I figure with gas prices it figures about the same as shipping and the books are usually only a dollar or two before shipping so I'm not really saving money by spending the day on a book hunt.
 
Etoile said:
You know, I am kind of curious about the Gor books. I assume the library won't have them, I wonder if they can be obtained cheaply? I just figure I should know more of that which I deride.

Not on amazon. The used are as much as the new. There is a huge market on ebay as well.
 
Etoile said:
You know, I am kind of curious about the Gor books. I assume the library won't have them, I wonder if they can be obtained cheaply? I just figure I should know more of that which I deride.

Fans will quote long passages online.

Norman himself basically said he was doing it as a kind of challenge to himself, much the way Pauline Reage was challenged to write O, kind of. The majority of one-handed reading for the hetero pervert was all FemDom at the time, or Victorian - there really wasn't much story or inspiration for the Dominant male, he thought. So he decided to make one.

I think that's pretty cool. I don't think he had any idea remotely what would happen with it. I'm also not entirely sure that he espoused the philosophy of the books an iota as much as his fans, sometimes I think the "this is cool kitsch" feeling seeps around at the edges.
 
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Yikes! I just looked on eBay. I had no idea they would be so expensive. Maybe I will give up on reading them myself.

A question though - how important is it to start with book #1? Does it matter?
 
Etoile said:
Yikes! I just looked on eBay. I had no idea they would be so expensive. Maybe I will give up on reading them myself.

A question though - how important is it to start with book #1? Does it matter?

I haven't read the first one. I have 8 of them, tho which numbers they are I don't remember off the top of my head.

There were a few passages in Nomads that refured to the first book, but nothing that made me feel lost because I hadn't read it.
 
I really think you dont need to be Kajira and be owned by a Gor SDS, but thats just my opinion.

You just started discovering what BDSM is all about, what D/s relationships are all about. Give it a time girlie *hugs*. I know you tryin to get it all at once now when you finaly start getting what you needed for so long.

I am sad for what you have go thro since you was very lil, but its gone now. Be who you are and enjoy what you have. Do not try to be someone else, Kajira in this case, just cuz of your desperate need to fit somewhere no matter what it takes.

I dunno much about Gor/Kajira relationships tbh, just have read what you posted about it. My opinion why you so into it is cuz u think it needs more devotion to be Kajira than be a sub or a slave, but thats not true really :)

If you give it a time you will find out how special and deep can Dom/sub, Dom/slave, Daddy/little girl relationship's be. It depeneds just on you and your Dom really. Your Dom is the one who make the rules. Talk to him. Tell him all about your desires and needs. He needs to know so he could take a good care of you and keep you satisfied.

If you feel like D/s relationship miss something u need or crave for theres nuthing easier than confess that to your Dom and talk about it. As i said, its HIM who make the rules, but its up to YOU to confess him all you need, crave for and expect from this reltionship with him. Thats things you and him need to talk about.

Before he can become what you want/need him to be to you he have to know you COMPLETLY. It will take a while yes, but if you are patient it will be worth it, trust me! :rose:

I think you have very deep need to be owned, to be his property as you said, but what you dunno is that you don't need a Gor to get all of that *smiles*. Trust me i deffo am my Dom's property. D/s realtionship is 100% able to provide you all u have confess you need and crave for, i am sure about it.

I am my Dom's slave and i am getting everything i need from our relationship. Including the pain i need, firm hand over me to keep me in line, trust, love, care, the feeling i really belong to someone finaly cuz i am his property (i so understand you with this one *hugs*), simply my needs are met, same as his.

I'ts about love, sharing, confessing, understanding, and patience. I am in this Dom/slave realtionship just for a few months now, but i have learn alot and i am getting alot.

When i find out i am into BDSM i was just eager and impatient just as you are right now. I wanted know everything "NOW" *smiles* and in many wayz i am still like that. I still have the tendency to know how much deeper this can go, how much farther my Dom can take me, how much more pain can i take before i really give up. I am too prode to use the safe word, somehow i think you are the same. Well its not maybe about being prode as being so possested by the need to satisfy him what ever it takes. State of mind where i dont care of my own feelings and emotions. I would just do it, anything. I just have too, its something i dunno explain but i am sure you understand. I need to please my Dom no matter what. Being the BEST for him, thats the feeling. Desperate need to give him the best outta me no matter what it takes, no matter how bad it hurts and how much tears i might shed while giving him what he needs. I am gona take it just cuz i love him so much.

I know thats what you need. You need to SHOW him how deeply and blindly you are willing to submit to him, to his will. You need to show him the devotion you have for him. Pure and truly need to give yaself to him, all of you. Give yaslef to him over and over again and the need still burning in you and you still feel you can give him so much more if he will be as dominant as possible to you. You need it, you crave for it. All the dominance he can provide, it feeds your soul and make you hunger for more at the same time.

You and your Dom are very new in this, i am new as well but i am in realtionship with very experienced Dom whats plus for me, but you and your Dom will learn how to work out things out, i am sure you will *smiles*

I loved your MSN name yesterday, so happy you was. I understand that feeling very well cuz since i am owned i feel the same joy. I was checking your profile on the site you showed me yesterday and the pic you use as your MSN pic is just awesome. The look on your face, so innocent and needy to be cared for. The look on your face told me so much about you. Much more than your words, eventho you are very very good with sharing yaself, your Dom will loves that bigtime. The look on your face says so much about ya. It reveal your pain and sadness, the desperate need to be owned and cared for constantly, your devotion and hunger for all the things you just learning about. The pic told me so much about you! If i was there i would give you one big warm hug and cheer you up.

You are very sensitive woman. Fragile more than the others eventho you hiding it well. You are easy to get hurt and yet so strong in what you need and can give to your Dom wich you love desperately. You are special, you really are, never doub it!! :rose:

You will be a wonderful sub/slave/Kajira (or whatever you wish) one day, i am sure you will. In many ways you already are, you just need a good quidance, a good leader to folow. I know you want to folow, you just need it. I hope your Dom will take a good care of you, you deffo need it. {{{{HUGS}}}}}

I wish you the best on your way of discovering your submissive side!! :rose:

Kate
 
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